Toilets on small twins...

jfrye01

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I know this has been discussed here before, but I was talking to some friends who mentioned adding toilets to a 340 and Duke. My question is, where the hell do they go? I've been on both aircraft and don't recall there being much room...do they come at the expense of a passenger seat? Confused...lol
 
Long story short, go before the trip like mom and dad used to tell you, and if you're on legs that long just land, even on a turboprop, no one wants to hear and smell a grown man take care of business on a toilet that even a child would even consider small.
 
Yes. The 421 has a belted, curtained, 'potty seat'. Outside of an STC'd install on something that didn't have one, you need to make room for a Porta Potty that won't be available for T/O and landing.
 
James331 said:
Long story short, go before the trip like mom and dad used to tell you, and if you're on legs that long just land, even on a turboprop, no one wants to hear and smell a grown man take care of business on a toilet that even a child would even consider small.
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Not that I don't agree with you, but I was just curious how one would add one...doesn't seem like there's room.
 
Well if you're at 25,000ft and you're touching cotton then you had better have a plastic bag or a potty seat. I'd rather have it contained in a bag or toilet then my own underwear.
 
Flying at 25,000' in the luxury of a pressurized cabin class twin and a fat guy dropping a chuffer in a receptacle the size of a gallon bucket just don't go together.
 
I've flown thousand plus nm legs well into the FLs, never been a issue. :dunno:
 
You've not lived till you've taken an emergency **** in flight bag.
 
All piston twins with toilets effectively have a bucket. I've never seen one in a 340, but some people have put camping toilets in them (which is just a bucket really). It can be behind the 3rd row.

The Duke I've seen a picture of with a toilet in the seat behind the pilot. So everyone can watch you do your business. What idiot at Beechcraft came up with that, I don't know.

We used the relief tube in the Navajo/Cheyenne all the time on dead legs. It's nice, allows you to stay hydrated while not having to deal with the refilled Gatorade bottles.

The Gatorade bottles are my normal SOP when solo in the 310.
 
3393RP said:
Flying at 25,000' in the luxury of a pressurized cabin class twin and a fat guy dropping a chuffer in a receptacle the size of a gallon bucket just don't go together.
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True....but when the only male on the flight is the pilot and the pax are female family members.....that potty is not a bad feature.
 
Fearless Tower said:
True....but when the only male on the flight is the pilot and the pax are female family members.....that potty is not a bad feature.
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Yep. I fully expect to need a toilet option in the future with two daughters.
 
One FBO I flew for had three 421's, all with potties. I plead guilty to not providing instruction in their use. On one trip, after I made (fortunately), a greaser landing, I went back into the cabin and found two plastic cups full of urine sitting on the fold-down tables.

Bob Gardner
 
Camping toilets work well for the ladies. Hopefully they have the good sense to not defecate because female shyte smells (almost) as bad as male shyte. Why some people feel the need to ease out a loaf during a flight of only a couple of hours is beyond me... A flight of 8-10 hours, I get that, but for small twins what are we talking about for legs? 2-4 hours max? Tell your passengers to have a crap back at the FBO before getting on the plane!

All the talk about emergency turdbags does remind me of an early conversation I had with my sons when on a trip not with my wife and daughter :D

Me: Okay boys, it's just us guys so if you need to use the bathroom let me know. We're going to try make the trip in one shot.

Them: Okay Dad.

One of them (later): Dad, I need to go.

Me: Okay take this gatorade bottle. Make sure you put your nozzle inside. Don't spill! Don't overfill! I have another one too. Close the lid when done.

One of them: No, Dad, I need a bag.

Me (dumb): Why?

One of them: Number 2...

Me: HELL NO! Hold it in we're landing in 20...

:lol: I'm raising savages, I tell you!
 
James331 said:
I've flown thousand plus nm legs well into the FLs, never been a issue. :dunno:
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Ok, rookie :), let me tell ya how it is. Someday, you're gonna get a prescription for something that suddenly (when you least expect) triggers the "gotta go NOW!" response. It ain't nothin' to laugh at, on the freeway or in the air. Give 'em the benefit of the doubt.

dtuuri
 
That gel stuff that turns urine into jello is VERY handy when using a "bucket" type toilet.
 
I haven't had to punch a grumpy on an airplane yet. I hope to keep the streak alive!
 
I have had an infant filling diapers.... Man, that was _bad_!
 
You'll look cool sitting on the potty in the duke.
 
Heh. I am enjoying the variety of these euphemisms. It definitely makes up for the disgust the thread generated otherwise.

