So how did this guy pass his check ride?

"How did he pass ?" - He paid in cash , of course ! Don't you guys know anything about GA ?
 
I've made a oops on a ride before, I've had students make a mistake too, everyone has, part of being human, but this guy, it just never ends!

It's hard to tell where the CFIs failures end and his start.

Shy of the guy just going 100% mentally blank for the ride, he never should have been signed off by his instructor.

Worst of all is the DPE, that guy didn't become a DPE by not knowing whats up, I mean sure let one little mistake that gets corrected go, but how on earth did he not say turn it around after SOO many huge mistakes.
 
This just kinda looked like another lesson for a ~20 hour PPL student. The DPE gave lotsa good tips :rofl: .
 
i just watched the entire thing.

I think I will avoid Dallas for a bit.
 
Only was able to watch a few minutes. In that time, the DE talked more than every examiner on every checkride i've ever taken.
 
So if a private pilot rating is a license to learn a sport pilot rating is a license to...? I'm sure some of you on here that are wiser than me can finish that statement.
 
I wanted to give up on the video after 2 minutes. After 5 I x'd out. I may have to watch more of the train wreck. I like the briefing of looking for other planes or birds when they were already airborne. Did he even do a pilot briefing on the ground?
 
It hurt so bad to watch. But I did it..
When he had the engine failure it really was painful to watch him not going through the engine failure checklist. I can sit in my chair and for even the Piper Warrior I haven't flown in three years I could do the engine failure checklist flow without issue. IT HURTS.

Is anyone else tired of hearing "Angle Angle Push"?
 
KeithASanford said:
I've heard some checkrides are more an opportunity for a DPE to teach than they are a strict test to pass or fail, but this is ridiculous. Maybe he was lenient because he though the guy was military. Sheesh, talk about your "license to learn"....
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The FAA doesn't agree and has chastised DPEs for teaching during the exam. Personally, I think that's stupid (assuming the examinee knows all he's required to know) when you consider how knowledgeable and experienced most DPEs are. They should be able to share some of that expertise.
 
If the guy ever pulls the video, I made a private copy for posterity.
 
The most dangerous part I saw was the power off stall- this stuff needs to be automatic. He just sits there like a dumbass, and the DPE has to tell him what to do! :mad2:

Let's hope the FSDO takes a look at this at some point and makes the guy take his ride again.
 
jjflys said:
The most dangerous part I saw was the power off stall- this stuff needs to be automatic. He just sits there like a dumbass, and the DPE has to tell him what to do! :mad2:

Let's hope the FSDO takes a look at this at some point and makes the guy take his ride again.
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I worry more about that DPE and the hordes of similar dummies he's (potentially) let into the wild. :hairraise:
(And for that matter, I worry about whoever is in charge of inspecting the output of this DPE.)
 
Has the FAA ever gone back and ordered a retest without an incident or accident? With the advent of YouTube etc I wonder if more actions will be taken vs. dpes and pilots. Also, why would a DPE let an applicant record and post the video?
 
jjflys said:
The most dangerous part I saw was the power off stall- this stuff needs to be automatic. He just sits there like a dumbass, and the DPE has to tell him what to do! :mad2:

Let's hope the FSDO takes a look at this at some point and makes the guy take his ride again.
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He had to tell him multiple times. Very sad. I bet his CFI got an earful from the examiner. But this should have been a fail.
 
I always felt like maybe my private ride were not quite up to standards. Very certain I gave the examiner enough reasons that he could have failed me. If this was a pass, then I flew my check ride to ATP standards!

Jim
 
iRyan said:
Has the FAA ever gone back and ordered a retest without an incident or accident?
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Recently there was a retest order for all people who took a checkride with a certain DPE, in Vegas IIRC, but I'm too lazy to look it up right now. (Okay, not just right now...I'm always too lazy!) ;)

Can't help but to think that the same could be in order for this DPE's sign-offs. IF the vid is real anyway.
 
While it's possible that it's the CFI's fault, there are just people who go dumbass on you no matter how well they trained. My instructor (who was also my roommate) had this student that had been dumped on him by others. This guy would behave normally and intelligently until you got him into an odd situation and he'd go goofy on you.

He flunked his checkride the first time over radio procedures. After my instructor worked with him for a while he said "Here you work with him." We went over all manner of radio calls (uncontrolled / controlled) and he was rock solid. Dale signed him off for his ride the next day.

His radio calls were great, but he for some reason (despite several ours of practicing downwind, base, final, .etc.... position reports) decided to fly a five mile final (anouncing it all the way) into the uncontrolled field he was directed to.

@*!*(#*
 
SixPapaCharlie said:
"I have assessed that the engine is still running, the problem is that the throttle is pulled out"
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The instructor that did our Navion transition had the habit of running the prop in and out while you are on takeoff roll to see what you would do. I closed the throttle and and asked what he was doing. He said he wanted to check my decision making in an unexpected situation.

He did that to my wife. She smacked him, put the prop back full forward, and continued the takeoff. Later she says "I guess you wanted me to abort that takeoff.' The instructor says "OK, you identified the problem, corrected the problem"
 
flyingron said:
He did that to my wife. She smacked him, put the prop back full forward, and continued the takeoff. Later she says "I guess you wanted me to abort that takeoff.' The instructor says "OK, you identified the problem, corrected the problem"
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:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
That's a good pilot right there!!
 
