Private Pilot banned From Airport KCVN

paflyer said:
Well of course he did. Tell him to meet you at the slam, bring the media with you and make an event out of it.
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Headline: "SCANDAL AND DISPUTE AT LOCAL AIRPORT"

Reader reaction: "Wait, what... we have an airport? Since when?"
 
DaleB said:
Headline: "SCANDAL AND DISPUTE AT LOCAL AIRPORT"

Reader reaction: "Wait, what... we have an airport? Since when?"
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Reader second reaction: "That airport (that I just learned about) is a noise nuisance and a hazard...lets close it down."
 
And when they aren't complaining about the noise from that "new" airport they are going to talk about how silly it is that all those rich old white guys are making a fuss.
 
With an ILS, the airport undoubtedly accepted federal money. If so, you might be able to file a complaint with the FAA that they are discriminating against you.
 
Lots of bad advice here. Ignoring the ban and threatening the airport sponsor will do little more that paint the picture of you as a nut job and solidify the sponsor's case for having you banned. Seek legal advice before ignoring the ban and potentially facing trespassing charges.
 
Brad Z said:
Lots of bad advice here. Ignoring the ban and threatening the airport sponsor will do little more that paint the picture of you as a nut job and solidify the sponsor's case for having you banned. Seek legal advice before ignoring the ban and potentially facing trespassing charges.
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His lawyer should be down at the courthouse asking for a show cause order.
 
any updates on this situation?
 
So...what happened...I clicked the link to the article and it wasn't working.
 
It would be nice to know what is happening or what happened.

Civil suit pending...
Ban overturned...
City hall mysteriously burned down...

Whatever it is throw us a bone :)
 
jaybee said:
It would be nice to know what is happening or what happened.

Civil suit pending...
Ban overturned...
City hall mysteriously burned down...

Whatever it is throw us a bone :)
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Maybe his attorney said, "Stop talking about it on public websites!"
 
The Op really needs to run for Mayor of the city. Imagine if that were to happen...and he won!
 
I found this in a search of the Albuquerque Journal Web site. This was published a couple of months before the order to stay off airport property.

Pilot unhappy with city taking over fuel sales
By Kevin Wilson / Clovis News Journal, N.M. (TNS)
Monday, August 8th, 2016 at 8:29am
ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. — Some pilots housing planes at Clovis Municipal Airport plan to buy their fuel elsewhere next week — not out of necessity, but because they’re upset that the city of Clovis is effectively taking over fuel sales from a private business.

The city plans to take over fuel operations from Blue Sky Aviation, with Monday the final day of a 60-day termination notice sent by the city on June 9.

The letter, sent from City Attorney David Richards, notes that Clovis Municipal Airport and the city have exclusive rights to sell fuel there.

“The city administration has chosen to exercise its exclusive … privilege to assume full control of these services 60 days from the date of this letter,” the letter reads. “This action is being instituted, in part, because of out of compliance equipment (tanks, self-service pump, and fuel trucks), service issues and achievement of self-sustainability for the airport.”

The letter notes the city also has an interest in purchasing Blue Sky’s building, along with any equipment “in current compliance with all applicable standards.”

City Manager Larry Fry directed questions on the matter to Richards. To Richards’ knowledge, the city does have employees trained to dispense fuel, and a pair of new fuel trucks housed at the airport are under lease.

Robert Thorn of Clovis, who has had a plane hangar at the airport since 2010, said he believes the city’s concerns are overblown and it just wants to profit off of the infrastructure and customer base Blue Sky built.

“My first concern,” Thorn said, “is that the city is coming in and taking a private business’ main source of income away from them, and then offers to buy the building from them after revoking its main way to make money. If I was one of the businesses on the airport, I’d be very concerned.”

Thorn added that it’s suspicious the city doesn’t have the money to build hangars with a wait list of 28, but has no problem finding money to purchase Blue Sky. He sent an email to the city commission and Mayor David Lansford on Monday requesting an investigation, and said Friday he hadn’t heard back from anybody.

