They rolled the trucks for me tonight

Joshuajayg said:
Now you're starting to sound like Tom-D
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No, say it ain't so! :eek:

I saw Ft Worth on his info and just was wondering where a 16K was in that area, then I remember the old Denver airport was DIA. Tom! Seriously? I'm gonna choot myself if that's the case.
 
mscard88 said:
No, say it ain't so! :eek:

I saw Ft Worth on his info and just was wondering where a 16K was in that area, then I remember the old Denver airport was DIA. Tom! Seriously? I'm gonna choot myself if that's the case.
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I thought the old airport was DEN.
 
I suspect that DIA is short for Denver International Airport (KDEN) in much the same way that OIA is short for Orlando International Airport (KMCO).
 
mscard88 said:
I was thinking DEN w/ a runway that long. Maybe DIA was the old Denver airport now that I think about it. Thanks.
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Stapleton was also KDEN. It was closed at the same time DIA opened.

It's Denver International Airport. During construction, that set of initials was essential to separate it from Stapleton, which is some distance away. And it stuck.

Just like no one aside from pilots calls Sky Harbor "PHX" or Burbank "BUR."
 
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So, just not the official identifier then? Something the locals use or those in the know?
 
Got it, thanks folks. I was wondering why "DIA" didn't show up on Airnav.
 
I thought that the identifier of the new airport was DIA for a while after it opened.
 
Stapleton was KDEN and they moved the KDEN 4 letter id to Denver International Airport (DIA) so Stapleton would NOT have an id as they wanted to keep it CLOSED!! (the runways were still there for quite a while). It worked, Stapleton is now houses and commercial and shopping centers etc.
 
It is pretty eerie under DIA. All of the original baggage belts and feeders that didnt work when the airport opened are still installed. Unused and pristine but dusty and derelict. Really creepy. Also the illuminati guys were always causing trouble.
 
mscard88 said:
No, say it ain't so! :eek:

I saw Ft Worth on his info and just was wondering where a 16K was in that area, then I remember the old Denver airport was DIA. Tom! Seriously? I'm gonna choot myself if that's the case.
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Haha, I'm sorry but the question seemed so... overly literal.

Now I see you really didn't know and I rescind my comment.
 
Cpt_Kirk said:
Glad to hear you made it.

Regarding the trucks - ATC can, and will, declare for you. I've had it happen to me twice now.
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Funny thing about that……..of all the times I've had a problem, like a legitimate one anyway, I have only "declared" maybe once or twice, and those times were the most dire. We all have some weird hesitation to do it, and I am as guilty as anyone else. The funny part I am referring to is that they do basically the exact same thing, whether you declare or not, in all but the most densely traveled airspace. I tell approach I have ECS problems, or a flight control issue, or whatever else, and it matters not what I say…..they are rolling the trucks and giving me priority handling whether I ask for it or not. Probably not the case at somewhere like LGA or whatever, but most of the country, the telephone game wins. Just something to think about for the newbies out there who are stressing about "should I say it or should I not?".
 
overdrive148 said:
It is pretty eerie under DIA. All of the original baggage belts and feeders that didnt work when the airport opened are still installed. Unused and pristine but dusty and derelict. Really creepy. Also the illuminati guys were always causing trouble.
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The BAE (Bags Are Everywhere) fiasco was just another screw up in the long line of political favors, back door deals and glad handing that sent Señor Pena to Washington and moved KDEN from Stapleton to Denver International Airport.

Rumor has it that Dr. Fujita developed his Fujita scale rating for tornado strength with research performed right about where the Teflon tents main terminal now stands ... (credit where credit is due - I predicted the brother-in-law contract to install those "teepees on the prairie" that was given to the same guy who sold that pig in a poke to the San Diego convention center was going to go down in spectacular disaster at the first snow or hail storm... and I was wrong.)

and let's not even go to the evil demon red-eyed devil bronco standing watch near the entrance ... if there ever was a deserving target for a stinger missile, it would be this million dollar publicly funded monstrosity.
 
James331 said:
It's good you're getting a fresh set of eyes on the problem, but from what you said I wouldn't be tossing the old mechanic under the bus just yet.
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After what we found out today, I will throw TWO mechanics under the bus.
 
Zeldman said:
I hope you took time to thank the responders. I make sure to greet them all individually, if possible, and thank them for coming out and also for their dedication to their job. If it is raining or snowing I have been known to send pizza to the station.

I will also call the tower and thank them, if applicable.

And good job for getting back on the ground safely.
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This is a GREAT idea. I didnt have a chance to thank them, but I will find a way to buy them pizza. They def deserve that.
 
Palmpilot said:
I thought that the identifier of the new airport was DIA for a while after it opened.
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I thought so too. I always joked that the baggage handling system wasn't DIA, it was DOA.

I also always wondered why in the world it takes over 33,000 acres to build an airport.
 
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mscard88 said:
I was thinking DEN w/ a runway that long. Maybe DIA was the old Denver airport now that I think about it. Thanks.
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The old Denver airport was Stapleton. I don't think DIA was ever used more than briefly - it was the identifier for Dixon, WY for a few months and then that got squashed. It is in my log book though.
 
Why 33,000 acres? They need a "no build" zone. What do you do in a no build zone? BUILD!

It IS cool though. They have an igloo and a place for Buffalo to roam...
They also have an "evil stallion". It has a red eye. And it killed it's maker....

