Read before you give Obama care information.

[John Baker]

On Fox Business Network’s “Cavuto” on Wednesday, computer programmer and founder of McAfee, Inc. John McAfee said the online component of Obamacare “is a hacker’s wet dream” that will cause “the loss of income for the millions of Americans who are going to lose their identities.”
For starters, McAfee said the way it is set up makes it possible for fake websites be set up to fool people to think they’re signing up for Obamacare.
“It’s seriously bad,” McAfee said. “Somebody made a grave error, not in designing the program but in simply implementing the web aspect of it. I mean, for example, anybody can put up a web page and claim to be a broker for this system. There is no central place where I can go and say, ‘OK, here are all the legitimate brokers, the examiners for all of the states and pick and choose one.’”


“Instead, any hacker can put a website up, make it look extremely competitive, and because of the nature of the system — and this is health care, after all — they can ask you the most intimate questions, and you’re freely going to answer them,” he continued. “What’s my Social Security number? My birth date? What are my health issues?”
According to McAfee, there’s not a quick fix — and as long as it set up this way, it could be a playground for computer hackers.



“Here’s the problem: It’s not something software can solve,” McAfee continued. “I mean, what idiot put this system out there and did not create a central depository? There should be one website, run by the government, you go to that website and then you can click on all of the agencies. This is insane. So, I will predict that the loss of income for the millions of Americans who are going to lose their identities — I mean, you can imagine some retired lady in Utah, who has $75,000 dollars in the bank, saving her whole life, having it wiped out in one day because she signed up for Obamacare. And believe me, this is going to happen millions of times. This is a hacker’s wet dream. I mean I cannot believe that they did this.”


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/03/j...s-is-a-hackers-wet-dream-video/#ixzz2jAoKGIo4

 

[LJS1993]

On Fox Business Network’s “Cavuto” on Wednesday, computer programmer and founder of McAfee, Inc. John McAfee said the online component of Obamacare “is a hacker’s wet dream” that will cause “the loss of income for the millions of Americans who are going to lose their identities.”
For starters, McAfee said the way it is set up makes it possible for fake websites be set up to fool people to think they’re signing up for Obamacare.
“It’s seriously bad,” McAfee said. “Somebody made a grave error, not in designing the program but in simply implementing the web aspect of it. I mean, for example, anybody can put up a web page and claim to be a broker for this system. There is no central place where I can go and say, ‘OK, here are all the legitimate brokers, the examiners for all of the states and pick and choose one.’”


“Instead, any hacker can put a website up, make it look extremely competitive, and because of the nature of the system — and this is health care, after all — they can ask you the most intimate questions, and you’re freely going to answer them,” he continued. “What’s my Social Security number? My birth date? What are my health issues?”
According to McAfee, there’s not a quick fix — and as long as it set up this way, it could be a playground for computer hackers.



“Here’s the problem: It’s not something software can solve,” McAfee continued. “I mean, what idiot put this system out there and did not create a central depository? There should be one website, run by the government, you go to that website and then you can click on all of the agencies. This is insane. So, I will predict that the loss of income for the millions of Americans who are going to lose their identities — I mean, you can imagine some retired lady in Utah, who has $75,000 dollars in the bank, saving her whole life, having it wiped out in one day because she signed up for Obamacare. And believe me, this is going to happen millions of times. This is a hacker’s wet dream. I mean I cannot believe that they did this.”


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/03/j...s-is-a-hackers-wet-dream-video/#ixzz2jAoKGIo4

Lack of planning and forethought went into the system.

 

[Tom-D]

Copied to FB.

 

[Bob Noel]

All that matters is that I get to have health insurance cheap. All this other stuff is just a small price to pay.

 

[John Baker]

I just sent it to everyone on my e-mail list...I hope they both take it to heart.

-John

 

[ClimbnSink]

All that matters is that I get to have health insurance cheap. All this other stuff is just a small price for other people to pay.

Fixed

 

[CJones]

All that matters is that I get to have health insurance cheap. All this other stuff is just a small price to pay.

