Putting things in perspective

jesse said:
Okay Dan. I disagree. Not going to take this any further as Tristan is dragging me around the fair and I am likely to step in horse **** while concentrating on replying.
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Your fair must be really awful. At our State Fair (just a short drive from my house) you don't set in any manure ever, unless you walk into the stalls, which you aren't supposed to do.

I won 4 ribbons this year.
 
Jesse,

If we replaced "The Bible" with "The Complete Works of William Shakespeare", the conversation would be the same. This is about manuscripts, translations and the validity thereof.
 
I fail to see how having multiple copies of the same document increases the validity of it's interpretation and translation.
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Even from the perspective of a skeptic, this is, admittedly, merely an academic rabbit hole, because even if we had the New Testament in the form of high-def webcam video blogs from the Apostles themselves, it wouldn't particularly mean much.

Your great-great-great-grandparents could have sat down with Joseph Smith and talked about the Book of Mormon with him, and I'm old enough to have been able to talk with L. Ron Hubbard about Scientology, if we had ever been trapped in an elevator together. In fact, given the opportunity, I could go talk to Stephen King today about his books, and verify that the current text, as published, is consistent with his intent.

And what would that mean?
-harry
 
This has been a fun thread, with a ton of drift... Just a comment or three...

Early sailors, at least the more alert among them like the Captains, knew (at least in their gut) that the world was round because they could see the ships sailing away from them sinking over the edge of the ball - like sighting at a fly walking over a cannon ball which had to be a common experience - the hull sinking lower and lower and disappearing as it went away while the rigging stayed the same relative height above the deck - thus they knew it was not a trick of perspective of just getting smaller with distance...

Sail ho, came the cry from aloft, with the sailor pointing the direction to the enemy ship...
The captain looking up would call, how far?
Hull down, would come the reply, meaning that the hull could not be seen over the curvature of the ocean only the masts and rigging being visible...
Knowing that the captain could readily estimate the distance and decide if he should run or get ready to fight...

Not only is the world round, it is VERY round...
Lets say you are treading water with your eye 1 foot above the water - the horizon is just 2.3 miles away!
Jeez, most of the local lakes are farther across than that...

When watching small boat races on the Great Lakes in calm conditions I have often had the interesting sight of a sailor standing in a 14 foot boat with 6 inches of freeboard, appearing to be standing on nothing and cut off at the knees by the curvature of the water, while the rest of him is sharp and clearly in view - I can see the creases in his jacket with my binoculars...



OK, lets discuss "the center of the universe"... Of course, I am at the center of the universe - psychologically at least... But the physicists who believe in a closed universe also agree with me - I AM at the center of the universe... The reason is that in a closed universe all distant points are equally distant from each other... So, the person, say 14 Billion light years away from me, who is located right at the edge of the universe from my perspective looks out and sees the universe stretching out from him, 14 Billion light years in every direction, i.e. HE is at the center of the universe, not me, and I am way over here at the edge...

Now, I know that the closed universe theory is wrong and I know that the Big Bang Theory is wrong...
What!, you say throwing down your standard textbook on Cosmology in exasperation... What are you talking about, they teach those two subjects every day at every university worthy of the name...
Of course they do, I reply calmly...
Well why in tarnation would they do that if those theories are, as you claim, wrong?
Because they don't know how the universe actually works and they have to teach something or we can't even have a beginning discussion about the universe if we don't start at some common point... Tis better to teach a wrong theory than to have no theory to talk about...

denny-o
 
steingar said:
Your fair must be really awful. At our State Fair (just a short drive from my house) you don't set in any manure ever, unless you walk into the stalls, which you aren't supposed to do.

I won 4 ribbons this year.
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It pretty much sucks, imo, compared to other state fairs I've been to (Minnesota).
 
Surprised as well. We go to the Ohio State fair every year, like I said its right down the street. I've been entering crafts in it the last few, and I get a ribbon or two just about every year. This year was even more fun, because we got to hear a concert from this great Mexican band. People were dancing and singing, and it was a really good time. I tried to post up some photos of the stuff for which I won awards, but it took forever to upload them and I ran out of patience.
 
steingar said:
Surprised as well. We go to the Ohio State fair every year, like I said its right down the street. I've been entering crafts in it the last few, and I get a ribbon or two just about every year. This year was even more fun, because we got to hear a concert from this great Mexican band. People were dancing and singing, and it was a really good time. I tried to post up some photos of the stuff for which I won awards, but it took forever to upload them and I ran out of patience.
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A buckeye is nothing but a noxious nut that no one likes. :)
 
steingar said:
Your fair must be really awful. At our State Fair (just a short drive from my house) you don't set in any manure ever, unless you walk into the stalls, which you aren't supposed to do.

I won 4 ribbons this year.
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What kind of crafts?

The best part about fairs (and growing up in Erie County, we had our pick of several within 30 minutes of driving) is the food. Oh my.
 
Nothing like a fried Milky-way bar covered in chocolate sauce and powdered sugar.

This year I got a first and a second for Origami earrings in the jewelry category, and a second for a piece of Judaica in a holiday display category. My talented spouse got two blue ribbons for a couple sweaters, and a third for a felted bag.

The funniest was that I didn't get a ribbon in the Origami category (there is one). I put in a really high end dragon that took two weeks to fold. Another very talented local folder and designer put in a dragon created from hand-made paper that was real masterpiece. The blue ribbon went to a colleague of mine who made a display of simple models made from wrapping paper. She apologized to me later on.
 
steingar said:
Nothing like a fried Milky-way bar covered in chocolate sauce and powdered sugar.

This year I got a first and a second for Origami earrings in the jewelry category, and a second for a piece of Judaica in a holiday display category. My talented spouse got two blue ribbons for a couple sweaters, and a third for a felted bag.

The funniest was that I didn't get a ribbon in the Origami category (there is one). I put in a really high end dragon that took two weeks to fold. Another very talented local folder and designer put in a dragon created from hand-made paper that was real masterpiece. The blue ribbon went to a colleague of mine who made a display of simple models made from wrapping paper. She apologized to me later on.
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urgh. I was thinking of more mundane things like funnel cakes, and hand-pulled taffy (right in front of you - buy it warm...). Also handmade candy apples - cinnamon flavored candy coating, not cherry.

you should put photos of your crafts online here!
 
woodstock said:
urgh. I was thinking of more mundane things like funnel cakes, and hand-pulled taffy (right in front of you - buy it warm...). Also handmade candy apples - cinnamon flavored candy coating, not cherry.

you should put photos of your crafts online here!
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I tried, but it took forever to upload, and I am not made of patience. I'll try to bring a couple pieces to a fly-in some time.
 
steingar said:
I tried, but it took forever to upload, and I am not made of patience. I'll try to bring a couple pieces to a fly-in some time.
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Resize the pictures first. The server has plenty of bandwidth. No reason to upload anything huge -- something less than a megabyte will go pretty fast and be plenty high res.
 
jesse said:
Resize the pictures first. The server has plenty of bandwidth. No reason to upload anything huge -- something less than a megabyte will go pretty fast and be plenty high res.
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Been there, done that, still no joy. Next time, perhaps.
 
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