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I see these ads on web pages for "Official Windows drivers" I assume that they are scams to put mal ware. Am I wrong?

Paul
Salome, AZ
 
yes. you are correct.
only download drivers from the official company sites.

Lots of "free driver" sites now effing up machines.

Edit: Between you, me and the wall, I have a great way to lose belly fat using this one weird old tip. I will forward you the link.
 
I see these ads on web pages for "Official Windows drivers" I assume that they are scams to put mal ware. Am I wrong?

Paul
Salome, AZ

Maybe. Even Probably.

What are they driving? Just visit the website of the hardware you need the driver for and ask if your Scambait 2015 driver is real or not....

Note the word "need". Do not upgrade drivers if the old one is working for you.
 
yes. you are correct.
only download drivers from the official company sites.

Lots of "free driver" sites now effing up machines.

Edit: Between you, me and the wall, I have a great way to lose belly fat using this one weird old tip. I will forward you the link.

I can teach the trick in the attachment
 

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Any unsolicited software stuff, or claims that my e-mail box is full, or anything with an unsolicited attachment is deleted immediately.
 
cnet used to be accepted by some gurus as a site that vets software, still?
 
cnet used to be accepted by some gurus as a site that vets software, still?

Kim Kommando's is the first site I go to for downloading stuff (always find good suggestions for which to pick when I need something), and she links through CNET sometimes, so I would imagine it is still safe.
 
cnet used to be accepted by some gurus as a site that vets software, still?

Meh. I've found some bad stuff there. I never found anything outright viral, but I've found undisclosed adware and just plain crappy software.

As for the thread topic, yes, those ads are scams or worse. Windows Update usually will tell you about any critical (security-related) driver updates, and if you just need the latest drivers you can almost always find them on the device or computer manufacturer's Web site.

Rich
 
For a while CNet was wrapping free downloads in a crapware wrapper that brought unwanted stuff with it. I quit using them way back then, and haven't used since. I tend toward Tucows and Major Geeks.
 
Just the fact that you are seeing those ads probably means you are already infected in some way. I'd download rkill, malwarebytes, and rogue killer from bleepingcomputer.com. Run rkill, then install malwarebytes and run it. Then rogue killer.

Be EXTRA careful when downloading anything from anywhere. Even the best legitimate sites now seem t have extra "download" buttons all over them that are thinly disguised ads for crapware.
 
Just the fact that you are seeing those ads probably means you are already infected in some way. I'd download rkill, malwarebytes, and rogue killer from bleepingcomputer.com. Run rkill, then install malwarebytes and run it. Then rogue killer.

Be EXTRA careful when downloading anything from anywhere. Even the best legitimate sites now seem t have extra "download" buttons all over them that are thinly disguised ads for crapware.

This post.

Most of these problems can be solved by having a router, having a virus scan/firewall program and not downloading stuff from odd sources.

If I need to download drivers, I go to the source. Usually my laptop manufacturers website or the hardware manufacturers website. Cnet is okay, but you can still get a lot of crap from there.

Get some of the software mentioned above and run it semiregularly.
 
Just a warning: most "antivirus" programs today are powerless to prevent malware/virus infections. Don't confuse "antivirus" programs with the programs mentioned above. Those programs excel at "after-the-fact" removal of infections, not preventing them. If you are tricked into clicking something, antivirus programs cannot identify the about-to-be-installed program as a virus/malware. According to the courts, you opted-in.

Adware/crapware is malware with a good legal team.

It's really boiled down to a legal thing. A virus has been defined as something that spreads automatically from computer to computer. So, the bad guys pretty much gave up on that and switched to attacking YOU instead of the computer. It's called social engineering. So, now, your antivirus program protects you from an attack that no longer happens.

And it's not just "clicking" that can get you in trouble... Not "unclicking" can get you in trouble, too. Many legitimate products are being bundled with a bunch of crapware that will install itself if you don't un-check a box(es). Bastards, all of them.
 
Just the fact that you are seeing those ads probably means you are already infected in some way.

Nah. They're probably just Adsense ads. Google has no qualms about hawking malware if that's what the highest bidder is selling.

I get driver download Adsense ads constantly, even on Linux machines, if I've been searching for drivers, reading an Adsense-enabled page dealing with drivers (like a forum page about a driver conflict, for example), or downloading drivers onto my own or someone else's machine using my office Internet connection. I know for a fact that some of the sites being advertised are laden with malware, adware, crapware, and grayware. Until someone complains, Google doesn't care.