Not so sure about that. My co-worker just said that when he added some special dandruff shampoo to his 'prior medical history' information, his annual cost went up by $2500/yr. It's sounding like this 'cheap insurance for everyone!' sales pitch is not what it turned out to be.

 

[Kelvin]

Mcafee is bat**** insane

Yep...but is he wrong?

 

[roncachamp]

All that matters is that I get to have health insurance cheap. All this other stuff is just a small price to pay.

What makes you believe you'll get to have health insurance cheap?

 

[DaleB]

It's sounding like this 'cheap insurance for everyone!' sales pitch is not what it turned out to be.

I'm shocked to hear that you think our elected government officials would tell you anything that's not true.

Shocked, I say.

 

[No Joy]

Lack of planning and forethought went into the system.

In some ways yes. In other ways no.

It seems that they were too incompetent and lazy to build it right. It seems rather than building it right, keeping our security a priority, they instead tried to cover their butts the dishonest way.

"You have no reasonable expectation of privacy regarding any communication or data transiting or stored on this information system," reads the disclaimer, which does not appear on the site's visible "Terms and Conditions" page.

"At any time, and for any lawful Government purpose, the government may monitor, intercept, and search and seize any communication or data transiting or stored on this information system."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/16/obamacare-website-poses-privacy-threat/

 

[JeffDG]

He's describing a run of the mill phishing scam that almost all if not every business that deals with lots of transactions have to deal with. I would expect the government site to conform to the government standards put in place for such transactions. There's a lot to worry about with Obamacare, this ain't one of them. Besides Google will have the site flagged within hours and anybody with a reasonably recent browser will be warned. So to answer your question, yes, he's incorrect it is something that software can solve.

For the moment, pfishing sites are very easy to identify...they actually work.

 

[JimNtexas]

All that matters is that I get to have health insurance cheap. All this other stuff is just a small price to pay.

All that matters is that I get to have health insurance cheap.

Fixed it for you.

 

[cowman]

As to the software, I'll just say this much.

I worked as a programmer for a major retailer for several years and one of the things I worked on was exporting our company health insurance information... basically who was to be enrolled, their dependents, plan info, dates to our company's insurance provider.

We went through 3 insurance companies in 3 years. Each one had a different file specification, each one had a different set of rules for how things were to be reported. Our company had it's own way of recording things and determining effective dates and termination dates and so on.

These rules were always complicated.... not that any single one was complex but translating the myriad of small rules into code while at the same time translating from a different system with a different set of rules created problems after the roll out every single time. It didn't help that we always got notice sometime in Nov and had to have it working by late Dec. Usually took until summer to get all the bugs identified and ironed out.

What they're doing with the health care exchanges is several orders of magnitude more complex than anything I dealt with. Frankly, given my own experiences I'm impressed that it works at all.

 

[John Baker]

On the news last night they made it pretty clear that in a test of just 200 people two weeks before Obama care registration opened for business ,that the entire thing crashed. Obama ordered it as a go anyway. Of course the government official tiptoed around who it was that gave the order, but it was clear it was Obama, even though he knew it would probably crash.

-John

 

[Bob Noel]

Not so sure about that. My co-worker just said that when he added some special dandruff shampoo to his 'prior medical history' information, his annual cost went up by $2500/yr. It's sounding like this 'cheap insurance for everyone!' sales pitch is not what it turned out to be.

The point was obscure, all that matters is I get to have insurance cheap. Your co-worker's cost is just a small price to pay.

 

[Bob Noel]

What makes you believe you'll get to have health insurance cheap?

We were promised.

 

[roncachamp]

We were promised.

Promised the impossible.

 

[JoseCuervo]

Yeah, 'cuz we all know John McAfee is a reliable and stable person.....

McAfee’s lifestyle out in Belize was not exactly the epitome of a blissful, relaxing retirement. Sixty-seven year old McAfee was known to be a bit of a player, surrounding himself with various young women (one of his girlfriends was as young as seventeen) on a regular basis. A local waiter from nearby San Pedro stated,

“Not two or three, a lot of women. Every time I saw him it was a different woman.”