My PPL checkride was similar in that I didn't know what the PTS was, I didn't know the required maneuvers etc.

I built my first plane and learned to fly by trial and error. After a couple years I started logging dual and solo time in a 172 so I could get a certificate.

My dual time were trips to Death Valley, SoCal or Bay area with my girlfriend in the back seat. My solo time were similar trips but solo. As soon as I had logged over 39 hours someone signed me off for a checkride.

I was clueless but I could fly the plane and navigate.
 
flyingron said:
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He did that to my wife. She smacked him, put the prop back full forward, and continued the takeoff. Later she says "I guess you wanted me to abort that takeoff.' The instructor says "OK, you identified the problem, corrected the problem"
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Now, That was funny :lol:
 
I wonder if the DPE really knew he was being filmed.

He didn't appear to be the most tech savvy guy, and I wouldn't think he'd just let high def evidence of his inability to test to PTS standards get on the net, I mean being a DPE is a nice little side gig, why risk it just so some kid you dont even know can make a video?

I'd imagine if anything, if he knew he was being filmed he would have been "by the book" to the point of a near guarantee of busting the guys ride.
 
...does this guy really think he's got the chops to be a Naval aviator? I mean, I know none of us were Top Gun pilots on our PPL checkride but this is almost comical (it is, except for I realize this guy is flying around not all that far from me...). This DPE should have failed this guy about 20 times. This was more like a pre-solo lesson than a checkride. Wow.

I think my favorite is when the guy calls "...Bugsmasher 1234 on base..." and the DPE says, "LEFT base" and the dude says, "...man, you're relentless...".

:mad2:
 
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For me, the two definite failures are:

1. Having the DPE plot his course to the diversion because he didn't know how to use a plotter
2. Failing to troubleshoot durine engine out, and not even knowing there was a checklist for it.

There were others he should have failed on also, those were the worst, IMHO.

The stalls piece was actually fine, IMHO. Bad, but no DPE would fail someone because they didn't do a go around after a stall, most people just make em break and recover Into slow flight or something.
 
James331 said:
I wonder if the DPE really knew he was being filmed.

He didn't appear to be the most tech savvy guy, and I wouldn't think he'd just let high def evidence of his inability to test to PTS standards get on the net, I mean being a DPE is a nice little side gig, why risk it just so some kid you dont even know can make a video?

I'd imagine if anything, if he knew he was being filmed he would have been "by the book" to the point of a near guarantee of busting the guys ride.
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I was wondering the same thing, James.

If I were a FSDO Inspector and saw that video, I'd ****. A student having a few brain farts and some so-so maneuvers is one thing...but this guy was a train wreck. So many busts in that video it's hard to imagine any DPE signing him off.
 
In reading the comments, he states "I haven't flown since"
We are safe for now.
 
Cant be a real check ride....... My kids have failed there drivers tests for a very slight infraction of knowledge or driving skills.
 
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bflynn said:
A final being flow by a person who flew a left pattern, but doesn't know better.
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More like someone paying more attention to flying than their comms. You're in the groove, you just said left downwind, left base, and you accidentally say left before "final" because your forebrain is doing all the actual piloting stuff.

Then you let off the transmit button and say "did I just f*&^* say left final?".

Yeah I've done it...
 
Sounds like from the comments the DPE was making, either the instructor hadn't prepared him for the test or he just went brain dead because of the exam.... or more likely a combo.

Also...

28:30.... *ANGLE ANGLE PUSH* *ANGLE ANGLE PUSH* *ANGLE ANGLE PUSH* *ANGLE ANGLE PUSH* *ANGLE ANGLE PUSH*

Do all glass cockpits have that for a stall warning? I think I'd be about ready to take an ice pick to that thing after a few training sessions...
 
Pretty sure it is real. Looked him up. He was issued a sport pilot certificate the day of the video.

Selected Airman Airman: MATTHEW KENNETH ADAM
Personal Information
MATTHEW KENNETH ADAM

***********************
FORT WORTH TX *****-****
County: TARRANT
Country: USA
Medical
Medical Class: Third, Medical Date: 12/2013
MUST WEAR CORRECTIVE LENSES.
Certificates
SPORT PILOT
Date of Issue: 7/3/2014
Certificate: SPORT PILOT Print

Limits:
SPORT ENDORSEMENT(S) AIRPLANE SINGLE ENGINE LAND.
HOLDER DOES NOT MEET ICAO REQUIREMENTS.
 
He's all discombobulated, but he did appear to fly the plane with ease and authority.

He aviated, navigated, and communicated maybe not the best, but he did it.
 
txflyer said:
He's all discombobulated, but he did appear to fly the plane with ease and authority.

He aviated, navigated, and communicated maybe not the best, but he did it.
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Were you watching the same video?

If that DPE would have just failed his MFD and diverted him, not said a word, he would have been screwed!

The kid got a full on ground lesson on how to navigate on the ride :nono:
 
James331 said:
Were you watching the same video?

If that DPE would have just failed his MFD and diverted him, not said a word, he would have been screwed!

The kid got a full on ground lesson on how to navigate on the ride :nono:
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I didn't watch every minute of it, kind of skipped through it.

My point was he didn't seem to have any trouble flying the machine. He took off, stalled it, landed it, and did everything relatively safely ... no loss of control.

His chart skills suck, but if my 430 went dead and I had to pull out a chart, I'd probably suck at it too by now ...
 
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