Truth is stranger than fiction. Fiction has to be believable!
 
coloradobluesky said:
Why 33,000 acres? They need a "no build" zone. What do you do in a no build zone? BUILD!

It IS cool though. They have an igloo and a place for Buffalo to roam...
They also have an "evil stallion". It has a red eye. And it killed it's maker....

Truth is stranger than fiction. Fiction has to be believable!
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Just look at DFW. When they built it there nothing near it. Now million+ dollar homes are right up to the airport fence complaining about airplane noise.
 
Yeah. quit being a disaster tease @mtuomi and tell us. was there a Wrigley gum wrapper or AL foil involved in your switch fix? or jb weld. jb weld fixes everything.
 
ChemGuy said:
Yeah. quit being a disaster tease @mtuomi and tell us. was there a Wrigley gum wrapper or AL foil involved in your switch fix? or jb weld. jb weld fixes everything.
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So does WD-40.

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Bakersfield? My sincerest apologies. I would have bought you a couple of adult beverages if I knew you were here.

There are no good A&P's on that field, and only one half-ass decent FBO.

Should have ferryied her to MIT..have a great mechanic there and no fire trucks.

PS...they always roll the trucks at BFL...and usually two or three trucks from the local county fire from off-field...there's not a whole lot of excitement here.


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So you had no electrics (no exterior/interior lights?) and no flaps on a night VFR flight, with a broken AI. What did you do to land safely? How did your instrument scan change? Etc... I'd be interested in learning for your experience.
 
UngaWunga said:
So you had no electrics (no exterior/interior lights?) and no flaps on a night VFR flight, with a broken AI. What did you do to land safely? How did your instrument scan change? Etc... I'd be interested in learning for your experience.
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While there are some dark sites not far away, BFL is on the edge of a fairly sizeable city, and there are plenty of lights. The usual disorientation risks are not a factor on landing.

The question I have is why there was BOTH a complete electrical failure AND a vacuum failure. It's not likely that both happen at the same time.
 
Erection mechanism (that sounds pervy) failed on the AI so it was turning and I had good vacuum, it was just rolling around like crazy.
My battery master switch had a broken connection that seemed to overheat and caused intermittent outages (this was fixed 5 hours ago) AND my alternator driveshaft (alternator overhauled 80 hours ago by a "reputable" shop...) snapped due to an old crack that propagated (easy to see on the shaft on the beach marks), so it never was overhauled properly. So in the end I had 3 failures. Maybe someone was trying to tell me something.
 
mtuomi said:
Landing at Bakersfield, CA with 90% of electrics off and a failed AI in the dark (flapless and lightless landing). They sent the trucks out (did not declare) and got escorted to parking. Fun.
I just paid a few hundred to get this problem fixed. My (ex) mechanic is getting a very nasty phone call tomorrow.
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THIS is why I had a light on my headset, a light on a lanyard on my neck and a few others in my bag for night flights... You never know when...
 
Doggtyred said:
THIS is why I had a light on my headset, a light on a lanyard on my neck and a few others in my bag for night flights... You never know when...
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I just carry a patch of matches....a lot cheaper.

;)
 
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Seconded, thirded, whatever on headlamps. Screw the old "holding a flashlight" crap. Headlamps rock.

The devil horse at "DIA" killed its creator, so there's that. Squished. The other day they were working on it with a man lift and it looked like a proctologist visit when I was driving by.

The lawsuit that ostensibly closed Stapleton was noise-based so the 33,000 acres was for two things...

1. Made it seem like nobody would ever complain about noise again.

2. Made sure Peña's family owned land would be purchased at excellent rates via the "minority owned business" with favored tax status.

The guy's listed job these days is managing the family fortune. Go figure. Same dude who got angry with people for calling him anything but Fred before he ran for public office, then magically he was "Federico!" Hahahaha. Such a tool.

The airport owns so much land, they've done oil and gas drilling on it, and the city keeps the profits from the wells.

My office / warehouse sits smack dab in the middle of where the numbers were painted for the old 35R on the north end of Stapleton. (Where the 17L numbers would be.)

The new neighborhood is very young hipster with the moms all walking perfectly groomed dogs in large packs past the office or pushing $2000 strollers with their offspring while wearing their fashion conscious $100 workout jumpsuits.

The kids in that 'hood apparently like 900 square foot apartments for $400,000. That might come with a garage that'll barely fit a Prius, but that's an add on option I think. Haha.

The only good news is if you didn't pack a lunch, they've opened a few good restaurants. Driving over to the Super Target for deli food got old.

Whoever owns the 7-11 franchise in there is making M-O-N-E-Y on the only gas station for miles. Unless you want to drive another mile or two over to all the Commerce City truck stops. LOL. Another mile or two up are the grow houses, and a couple miles past that, the refinery. Or if you go south, the United sim center. It's a very strange neighborhood.
 
I made a NORDO arrival at IAD years ago (before 9/11). I was in the back seat of an Arrow with an instructor and a student in the front seat. The student locked up when the alternator/electrics crumped. The handheld the student had, also had a nearly dead battery and could only receive. Dulles did however identify us via some turns and told us if we wanted to land at Dulles to fly heading 150 (straight towards the runway). As we touched down they said they would roll the equipment. I managed to get the last gasp of the radio battery to tell them we didn't need that. We taxied to the FBO and I called them on the phone and thanked them while the instructor debriefed the student.
 
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