McAfee is also a gun fanatic, took two security guards with him everywhere he went and was suspected of running a meth lab. Residents of the island in which McAfee’s compound is situated described him to the press as an ‘eccentric’ and ‘impulsive man’.

Eventually, in April earlier this year McAfee’s home was raided by Belize’s Gang Suppression Unit under the suspicion of cooking meth and owning illegal firearms. This was partly due to one of McAfee’s online trolling sessions over the drug MDPV on a Russian message board, claiming he had reinvented the formula for hyper-sexuality.

John McAfee is a high-functioning mentalist, an eccentric of epic proportions. His story unfolds and escalates like a real life Breaking Bad scenario or Hunter S. Thompson novel. In 2008 McAfee moved to Belize after a string of unsuccessful business ventures in the states and no longer having any association with his founding anti-virus company McAfee, conveniently leaving a five million dollar lawsuit over the apparent ‘wrongful death’ of a pilot flying one of his planes completely unaccounted for.

Meanwhile, police have routinely said McAfee is merely a “person of interest” and haven’t charged him in the death of Faull, who was found Nov. 11 with a gunshot to the head in his Ambergris Caye home.
McAfee, who made a fortune creating the anti-virus software company that bears his name, has publicly declared his innocence. But that hasn’t stopped him from saying he’s hiding out from the law, as well as donning disguises and claiming the government will execute him if he is captured.

His personal blog, whoismcafee.com, filed a report Saturday saying McAfee may have been “captured.” But on Monday, McAfee wrote that he was fleeing Belize and it was his body double carrying a North Korean passport who was detained in Mexico — a bizarre explanation that only added to the kookiness of the case.
McAfee, who has told the press about his deep distrust with the Belizean government, added that he has been traveling with Vanegas because he believes she was in danger of getting kidnapped.

Yeah, only Fox News would believe this guy is sane....

 

[ClimbnSink]

Yup insane, his security in the second from bottom picture are carrying pellet guns. That is totally nuts.

 

[cowman]

I can't believe nobody has posted this yet...

Language/inappropriate for work content warning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKgf5PaBzyg

 

[Dave Siciliano]

Obama ordered it as a go anyway.
-John

That can't be correct John, he said he didn't know about the problems; I heard him on the news (sarc). What else, IRS, didn't know; Benghazi--same, same. Merkel's phone being listened to; said he hadn't been briefed. NSA listening to allies-no one briefed him.
What does a commander-in-chief do anyway? This one doesn't seem to know anything at all when something goes wrong.
But he has taken credit for the one year stock market rally, US gaining oil independence, Ben Laden raid (but can't account for where he was during it), etc.


Best,

Dave

 

[frfly172]

Remember if you are happy with you health insurance you can keep it. Just wondering how much the web design co gave to the campaign?

 

[JoeSelch]

Remember if you are happy with you health insurance you can keep it. Just wondering how much the web design co gave to the campaign?

Missing the sarcasm smiley? (I'm happy with my health insurance plan but can't keep it.)

 

[ChrisK]

Mcafee is bat**** insane

Yep...but is he wrong?

He's completely non-credible. Anyone in the government who sought his advice did so as a matter of political grandstanding and in no way has any intention of using him to accomplish anything worthwhile whatsoever.

 

[JoseCuervo]

Yep...but is he wrong?

He is about as correct in saying that somebody can set up a spoof website as he is in saying a 5-year old with a box of crayons could create a fake Mona Lisa and sell it to some unsuspecting rube.


Yes, criminals will attempt to separate rubes from their money from every angle they can.

But, McAfee is bat**** insane, and only Fox News would see him as a reliable source.

 

[timwinters]

But, McAfee is bat**** insane, and only Fox News would see him as a reliable source.

People that hate Fox news, are envious of their relative superior honesty and intelligence.

