Roger!she looks a whole lot better with the pants on... I might have to keep it off in winter
I have that in my list of things to do, along with zillion other manuals to read... there is a whole carton of manuals and log books I inherited with the plane....One thing I haven't done yet is making a searchable electronic copy of the log books. It's hard to find when things were done in 40 years worth of logs. Took me forever to find when my vacuum pump was last changed out.
Roger. My plane is going for annual in June, told my AP I will hang around when he does the annual and do whatever I can to help out. he is onboardFind a good APIA and learn and do all that you can.
Find a good APIA and learn and do all that you can.
All logs should be in google docs after a good OCR scan.
Short term due list on a little notebook in the glove box
Understand that "in the green" doesn't mean chit, and learn what's the norm for your plane.
If you have slick mags, ditch them for bendix when they start to get a little long in the tooth.
Oil is the cheapest MX you can do.
Get a battery tender of some sort.
Nip things in the bud.
Buy your own parts.
Get on the type clubs sites.
Get it balanced (prop) and rigged (airframe).
Don't scratch it
The piper service manual has a detailed list of what should be examined at 50,100,250,500 hours. The 100 hour list is the basis for the annual.Thank much. yes I have Slick mags, I will add to the list of things to get looked at during annual (I am guessing its a part of annual, but will add to my list of things to do anyways.)
I forget...where are you located?anyone got a list of things I need to know? right now I don't know what I don't know ...lol
suggestions for new aircraft owner?
KFARI forget...where are you located?
Thank much. yes I have Slick mags, I will add to the list of things to get looked at during annual (I am guessing its a part of annual, but will add to my list of things to do anyways.)
Roger. Thanks to the previous owner, I have all digital copy of the logs, I will make an excel list to when what was done.... and approx when it's dueThere is nothing wrong with Slick mags. Some people don't like them because it's cheaper to buy a new Slick magneto than the parts to overhaul them.
Check in your logs to find out how many hours since they had their last 500 hr service. If it's recent then at your annual you'll probably only have to check the timing (which is a routine part of any annual or 100 hr check). If it's getting close to 500 hrs, or they are overdue (unfortunately not uncommon) talk to your mechanic about it before your annual. The 500 hr service kit is not expensive, but some prefer to send the mags out to a specialty shop for that sort of thing. I use Aircraft Magneto Service in Missoula, MT, and they have always done good, timely work for me.
It has Tanis and I am in a non heated hangar. Might get a ceramic for the cabin and turn it on the night before in winter. Good idea? Bad?KFAR means preheating really well. Install a Reiff heavy duty preheater - works great....
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It has Tanis and I am in a non heated hangar. Might get a ceramic for the cabin and turn it on the night before in winter. Good idea? Bad?
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she looks a whole lot better with the pants on... I might have to keep it off in winter
- Mechanics don't always put the greatest entries in logs. Learn what they're supposed to write and ask why they didn't.
It has Tanis and I am in a non heated hangar. Might get a ceramic for the cabin and turn it on the night before in winter. Good idea? Bad?
anyone got a list of things I need to know? right now I don't know what I don't know ...lol
Spot on. Anyone wants to buy a kidney?? Like newFigure out a way to get some extra regular income.
$10 in quarters for the candy machine, $100 in twenties for everything else.The best backup you can carry in the plane is a credit card for when you become AOG, or due to weather delays.
- Stickers. Some love them, some swear at them, but many shops these days will provide stickers with the legalese the mechanic wants in the logbook printed on them with their signature. See above. Look them over carefully before sticking them in, and secondly, make sure they get put in. Do not lose them.
Your list was pretty good but I'd add some clarification to this point. Know what the mechanics must write, what would be nice if they would write, and what they shouldn't write. The logbooks are there to document the work performed on the plane and/or ADs complied with. There is no obligation for the mechanic to write why they performed such work and the logbook is not a place for a mechanic to opine about the condition of the airplane.
Further, it would behoove all owners and prospective owners to read FAR part 91 and actually learn about aircraft document retention and what is important in the FAA's eyes. It is not the same as what everyone posts and says you need to have.
Spot on. Anyone wants to buy a kidney?? Like new
This is a hard one... I have read both sides, some says do it religiously, others say, they will always find something and put crap in the report to cover their basis.Well put.
What's the total time since new, and do you have a regular oil analysis done? ;-)
Speaking of that: Oil analysis. On the airplane engine, not your kidney...
