The new Hudson River corridor

This was also our first idea, but then we decided to fly the "Hudson River Exclusion" on the altitude for transient operations, which goes from 1000 to 1299 ft.. I would recommend this for anybody who wants to fly along the Hudson, as it is absolutely stress free and a great altitude for sightseeing.

If it was stress free, there was a LOT of traffic you missed. I'm glad we were in the Bravo at 1500, the controllers were great.

Jason, I heard a lot of the choppers asking for "tour alpha" when climbing away from the lady. They seemed to understand that just fine, but it's not published anywhere for us. They all turned around at the GW, but we also got vectored to the north at that point due to a Yankees game. I'll try to post video later.
 
If it was stress free, there was a LOT of traffic you missed. I'm glad we were in the Bravo at 1500, the controllers were great. [...]

I think that 6 mandatory reporting points over a distance of just about 16 NM provide a pretty good picture of what's going on. When we flew the Hudson (Wednesday, about 11 AM), there were some choppers at around 900 ft., which did their local operations. On the layer for transitional operation we were alone while we were going northbound, on the way south we had a Bonanza about 5 NM behind us.
This is not exactly what I understand under a LOT of traffic. :rolleyes:

OK - we did it on a weekday, in the morning, but we heard from other pilots, who fly along the Hudson regularly, that it is even on the weekends now big deal, especially since the new rules have been established.

Did you watch the (mandatory) FAAsafte.gov online course? There are now 6 mandatory reporting points, local traffic is separated from the transition traffic, on the layer for transient operations one is not allowed to turn, change altitude, do abrupt maneuvers or speed changes. Additionally you have to stay right of the (imagined) Hudson centerline and should not overtake other aircraft.

If one feels more comfortable if a controller has an eye on him, he can of course do so and simply choose the Skyline Route at 1300 ft. or above. :smile:


Cheers,

Oliver
 
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Jason, I heard a lot of the choppers asking for "tour alpha" when climbing away from the lady. They seemed to understand that just fine, but it's not published anywhere for us. They all turned around at the GW, but we also got vectored to the north at that point due to a Yankees game. I'll try to post video later.

Yeah I suppose the new name "skyline" still hasn't caught on yet. We were cleared in the Bravo at 1,500 and then deviated to the west of Yankee stadium into TEB's class Delta to avoid the stadium TFR. It worked out pretty well and once again keeps my track record up -- 0 times have I been denied a Bravo clearance up the Hudson. Even with a Stadium TFR in effect. The controller was able to coordinate a transition through TEB and worked perfectly.
 
Yeah I suppose the new name "skyline" still hasn't caught on yet. We were cleared in the Bravo at 1,500 and then deviated to the west of Yankee stadium into TEB's class Delta to avoid the stadium TFR. It worked out pretty well and once again keeps my track record up -- 0 times have I been denied a Bravo clearance up the Hudson. Even with a Stadium TFR in effect. The controller was able to coordinate a transition through TEB and worked perfectly.

I flew it south from HPN about a montha ago, referred to it as the "skyline", and the controller did not seem confused. That was my first time, so I guess I'm 100% too.
 
Yeah we did it on a nice Sunday afternoon. I'm guessing we had a bit more tourist traffic than Oliver. We went at 1500'. If we had gone a bit higher I think we would have avoided most of the tour choppers who seemed to be topping out around 1500'
 
Yeah I suppose the new name "skyline" still hasn't caught on yet. We were cleared in the Bravo at 1,500 and then deviated to the west of Yankee stadium into TEB's class Delta to avoid the stadium TFR. It worked out pretty well and once again keeps my track record up -- 0 times have I been denied a Bravo clearance up the Hudson. Even with a Stadium TFR in effect. The controller was able to coordinate a transition through TEB and worked perfectly.

That is exactly how it worked for us too.

The FAA materials make it sound like the choppers are going to stay below 1000 MSL, but they don't - They climb up through the 1000-1300 transient layer and get a Bravo clearance. Pretty much every one called in from the statue climbing through 600 and asking for "Tour Alpha." A climbing chopper is exactly how the mid-air happened...
 
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