Oh, that's obvious.

And what's more obvious yet is that political topics aren't kicked into the spin zone IF the MC agrees with the premise.

BTW, people, who, hate, fox, news, also, know, how, to, use, commas.

 

[Geico266]

Remember if you are happy with you health insurance you can keep it. Just wondering how much the web design co gave to the campaign?

That became news today also, $40 million.

 

[Bob Noel]

Oh, that's obvious.

And what's more obvious yet is that political topics aren't kicked into the spin zone IF the MC agrees with the premise.

BTW, people, who, hate, fox, news, also, know, how, to, use, commas.

seriously? a typo post is your attack?

 

[timwinters]

seriously? a typo post is your attack?

An errantly inserted comma can't be considered a typo. I would especially believe this to be the case when it's inserted by one with superior intelligence.

Irregardlessly regardless.

 

[RJM62]

McAfee is a bit eccentric, to say the least. But that doesn't mean he's wrong.

-Rich

 

[bbchien]

Remember if you are happy with you health insurance you can keep it. Just wondering how much the web design co gave to the campaign?

Nope I got that promise (keep your health plan), and I was told by BC BS that I could not continue after Dec 31. Of course I knew it was going to cost more....

New plan: double the deductible, $300 more per month. thank you very little.

The guy outright lied.
This will be the end of the democratic administration.

He's tone deaf too, shutting down Boston on the night of a world series game for a town hall meeting to defend o-care. YGBSM

 

[Dave Siciliano]

An errantly inserted comma can't be considered a typo. I would especially believe this to be the case when it's inserted by one with superior intelligence.

Irregardlessly regardless.

It matters! I thought my blood type was A+, but it turned out to be type-o (g).

Best,

Dave

 

[Bob Noel]

An errantly inserted comma can't be considered a typo. I would especially believe this to be the case when it's inserted by one with superior intelligence.

Irregardlessly regardless.

A bird can't be considered a typo either. But a typo is a typo is a typo.

Superior intelligence, or one who only thinks their intelligence is superior, is not immune from error.

 

[SixPapaCharlie]

As to the software, I'll just say this much.

I worked as a programmer for a major retailer for several years and one of the things I worked on was exporting our company health insurance information... basically who was to be enrolled, their dependents, plan info, dates to our company's insurance provider.

We went through 3 insurance companies in 3 years. Each one had a different file specification, each one had a different set of rules for how things were to be reported. Our company had it's own way of recording things and determining effective dates and termination dates and so on.

These rules were always complicated.... not that any single one was complex but translating the myriad of small rules into code while at the same time translating from a different system with a different set of rules created problems after the roll out every single time. It didn't help that we always got notice sometime in Nov and had to have it working by late Dec. Usually took until summer to get all the bugs identified and ironed out.

What they're doing with the health care exchanges is several orders of magnitude more complex than anything I dealt with. Frankly, given my own experiences I'm impressed that it works at all.

I am right there with you. I was a software engineer for years working in healthcare and insurance.

Pretty much all of our rollouts were like this one. It s just that this one is public for everyone to see and people that haven't walked in our shoes don't know this is normal to some extent and it looks like a dismal failure.

I am sure it will be fine in time.

 

[RJM62]

As to the software, I'll just say this much.

I worked as a programmer for a major retailer for several years and one of the things I worked on was exporting our company health insurance information... basically who was to be enrolled, their dependents, plan info, dates to our company's insurance provider.

We went through 3 insurance companies in 3 years. Each one had a different file specification, each one had a different set of rules for how things were to be reported. Our company had it's own way of recording things and determining effective dates and termination dates and so on.

These rules were always complicated.... not that any single one was complex but translating the myriad of small rules into code while at the same time translating from a different system with a different set of rules created problems after the roll out every single time. It didn't help that we always got notice sometime in Nov and had to have it working by late Dec. Usually took until summer to get all the bugs identified and ironed out.

What they're doing with the health care exchanges is several orders of magnitude more complex than anything I dealt with. Frankly, given my own experiences I'm impressed that it works at all.