Neither does it matter whether or not I used Google search to get to the page about drivers. The Adsense code on the content page is enough to identify and make note of my interest. So is Google Analytics code or calls to Google fonts or APIs in the page code. By visiting any page containing any of the above, on any computer or device on my network, I'll insure that I get those ads on every other computer on my network. I'll even get them on my Blackberry when I'm using it on my office WiFi, and then even when I'm not on WiFi, once Google has associated the interest to the BlackBerry's browser and Device ID.

Just for ****s and giggles, I went to an Adsense-enabled site on my sister-in-law's phone the last time she was here and using my connection. Sure enough, she was getting ads for whatever Google had decided I was interested in that day based on my computer activity.

In short, the mere presence of the ads doesn't mean the machine is infected. It just means that to call Google a whore defames real whores the world over.

I'd download rkill, malwarebytes, and rogue killer from bleepingcomputer.com. Run rkill, then install malwarebytes and run it. Then rogue killer.

Great ideas if you think the machine's rooted. Nice choice of easily-available tools that are unlikely to break anything, too, along with a trustworthy source site. I think it's a bit overkill if the only evidence of a problem is an Adsense ad (if that's what it is); but hey, better safe than sorry if there's any doubt.

Be EXTRA careful when downloading anything from anywhere. Even the best legitimate sites now seem t have extra "download" buttons all over them that are thinly disguised ads for crapware.

I agree completely. And a lot of the "download buttons" are Adsense ads.

Rich
 
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If I have to download something, I like to check it with virustotal.com afterwards, which will scan the file with about 50 different virus scanners. Over time any of the major scanners are decent, but the ability for them to reliably detect new threats is pretty poor. Sometimes I submit 5 or more pieces of undetected malware to the AV companies in a single day.
 
Just a warning: most "antivirus" programs today are powerless to prevent malware/virus infections. Don't confuse "antivirus" programs with the programs mentioned above. Those programs excel at "after-the-fact" removal of infections, not preventing them. If you are tricked into clicking something, antivirus programs cannot identify the about-to-be-installed program as a virus/malware. According to the courts, you opted-in.

Adware/crapware is malware with a good legal team.

It's really boiled down to a legal thing. A virus has been defined as something that spreads automatically from computer to computer. So, the bad guys pretty much gave up on that and switched to attacking YOU instead of the computer. It's called social engineering. So, now, your antivirus program protects you from an attack that no longer happens.

And it's not just "clicking" that can get you in trouble... Not "unclicking" can get you in trouble, too. Many legitimate products are being bundled with a bunch of crapware that will install itself if you don't un-check a box(es). Bastards, all of them.

Yep, at least 50 emails a day are deceptive 'click bait' for malware or to gain passwords. My favorite is "Your Yahoo email is full, click here and log in to...blah blah blah" I get at least 20 of those a day.
 
Be EXTRA careful when downloading anything from anywhere.
Very true.
What I like about my Norton antivirus (which I got for free through Comcast account) is that it warns me before I attempt to download something fishy. It already happened to me couple times that I attempted to download some very legitimate looking Windows utility and my Norton told me to stop - this is a bad/suspect site, stay away. Basically Norton tells me if some site is 'safe' or not.
most "antivirus" programs today are powerless to prevent malware/virus infections
Again, my Norton does reasonable job protecting me from suspect/unsafe sites, I don't expect it knows about every single bad site but I suspect it is a lot better than not having any such advance warning.
 
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Just don't feel invincible... We find computers running Norton that are massively infected all the time. Last year, Norton's Senior Vice President declared AntiVirus Software "dead", and that they were only 45% effective at preventing infections. (that number may be optimistic)
 
Just don't feel invincible... We find computers running Norton that are massively infected all the time. Last year, Norton's Senior Vice President declared AntiVirus Software "dead", and that they were only 45% effective at preventing infections. (that number may be optimistic)

Norton started going downhill the day Peter stopped writing the code.

Rich
 
Norton started going downhill the day Peter stopped writing the code.

Rich

Norton (Symantec) products have caused me far more misery than they have saved, same for McAfee. When I get a new computer I uninstall all of their stuff before they get a chance to fully install/activate. AVG Free and Malwarebytes as well as just common sense (not opening unknown attachments...) keeps me problem free.
 
Norton (Symantec) products have caused me far more misery than they have saved, same for McAfee. When I get a new computer I uninstall all of their stuff before they get a chance to fully install/activate. AVG Free and Malwarebytes as well as just common sense (not opening unknown attachments...) keeps me problem free.

The one I use now is ESET NOD32. I've been using it about five years, which makes it a record.

They all have their "golden ages," though. The trick is knowing when one's ends and the other's begins.

Rich
 
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