Repositioning Airplane

[evapilotaz]

Do I call up ground control if I want to move an airplane from the FBO to the Terminal Parking so I can pick up my passengers there? My feeling is yes just to be on the safe side and it may be a FAR requirement. The path from FBO to Terminal is just around the corner from the aircraft location. The tower will see the aircraft movement.

Thanks.

David

 

[AggieMike88]

If your path of travel takes you into the movement area of a towered airport, yes, you must obtain clearance with ground control.

If your path does not enter the movement area, you are not required to obtain a clearance. But communicating with them anyway would be a nice courtesy so they know what's going on. And the may see a hazard you haven't yet seen.

 

[SixPapaCharlie]

I only call ground when I am ready to cross the line onto a movement area.

 

[evapilotaz]

So here is my route of travel.

 

[AggieMike88]

So here is my route of travel.

That short, and staying within the ramp area, I wouldn't call ground.

But monitor the frequency in case they call you. And for situational awareness in case another aircraft will be turning into that taxi way in a little bit.

 

[Gucci Pilot]

That short, and staying within the ramp area, I wouldn't call ground.

But monitor the frequency in case they call you. And for situational awareness in case another aircraft will be turning into that taxi way in a little bit.

 

[AggieMike88]

But a different thought about that short of a distance...

It might be simpler just to meet your passengers at the FBO lobby and then walk them to your depicted starting point. Saving wear and tear on your engine and the both of hot(warm) start procedures.

 

[Geico266]

That short, and staying within the ramp area, I wouldn't call ground.

But monitor the frequency in case they call you. And for situational awareness in case another aircraft will be turning into that taxi way in a little bit.

But a different thought about that short of a distance...

It might be simpler just to meet your passengers at the FBO lobby and then walk them to your depicted starting point. Saving wear and tear on your engine and the both of hot(warm) start procedures.

 

[Velocity173]

So here is my route of travel.

You're on the ramp (non movement area.) don't call ground. If you're unsure where the movement areas begin at your field, contact the tower. They should have an airfield map to email you.

 

[MAKG1]

That short, and staying within the ramp area, I wouldn't call ground.

But monitor the frequency in case they call you. And for situational awareness in case another aircraft will be turning into that taxi way in a little bit.

You can't tell from the airport diagram.

Don't cross the dashed yellow line without getting clearance from Ground. Probably, the area you show is entirely outside the movement area, but check yourself. Use the satellite image if you want (but check the date -- most of them aren't that old, but some of them are).

 

[Velocity173]

Based on the satellite of Chandler, it appears to be a non movement ramp area.

 

[cowman]

I used to taxi farther than that from my hangar to the ramp to meet my CFI, this was in the non-movement area and I did not talk to ground.

 

[frfly172]

Non movement area ,no need to call tower.

 

[N801BH]

If your path of travel takes you into the movement area of a towered airport, yes, you must obtain clearance with ground control.

If your path does not enter the movement area, you are not required to obtain a clearance. But communicating with them anyway would be a nice courtesy so they know what's going on. And the may see a hazard you haven't yet seen.

Best answer yet......

 

[jordane93]

If your path of travel takes you into the movement area of a towered airport, yes, you must obtain clearance with ground control.

If your path does not enter the movement area, you are not required to obtain a clearance. But communicating with them anyway would be a nice courtesy so they know what's going on. And the may see a hazard you haven't yet seen.

Yep..

 

[bobmrg]

You're on the ramp (non movement area.) don't call ground. If you're unsure where the movement areas begin at your field, contact the tower. They should have an airfield map to email you.

The movement area (taxiway) is separated from the non-movement area by two parallel yellow lines. Unless your taxi path crosses a double yellow line, you are in a non-movement area and the ground controller does not have authority there. Having said that, good operating practice is, IMHO, to give them a call.

Bob Gardner

 

[Z06_Mir]

Chandler ground will not be impressed if you call them to reposition like that. I have a hangar near 4R and never called to reposition to the terminal or CAS. I heard someone once call and realized that isn't the right thing to do. They're too busy to deal with non movement area stuff.

 

[Velocity173]

The movement area (taxiway) is separated from the non-movement area by two parallel yellow lines. Unless your taxi path crosses a double yellow line, you are in a non-movement area and the ground controller does not have authority there. Having said that, good operating practice is, IMHO, to give them a call.

Bob Gardner

Yes, as I said he's on a ramp. He doesn't approach a double (dashed & solid) until approaching taxiway alpha at Chandler AZ. I'd say that rule applies 99 % of the time though. At SVN we had two taxiways with no double yellow and were still considered movement areas. It wasn't until we consulted the map at base ops did we realize this.

He can call ground but he might very well get "N12345, you're on an non movement area. Actions are at your own risk." People walking around, golf carts, cars. Too much liability involved.

 

[evapilotaz]

Thanks for the replies. I thought the terminal would be a nicer more comfortable place for the passengers to meet me. Besides I wod have all preflight completed. Just a thought!

 

[NJP_MAN]

As said before, just monitor ground.

 

[Clark1961]

Chandler ground will not be impressed if you call them to reposition like that. I have a hangar near 4R and never called to reposition to the terminal or CAS. I heard someone once call and realized that isn't the right thing to do. They're too busy to deal with non movement area stuff.

local knowlede = good thing

At BJC we were expected to let the tower know about nearly all movement. It's a local thing there and has to do with airport layout and concentration of flight schools which mixed fixed wing and helicopters.