Prison survival kit

Convict says "That's not my brand. You should try Kama Sutra Love Liquid."
 
Love it!
Of course somebody will complain saying that he hurt the convict's feelings
 
Since he shot a cop he’ll get to be the daddy in prison. Prolly have his choice...
 
Some folks will say, oh Mr. Rojas was such a nice young man. He just had an off day.
 
Killing a cop probably gives him prison creds. He may be using that KY in a different manner than the cop intended. Now if he had been convicted of abusing a child...
 
Mr Rojas obviously had the wrong lawyer. He should've hired the firm in my hometown...

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SkyDog58 said:
That’s a gross perversion of the “innocent until proven guilty” tenet of our judicial system.
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C'mon dog... We've known for decades that OJ was "Not Guilty" but not "Innocent." No news here.
 
Perhaps a bit tacky on the cops part. I get the anger, but I think being in the LE world you should at least keep a public face of professionalism.
 
falconkidding said:
Perhaps a bit tacky on the cops part. I get the anger, but I think being in the LE world you should at least keep a public face of professionalism.
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Funny you mention “public face” as the cop was shot in the face by the guy.
 
falconkidding said:
Perhaps a bit tacky on the cops part. I get the anger, but I think being in the LE world you should at least keep a public face of professionalism.
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This. The cop should actually get some type of demerit.

A sentence to prison should not be a sentence to physical attacks. There are people in prison for non-violent offenses who are abused and that is not a funny or amusing problem in today’s judicial system.
 
PeterNSteinmetz said:
This. The cop should actually get some type of demerit.

A sentence to prison should not be a sentence to physical attacks. There are people in prison for non-violent offenses who are abused and that is not a funny or amusing problem in today’s judicial system.
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You sure seem out there Peter...but you keep sticking those daisy’s in the rifle barrels while repeating “police officers are not human beings”.
 
tawood said:
You sure seem out there Peter...but you keep sticking those daisy’s in the rifle barrels while repeating “police officers are not human beings”.
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Peter probably hasn't been shot in the face by a coward though.
 
I’ve a nephew in the State Pen. He didn’t mention anything about it when I went to see him. Said it was boring, that he read a lot and that the food was making him fat.
 
tawood said:
I don’t know about that, but I’m thinking that Peter believes the cop shouldn’t take it so personal when he was shot in the face.
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I don't think anyone is faulting the cop for being angry, but rather just noting that when you are part of LE that his action doesn't reflect the best image. Someone whos job is to uphold the law basically going haha your going to get raped insinuates that instead of upholding the law they are the law.
 
falconkidding said:
I don't think anyone is faulting the cop for being angry, but rather just noting that when you are part of LE that his action doesn't reflect the best image. Someone whos job is to uphold the law basically going haha your going to get raped insinuates that instead of upholding the law they are the law.
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Agreed. And I’m sure he’ll be facing some kind of light discipline for it. I’m also sure he doesn’t care that he’s facing some discipline and in his shoes i can’t blame him
 
Giving a victim's statement as a victim vs making a statement as a cop. When the victim is a cop, it's tough to separate the two.
 
As far as I’m concerned all I would have done differently was giving the douchbag the ky in open court. Save that interaction for the hallway outside court. Just my opinion. Not like it matters. I wasn’t the guy that was shot in the face. I wouldn’t have initiated the traffic stop with my kid in the car either.
 
tawood said:
You sure seem out there Peter...but you keep sticking those daisy’s in the rifle barrels while repeating “police officers are not human beings”.
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Wow. Did I ever say any of these things? I don’t think so, but please feel free to quote where I did if I am mistaken.

Sort of ironic to comment about daisys in rifle barrels given that I am a reasonably well known gun rights activist.
 
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tawood said:
I don’t know about that, but I’m thinking that Peter believes the cop shouldn’t take it so personal when he was shot in the face.
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No actually I think people should take it quite personally when they are shot or even have loaded weapons pointed at them.

I also think that LEOs, by virtue of their position in society, should take their ability to legally use physical violence quite seriously and shouldn’t be making fun of people being assaulted while serving their sentence. It presents a very non-professional image which is likely to destroy the trust which citizens have placed in them.
 
tawood said:
Agreed. And I’m sure he’ll be facing some kind of light discipline for it. I’m also sure he doesn’t care that he’s facing some discipline and in his shoes i can’t blame him
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And therein probably lies a difference in attitude, also reflected by “whatever”. The fact that LEOs think “hey whatever, I can get away with making fun of citizen’s being assaulted and won’t face any drastic consequences that I care about”, is in essence how LEOs lose the trust of their communities. It strikes people as being an attitude of entitlement and being above the law.
 
PeterNSteinmetz said:
And therein probably lies a difference in attitude, also reflected by “whatever”. The fact that LEOs think “hey whatever, I can get away with making fun of citizen’s being assaulted and won’t face any drastic consequences that I care about”, is in essence how LEOs lose the trust of their communities. It strikes people as being an attitude of entitlement and being above the law.
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You’re assuming too much by my “whatever”. And what law did this officer break?
 
PeterNSteinmetz said:
Wow. Did I ever say any of these things? I don’t think so, but please feel free to quote where I did if I am mistaken.

Sort of ironic to comment about daisys in rifle barrels given that I am a reasonably well known gun rights activist.
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The irony was intentional as I was already aware of what you’ve done.
And although I’m also a second amendment activist, I consider actions like the stunts you pull as being counter productive.
 
tawood said:
You’re assuming too much by my “whatever”. And what law did this officer break?
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It appears the original traffic stop was legal (if perhaps ill-advised with son in the car) and the officer was fully justified in using lethal force in response to the attack (as would any citizen). The shooter committed a very serious crime and I would agree the sentence is reasonable.

I don’t know exactly the law governing police conduct in court. Probably his conduct could be considered a form of contempt if the judge were so inclined. If it were a normal citizen speaking out in a public space in such a manner, I think it would fall under the doctrine of free speech. So I don’t know that the officer violated any law per se.

But LEOs are usually held to a higher standard when appearing in public in their official capacity. And I do think his behavior, while not outright illegal, reflects poorly on him and his department. It strikes one as vindictive and advocating that the convict be the victim of further crimes. Is that the sort of thing we want LEOs advocating?
 
tawood said:
The irony was intentional as I was already aware of what you’ve done.
And although I’m also a second amendment activist, I consider actions like the stunts you pull as being counter productive.
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Well that could be an interesting discussion of tactics, though one that has been extensively discussed on forums like opencarry.org. If you like to continue that, feel free to start a new thread an PM me a pointer to it. It sounds like we would disagree on the issue of effectiveness.
 
tawood said:
The irony was intentional as I was already aware of what you’ve done.
And although I’m also a second amendment activist, I consider actions like the stunts you pull as being counter productive.
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Well that could be an interesting discussion of tactics, though one that has been extensively discussed on forums like opencarry.org. If you like to continue that, feel free to start a new thread and PM me a pointer to it. It sounds like we would disagree on the issue of effectiveness.

Have you read my piece about open carry at https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/2014/11/22/open-carry-sky-harbor-airport/19344603/
 
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