Two more airliners touch, Boston Logan, 11/25

Again?? I’m waiting for the day when this happens and someone keys the mic and says ‘tag, you’re it’
 
In the terminal area, wing walkers should have been in use.

Although that is no guarantee of safety. The average ramper at a big airport is barely making above minimum wage to do an outside labor job, and the hiring pool reflects it. I was recently travelling through a big hub and was watching the ground crews. One wing walker was walking 30 feet in front of the wing, not even watching the wing, all the while giving the ok signal to the tug driver. That wing could have been clipping every light pole and aircraft along the way, and the walker would not have noticed a thing. Just another example of doing a job without accomplishing anything.

Another thing I saw on that same trip, a suitcase laying on the ramp in the vehicle roadway. Obviously fell off a cart. I watched at least a dozen tugs and service vehicles drive around that bag without stopping. Finally our wing walker from above walked over to the bag. I was thinking oh good, someone will take care of it. Nope, just nudged it out of the roadway and left it. Not my job.
 
midwestpa24 said:
In the terminal area, wing walkers should have been in use.

Although that is no guarantee of safety. The average ramper at a big airport is barely making above minimum wage to do an outside labor job, and the hiring pool reflects it.
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Yeah Im full blown accelerationist these days. Even if the perennial apologists want to argue these incidents are not worker precarity-causal, let these firms indulge in FAFO. It has been my experience that station wagon justice (collective punishment/moral hazard, for those who dont get the reference of growing up in the back of a station wagon) seems to be the only language the economically comfortable cohort of americans understand.

People will fight me a all day about it, but I still contend Colgan 3407 was the ultimate manifestation of FAFO in this context.
 
midwestpa24 said:
In the terminal area, wing walkers should have been in use.
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I watched the winglet of a plane I was on slice into the horizontal stabilizer of the plane at the next gate during pushback, and the wing walker was directly underneath!
 
Parking sensors in the wing and tail?
I'll start the STC paperwork.
 
An I could care attitude seems to be prevalent amongst the ground crews. In the old days occasionally a tug would run into an aircraft and it became a big thing. Now airplanes hitting each other seems to be a common occurrence
 
Front and rear sensors, and or cameras on each wingtip, wires and an alarm in the cockpit couldn't weigh more than 5 gallons of fuel. Seems like a no brainer.
 
david.h said:
Front and rear sensors, and or cameras on each wingtip, wires and an alarm in the cockpit couldn't weigh more than 5 gallons of fuel. Seems like a no brainer.
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Given a post in another thread this week talking about the total savings of eliminating 75 lbs of paper charts on each flight, there are actually many brains involved in any such decision.
 
If the guy who signed for the jet was fiscally responsible for damages to the jet, I bet I wouldn’t take too long for these kind of shenanigans to stop.
 
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