This duke doesn't show the potty seat well (and I'm not sure if it's even installed in this pic -- usually there's a square "hot box" region under the cushion), but you can see the track in the headliner for the so-called "privacy curtain"

http://www.aso.com/listings/spec/ViewAd.aspx?id=140171

While nobody is gonna see your junk, that's an unimaginably uncomfortable situation to need to be in, and "privacy" is stretching the thing too far IMO.

The flight bag stories are horrifying. :D You fools aren't living right.
 
sixpacker said:
Camping toilets work well for the ladies. Hopefully they have the good sense to not defecate because female shyte smells (almost) as bad as male shyte. Why some people feel the need to ease out a loaf during a flight of only a couple of hours is beyond me... A flight of 8-10 hours, I get that, but for small twins what are we talking about for legs? 2-4 hours max? Tell your passengers to have a crap back at the FBO before getting on the plane!

All the talk about emergency turdbags does remind me of an early conversation I had with my sons when on a trip not with my wife and daughter :D

Me: Okay boys, it's just us guys so if you need to use the bathroom let me know. We're going to try make the trip in one shot.

Them: Okay Dad.

One of them (later): Dad, I need to go.

Me: Okay take this gatorade bottle. Make sure you put your nozzle inside. Don't spill! Don't overfill! I have another one too. Close the lid when done.

One of them: No, Dad, I need a bag.

Me (dumb): Why?

One of them: Number 2...

Me: HELL NO! Hold it in we're landing in 20...

:lol: I'm raising savages, I tell you!
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Exactly!
 
These are the kinds of things they should have on the FAA writtens,

How many gallon ziplock and kitchen trash bags should you carry in case of "issues" from either end. Answer: more than zero.

How many Gatorade bottles for a 900nm flight in a 172, westbound. Answer: more than you think you'll need.

What do you do if your level 8000' AGL and you have 48 secs till a turtle head pops out and your out of kitchen bags? Answer: use a flight bag.

Useful stuff. Not how to track an NDB and $&@;$ they ask about now.
 
This thread is brilliant!

My 8 year old daughter decided she had to pee about half-way up the initial climbout into a 2 hour flight. Dear old dad tells her, "Welp, you're going to have to hold it now!".

After about 45 minutes the plane was literally shaking like we hit moderate turbulence... No, it was just a severe case of the peepee dance. Joking around I told her that she's going to have to use her 2 year old brother's diapers. Mom decides that was actually a pretty good idea and gives her one. She was not interested in the diaper, but eventually she had to go so bad she broke down and used it.

We now carry some spare diapers on every flight! lol... Oh, and she made us promise that it's our family secret! Ha!
 
Ted DuPuis said:
The Duke I've seen a picture of with a toilet in the seat behind the pilot. So everyone can watch you do your business. What idiot at Beechcraft came up with that, I don't know.
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Not sure, but I think he went on to design the bathrooms for the Sochi Olympics.

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Fearless Tower said:
True....but when the only male on the flight is the pilot and the pax are female family members.....that potty is not a bad feature.
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I agree with that. My boat has a porcelain flush toilet and a holding tank, which I always tell the females it's OK to pee in. My mistake was specifying it's NOT OK to flush a tampon.

After a two hour ordeal of removing the toilet and fishing out the offending object those instructions are now very clear. :mad2:

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I give EVERYONE the toilet/head lecture as we are leaving the dock, if you didn't eat it, it won't flush. You have to fill the bowl with water, THEN flush for "solids", and finally if you stop it up, you clean it out!! :nono:

3393RP said:
I agree with that. My boat has a porcelain flush toilet and a holding tank, which I always tell the females it's OK to pee in. My mistake was specifying it's NOT OK to flush a tampon.

After a two hour ordeal of removing the toilet and fishing out the offending object those instructions are now very clear. :mad2:

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I knew I married the right gal when she changed our then 10-month-old's #2-filled diaper at 7,500', somewhere near the border of California and Oregon, in the back of our 182. It was then triple-bagged, though I was mighty tempted to do my first aerial drop.

I should probably give ground instruction to my boys (now 6 & 8) on the proper use of a 32-oz gatorade bottle.
 
Jeff Oslick said:
I knew I married the right gal when she changed our then 10-month-old's #2-filled diaper at 7,500', somewhere near the border of California and Oregon, in the back of our 182. It was then triple-bagged, though I was mighty tempted to do my first aerial drop.

I should probably give ground instruction to my boys (now 6 & 8) on the proper use of a 32-oz gatorade bottle.
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No longer can you teach them how to use a 32oz Gatorade bottle, they made them 28oz.:(
 
The ones in all the stores around here are 28oz.:dunno: More WalMart shopping advantage I guess, I don't go there so don't notice.
 
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