Oh, c'mon. It's really just a freaking shopping cart, when you get down to it. It doesn't even need a check-out.

If it had been designed by people with common sense, they would have standardized APIs across the insurance industry years ago, and almost all of the processing could have been offloaded to the companies' servers. The government server would merely make database calls based on user-provided information, and render it on the screen. When the user decided on a policy, they would click into the insurer's site, and submit their applications there.

This is basically a shopping cart for other companies' products. The companies, not the government, are the ones making money from it; so they also should be the ones who do most of the work, including providing the server resources to handle the database calls and process the applications.

If they don't like it, that's fine. This is America. They don't have to comply at all, if they don't want to. But neither does the government have to give them free advertising on the exchanges if they don't want to comply. They can hawk their products elsewhere.

Having said all that, Obamacare is a nightmare of epic proportions. I was against it all along, and am even more so now. But let's not pretend that building a shopping cart is a monumental programming feat.

-Rich

 

[JoseCuervo]

Having said all that, Obamacare is a nightmare of epic proportions. I was against it all along, and am even more so now. But let's not pretend that building a shopping cart is a monumental programming feat.

-Rich

Just out of curiosity, has this "nightmare of epic proportions" actually affected you? If so, in what manner?

 

[denverpilot]

He's describing a run of the mill phishing scam that almost all if not every business that deals with lots of transactions have to deal with. I would expect the government site to conform to the government standards put in place for such transactions. There's a lot to worry about with Obamacare, this ain't one of them. Besides Google will have the site flagged within hours and anybody with a reasonably recent browser will be warned. So to answer your question, yes, he's incorrect it is something that software can solve.

Most businesses don't link out to subsidiaries. You can look at the URL and know you're still accessing their servers.

 

[Rigged4Flight]

I thought he was dead

 

[No Joy]

The amount of server infrastructure and distributed computing power to handle that sites traffic is the reason "Joomla!" with a shopping cart plugin wouldn't go far.

I worked for the place that held about 60% of the bank accounts in Alaska, we had to petition the government to break up the permanent fund checks over a two day span because try as we might. We couldn't handle the traffic of people logging in to see if their money was in. We also biffed the load balancer because we set it up on IP ranges and a LARGE portion of our clients were on the military bases that all wound up hitting the same server at the same time. Changed that and it screwed up the session affinity because it would swap servers between page loads. I beat the crap out of that thing with Loadrunner and we still had issues.

While "coding the shopping cart" might be trivial, setting up a website that's going to get it's MAX LOAD traffic on day one would be a daunting task. Hell just setting up the database and strategies to cache the sessions would be a task, having all the SSL certs pass around and talk through the load balancers, having a good load balancing scheme, session affinity etc.. etc.. etc..

Sure Amazon can handle it, they started small and grew with the times. The O-Care website had to go from idle to the firewall on day one.

For the amount of cash they spent, they should have been able to pull it off, I'm not defending it, but I don't think it's fair to trivialize it as a "shopping cart system" Those sort of loads demand special attention by everyone involved. one little "WHERE SUBSTRING(0,5,a.FNAME) = SUBSTRING(0,5,b.FNAME)" and you're screwed.

Your premise is off. The Obama administration and their contractors knew that the website would be hit with heavy traffic. Yet in pathetically late tests prior to the Obamacare website launch, the Obamacare website couldn't even handle 200 to 300 people before the website crashed.

Despite spending a ton of money, they lallygagged. They spent a bunch of money, wasted a bunch of time, they didn't communicate properly. Contract seem to have been awarded based on cronyism. If pathetically couldn't even handle a few hundred people. Nearly a month later, they don't even know how many people have signed up. They say it's liable to be months, before they know how many people signed up this month. That's absolutely pathetic. It's an epic failure.

CBS News has learned the website failed with a small test pool of 200 to 300 people that included employees from the government and insurance companies.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_1...site-failed-in-tests-just-before-launch-date/