Ehh, it's like New York, minus the New Yorkers. Xanadu.Full evidence thou hast gone off the deep end, sir...
Agree 100%. And what I'm really referring to is that latter piece: People who don't possess that particular trait aren't going to be welcome anywhere -- regardless of which side of the spectrum they're on and especially when they're at the extreme end of it.
Ehh, it's like New York, minus the New Yorkers. Xanadu.
I notice when people have different political views but unless they are obnoxiously vocal on one side or another I don't really care. I've found that my blue friends find me pretty conservative and my red friend think I'm a liberal. I do agree with you though, Kenny that there are definitely pockets of blue and red depending on the area of the country. That doesn't mean that everyone who lives there feels that way, however.
I was just kidding about New Yorkers. In fact, I've never really been of the impression that they're any more abrasive than anybody else. Louder, maybe, but that's about it.
Yeah?! Well **** YOU!!!
But yeah, outside of the above (which was AWESOMEMost New Yorkers are actually very friendly. We even generally will politely give people directions that aren't incorrect... at least not intentionally.
), that's been my experience. 
Actually, first time ever in New York, I think just coming out of Grand Central Station from NJ, me and some random dude walking in front of me almost got hit by some car while we were crossing the street. He and I both reacted with the same, "HO!" and "WTF" arms in the air gesture. The driver responded with a "GO **** YOURSELF!"
I thought to myself, "That was perfect!"
Try telling anyone within 500 miles of Tulsa that you are celebrating Siva's birthday.
<--- for want of a "teeth chattering" smilie.
Coming down from the PNW for meetings we just laugh at them. We haven't seen 70s in months and it feels great!I have at some questions about this survey. Where did the survey come from? How many people were asked? Were only people who had actually lived in a city allowed to reply or just anyone, visitor or even anyone who had not even every been there?
I can easily go to a city and visit and think I know which ones are more desirable than others to live in but I don't really know until I've lived there. I can tell you which cities I visited that I THINK would be more desirable to live in...but unless I've lived in a very hot, low humidity, for instance, for I would say at least a year, how would I know I could live with that on a regular basis when I'm used to living in a city that has noticeable seasons?
I would venture to guess...only a guess and maybe, possibly slight chance of it being an educated guess... that many people who rated the cities had never even lived there and who knows if they'd even visited?
I think this survey sounds and smells awefully fishy to me.
Live in a city? No thanks. But, I grew up in a college town with a total population of around 25,000, and that was when there were 17,000 students on campus. I much prefer living in a smaller "town" environment (and do).
Now, cities to visit?
1. London. I never run out of things to see or do there. I expect to spend a little time there in August.
Haven't lived there, but spent a month working there in 1978 (October/November time frame). Been back a few times since. Love visiting, but it's a city.
2. Rome. Been there once, should spend a couple days there this July. Hot!
Only been there in the summer. As noted, HOT! And, it's a city. I don't like living in cities.
3. Paris. Visited in 1971, 1992 and twice more in the past 2 years. Interesting, but I think I've seen enough for now. Maybe in a few years again (this time with my wife).
4 visits. Interesting to visit, but, it's a city.
4. Tokyo is a mess, but you can get around with the subways and trains. Osaka was easier.
Again, it's a city. An interesting one, but still...
5. Phoenix? Who are you kidding. As a friend who lives there had his daughter say the first summer they lived there, "Dad, you moved us to he!!". "But it's a dry heat! - So's an oven!"
6 months of the year it's liveable. 6 months of the year, no thanks. That's why some folks I know go there in the winter, and return home for our "summer".
6. Seattle? Rains all the time. Almost as much as it does where I live.
Seattle is a city. And folks there think the uw is a great institution of higher learning. Actually, I think the people there belong in an institution. But, I went to WSU.
7. Portland? Outside of town in the suburbs maybe, but no way downtown.
Noted above. And I lived in Beaverton (with a Portland mailing address) for a bit over a year when I first joined Intel. BTDT, no way will I live in Portland.
8. Sacramento? When Davis or Auburn are available, and much less crowded?
Lived in Davis from 1952 to 1961. Yeah, it's changed. The back fence at our house was the edge of development, not now. Sacramento is a city. Davis still isn't.
9. San Jose? BTDT. Not again. It's a city!
11 1/2 years there. Not again if I can help it. Too many people.
10. Denver. Now, no way downtown, but outside of Denver itself? Sure. The 4 years we spent there weren't at all bad. The climate is great (rare to get below 0, rare to get over 100). Things to do. Lots of sun. Downside - bad roads (pot holes you can lose a small car in),
If I had to move back to the Denver area (and I really don't want to move), there are a number of nice areas outside the city center. Not a bad area to live.
See the pattern? I don't like living in cities, but I'll visit now and then.
I'm as un-city-slicker as one can be on the East coast -- I can't see another house from mine, have two horses, cut my own wood, and shoot clays in my back yard.
They're the ones driving Dodge Ram pickups (usually with a diesel, and not towing anything behidn them) to go buy something at Cabela's as opposed to you liberal hippies who drive Volvos and shop at Whole Foods.
My oh my -- finally....
::Queue swelling symphonic music::
Madison... thy name shall henceforth be ---- Utopia!
Awwwright you wiseacre city-slicker, ease up on Madison!!!
It really is a nice place. The lake is right there,
Downtown is on the isthmus between lakes Mendota and Monona, and then to the southeast there's Wingra, Waubesa, etc... All I know is there's a new Brazilian place I have to try out...!!!
I know plenty of people who really love Madison, but I've never been there. Not once. Been through it, but not to it.Lakes.
Actually, Slappy mentioned cuisine - We have about all the foreign cuisine you could possibly want. I don't know why - Maybe a lot of the foreign students stay and open up restaurants?
Actually, my old boss and his wife eat out for dinner, every single night. They go to a different restaurant, every single night. They have never been to the same restaurant twice!
Bite your tongue! It's not THEEEEAAAAAAAAAT BEEEEAAAAAAD.It'd be like living in a city full of Sarah Palins
Though I do drive a Volvo, I've lusted after a Ram since the "new" ones came out in 1994. I just have no need at all to haul stuff around, and definitely no need to spend the $$$ to gas one up, so until I do have said need, I'll stick with my Volvo (which I love, it's a great car).
I guess that makes me moderate to conservative, right?
I've always liked Chicago but it 1) is too far from the ocean, any ocean and 2) has lots of people with really grating mid-Western accents. Like nails on a chalkboard I tells ya.
And I know, I know, Philly accents.......... But that nasally, "oh my GAAAD. MAAM, you shrank my paJEAMAAs" UUUUUGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH>
It'd be like living in a city full of Sarah Palins
I know plenty of people who really love Madison, but I've never been there. Not once. Been through it, but not to it.
That may have to change.
Best time to come here: First weekend after classes start.
I live near DePaul. For several reasons... But that magical time of year is a big one.Best time to come here: First weekend after classes start.
It's in Wisconsin. What else would you expect?