An attempt to contact Blue Sky owner Ronald Byrd was unsuccessful. On Friday afternoon, Blue Sky Manager Carlos Arias said, “I’m going to show up to work and continue to serve our pilots,” and otherwise declined comment on the matter.

The commission had a pair of executive sessions Thursday — the first on property acquisition or disposal or personnel matters and the second on threatened litigation.

Richards said only the second executive session covered the airport, noting, “No legal action has been initiated; there is no tort claim.”​

https://www.abqjournal.com/822127/pilot-unhappy-with-city-taking-over-fuel-sales.html
 
Palmpilot said:
I found this in a search of the Albuquerque Journal Web site. This was published a couple of months before the order to stay off airport property.

Pilot unhappy with city taking over fuel sales
By Kevin Wilson / Clovis News Journal, N.M. (TNS)
Monday, August 8th, 2016 at 8:29am
ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. — Some pilots housing planes at Clovis Municipal Airport plan to buy their fuel elsewhere next week — not out of necessity, but because they’re upset that the city of Clovis is effectively taking over fuel sales from a private business.

The city plans to take over fuel operations from Blue Sky Aviation, with Monday the final day of a 60-day termination notice sent by the city on June 9.

The letter, sent from City Attorney David Richards, notes that Clovis Municipal Airport and the city have exclusive rights to sell fuel there.

“The city administration has chosen to exercise its exclusive … privilege to assume full control of these services 60 days from the date of this letter,” the letter reads. “This action is being instituted, in part, because of out of compliance equipment (tanks, self-service pump, and fuel trucks), service issues and achievement of self-sustainability for the airport.”

The letter notes the city also has an interest in purchasing Blue Sky’s building, along with any equipment “in current compliance with all applicable standards.”

City Manager Larry Fry directed questions on the matter to Richards. To Richards’ knowledge, the city does have employees trained to dispense fuel, and a pair of new fuel trucks housed at the airport are under lease.

Robert Thorn of Clovis, who has had a plane hangar at the airport since 2010, said he believes the city’s concerns are overblown and it just wants to profit off of the infrastructure and customer base Blue Sky built.

“My first concern,” Thorn said, “is that the city is coming in and taking a private business’ main source of income away from them, and then offers to buy the building from them after revoking its main way to make money. If I was one of the businesses on the airport, I’d be very concerned.”

Thorn added that it’s suspicious the city doesn’t have the money to build hangars with a wait list of 28, but has no problem finding money to purchase Blue Sky. He sent an email to the city commission and Mayor David Lansford on Monday requesting an investigation, and said Friday he hadn’t heard back from anybody.

An attempt to contact Blue Sky owner Ronald Byrd was unsuccessful. On Friday afternoon, Blue Sky Manager Carlos Arias said, “I’m going to show up to work and continue to serve our pilots,” and otherwise declined comment on the matter.

The commission had a pair of executive sessions Thursday — the first on property acquisition or disposal or personnel matters and the second on threatened litigation.

Richards said only the second executive session covered the airport, noting, “No legal action has been initiated; there is no tort claim.”​

https://www.abqjournal.com/822127/pilot-unhappy-with-city-taking-over-fuel-sales.html
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Talk about government run amuck.
 
Similar things happened in my town where I grew up. A developer built a large mall just outside of the city jurisdiction in the county, mostly to avoid the higher taxes in the city. The city waited until the development was finished and tenants moved it, and then tried to annex the land. They had to put it up to a vote, but came up with all sorts of bs reasons it was necessary. Vote failed, but it always seemed like politicians were trying to settle some private grudge with the developers.
 
Grum.Man said:
Can you really be banned from a tax payer owned entity? Maybe you should do a relentless amount of missed approaches just to keep them on their toes.
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Only with due process . . .

Which means a hearing, right to present witnesses and obtain 'evidence' against you -

The mere fact of simply 'banning' you without that is a civil rights violation actionable with the recovery of attorneys fees as damages - at a minimum.
 
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Apologies I haven't posted any updates in a while. I've been allowed back on the airport although it's been a little rocky as I've been accused of loitering several times. Apparently hanging out on the airport prior to or after a flight is not acceptable if you're me!
 
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