Decide if you're doing it and if so, since it only works really if you have long term trends, contact your favorite analysis place and get them to ship out some sample bottles now... since you'll be flying the snot out of the airplane here soon, and the first oil change will come up quickly. ;-)
This is a hard one... I have read both sides, some says do it religiously, others say, they will always find something and put crap in the report to cover their basis.
Also trying to figure out how many hours between oil change... I have seen people do it anywhere from every 25 to every 50. Guess it's cheap insurance and doesn't hurt to do often once I learn how to do it myself. First time let AP do it and help, next time I do it and he supervises and from then on do it myself. If I choose every 25 hrs... well... I am at 16 hrs since ownership already
Thank you. Very helpful. Not being a private pilot yet, don't think I can do my own maintenance, but good time to learn from my AP while he is doing all these stuff. Now all those summer projects around the house that I had planned last fall...seems like will have to wait...foreverI've never seen Blackstone just put something in an analysis to find something in half a decade of doing it, if it makes you feel any better about it. Looking back at our reports prior to that, none there, either. They HAVE amazingly nailed a couple of minor things though in their reports. Probably the most surprising was when they told us it looked like there was a hole in our air filter by the raised silicon numbers they saw. Dirt/dust. Yup. Hole in the air filter we never saw during preflight. Amazing. A little "flap" would open in it from a rock that had cut it when the engine was running. You could stick your pinky through the air filter if you pushed the little flap open. The analysis able to see some really tiny changes.
We are on the side of "just do it". It's pretty cheap insurance for finding something early. Problem is, if you find something early, then you still have a decision to make.
I have joked in the past that the oil analysis probably really should be called "the 50 hour early warning system".
You'll get the analysis back that says something looks wrong, halfway into the oil change and it'll probably say "monitor for one more oil change"... and then you will, it'll still have metal from somewhere showing up, and you'll be tearing the engine open within 50 hours. LOL.
And of course, the oil analysis rarely says anything before you suck a valve. Bang! Haha.
Mayday, mayday, mayday...
Anyway... we use it. And will continue to do so. Like the CamGuard, doesn't add significantly by percentage to the oil change price and might, granted, might warn us of impending doom in the low end of the O-470. Probably won't tell us jack about anything in the top end.
Maybe it's just nice to read, "The numbers look normal for an O-470 at this number of hours" every few months.
On change interval...
We shoot for 25 and don't freak out too much if we go over because the airplane is busy/flying. Far better to dump a quart in if its low and keep flying the hell out of it, if the airplane isn't sitting. Longest we've gone was 39. And that's pretty rare, but it happened during my recent training stuff. No time to change it, and airplane was flying nearly daily, so no big deal. Still made me want to squirm a little. Mostly because I like maintenance to be done on time, not for any other "real" reason.
Worth seeing if the engine manufacturer has any recommendations or mandates, too, of course. We have a spin on filter, and I assume (but don't know) that you do, too. Not much left out there that is flying with a screen, but I wouldn't go that long on a screen. Too much crap being pumped around in the oil.
Oh yeah, have your mechanic show you how to cut open the oil filter and inspect it for crap properly. Analysis is only half of the game. Big chunks will be in the filter. Usually. You hope anyway.
And you'll have fun learning how to safety wire the filter. Hmmmm. That might be worth mentioning too, those safety wire pliers work well. You can do it by hand, but I like ours. I wouldn't say my safety wire jobs are pretty/beautiful, but I know the filter isn't going to back off... the first few times you do it, you'll look at it and think, "Man that sucks..." Just cut it off and do it again. Haha. Think of it as practice. Safety wire is cheap.
Oh. Back to that logbook thing. Learn the EXACT correct wording to write in your own book for owner maintenance, and use those exact words. I've seen all sorts of goofiness in logbooks from owner maintenance and while none of it really hurts anything, just make it look good.
Oh... photos. Photos of every freaking thing under the cowl or anything you can get at with a part number or data plate on it. You can cram an iPhone in amazing places and get them, too. Ha. So someday when you're sitting at home and thinking "we are going to need a new alternator soon", you just open your photo folder and find the shot of the alternator data plate for your shopping online expedition. Then you'll realize the exact same alternator is available at NAPA for 10x less money, but not legal to use. And you'll decide you hate airplane parts shopping and you're going to go pour yourself another stiff drink. Hahaha.
Thank you. Very helpful. Not being a private pilot yet, don't think I can do my own maintenance, but good time to learn from my AP while he is doing all these stuff. Now all those summer projects around the house that I had planned last fall...seems like will have to wait...forever