Press Release – FAA Announces Small UAS Registration Rule

Do they actually expect most people to bother?
 
Oh man. This is gonna be a pain. Won't do anything to promote safety either.
 
cowman said:
Do they actually expect most people to bother?
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I don't think most people will know it's even there. IMO most people that buy drones leave the store and start flying. I just bought a DJI phantom for my son, and there's very little information that comes with it. I did see something about flying safe, but I don't think the average drone pilot is up to speed on potential safety issues.
 
cowman said:
Do they actually expect most people to bother?
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Manufacturers are expected to sell 400,000 of these units this year, do we expect the FAA to chase each and every one? hell no, but do we expect to see fines on the ones that create any accident?
and remember the rule says you must be 13 to register the drone.
 
I'm waiting to see a video of some inspector making a little kid cry while "ramp checking" his RC airplane.


Improve safety with the part 23 rewrite, nope
Get the ball rolling on the new PBOR, nope
Harass RC airplanes, great use of time!

Good job government :rofl:
 
James331 said:
I'm waiting to see a video of some inspector making a little kid cry while "ramp checking" his RC airplane.


Improve safety with the part 23 rewrite, nope
Get the ball rolling on the new PBOR, nope
Harass RC airplanes, great use of time!

Good job government :rofl:
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+1. Only thing this will do, is it'll make it easier to find the owner after its struck a manned aircraft. By then it's too late.
 
At least the FAA is taking a stand and basically saying that if you want to fly a UAV anywhere and everywhere, then you're an aviator and if you want to aviate then you got to follow the rules just like everyone else. As much as these individuals would like to think that the airspace above them and around them is their private playground - it's not. All it will take is for one of these UAVs to bring down an aircraft full of passengers and none of this will be fun and games anymore. Unfortunately, more than few regulations are literally written in blood. Hope that won't be the case here.
 
So what's the penalty for flying unregistered....?
 
Hmm, how many UAS aircraft operating in the US today? At $5 per registration every 3 years? Me thinks the FAA just got a pretty good cash infusion.
 
I doubt if the cost of registration even covers the admin cost of this program. Another consideration is are there serial numbers or unique N number type registration. Just another government intrusion.
 
I noted in the FAQ that they suggested if you don't have a scale you can use sticks of butter as a measure...
 
Drones are not being registered, operators are.

You give them your name, address, and email and you get an operator number your supposed to write on the device somewhere.

No limit to the number of drones you can own, they don't even ask about them.
 
Velocity173 said:
Hmm, how many UAS aircraft operating in the US today? At $5 per registration every 3 years? Me thinks the FAA just got a pretty good cash infusion.
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And that is for sure what this is about since registration is not going to stop someone from buying one and flying it unregistered - or registering it and using it for the wrong thing. Stupid as anything I've heard of from the FAA.
 
Velocity173 said:
Oh man. This is gonna be a pain. Won't do anything to promote safety either.
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What do you mean it won't promote safety? I expect the number of aircraft accidents involving drones will drop to zero almost right away.:wink2:
 
Maxed-out said:
Unfortunately, more than few regulations are literally written in blood. Hope that won't be the case here.
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That's definitely not the case here, since no one's died because of an unregistered drone. This is just regulation for the sake of regulation.
 
Velocity173 said:
Oh man. This is gonna be a pain. Won't do anything to promote safety either.
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well, they are collecting email addresses, so i presume they'll be spamming the slobs.

Still, with hundreds of thousands of drones being bought this winter, i have a hard time believing they'll get many to sign up. I wonder if they would require companies to put a flyer inside the box about registration.
 
Lindberg said:
That's definitely not the case here, since no one's died because of an unregistered drone. This is just regulation for the sake of regulation.
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Can't figure some of you out... If it hasn't happened yet you say don't do it as its a non issue.

After it does happen you say the Feds are morons and not proactive, as they only respond after the accident.
 
Inevitable, if you didn't see this coming you're blind but hey, it's FREE for the first 30 days. YaY!!!
 
The self boarding sheeple are in a panic over drones taking down the aluminum tube THEY happen to be riding.
This is your democracy at work. Your congress critter can primp and preen in front of the TV cameras as he solemnly announces that HE has made it safe for civilization as we know it - and your drunken escapades in Cancun :D and to remember to vote for his reelection.
 
Dav8or said:
Hey, if it allows them to put off user fees, I'm all for it!! :yes:
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My brother is a controller and he was joking that he's sees a pay raise in his future! Even if they get, say a million from this first registration next year, it won't amount to squat in the big picture.
 
So I wonder what would happen if ALL - or nearly so - of the drone people simply refused to register.
 
RyanShort1 said:
So I wonder what would happen if ALL - or nearly so - of the drone people simply refused to register.
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Probably be fined $5 for each offense. Either that or arrested and thrown into the country's most violent prisons.
 
Kritchlow said:
Can't figure some of you out... If it hasn't happened yet you say don't do it as its a non issue.

After it does happen you say the Feds are morons and not proactive, as they only respond after the accident.
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Yeah sure. Find a post where I said that.
 
Silvaire said:
Inevitable, if you didn't see this coming you're blind but hey, it's FREE for the first 30 days. YaY!!!
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Considering how quickly this was thrown together, I think the FAA is in a panic.
 
RyanShort1 said:
So I wonder what would happen if ALL - or nearly so - of the drone people simply refused to register.
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I think very few of them will even know this regulation exists.

I also think it's virtually unenforceable.
 
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If you like your drone, you can keep your drone.
 
RyanShort1 said:
And that is for sure what this is about since registration is not going to stop someone from buying one and flying it unregistered - or registering it and using it for the wrong thing. Stupid as anything I've heard of from the FAA.
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Enforcement will stop it. Many of the comments related to the rule dealt with who would enforce it. The FAA has yet to set the formal penalties for an infraction, but quotes this in the rule -

To mitigate risks in the NAS and ensure compliance FAA has used and will continue to
use outreach and education to encourage compliance with regulatory requirements that pertain to
the registration of unmanned aircraft. The FAA may also use administrative action or legal
enforcement action to gain compliance. Failure to register an aircraft can result in civil penalties
up to $27,500. Criminal penalties for failure to register can include fines of up to $250,000 under
18 U.S.C. 3571 and/or imprisonment up to 3 years. 49 U.S.C. 46306.
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There are ways, but it's still being hashed out. If you haven't read the document, it's worth taking a look at. It's is a work in progress. All the answers aren't there yet.

https://www.faa.gov/news/updates/media/20151213_IFR.pdf
 
This is stupid. I guess I'll be painting fake somebody else's numbers on all my model aircraft.
 
I read the rules...these toys are getting N-numbers. FAA will be out of N-numbers in three months.
 
bflynn said:
Enforcement will stop it. Many of the comments related to the rule dealt with who would enforce it. The FAA has yet to set the formal penalties for an infraction, but quotes this in the rule -
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I don't think the FAA even comes close to having the budget and manpower it would take to adequately educate people about and meaningfully enforce this rule. Same reason the "Do not Call" list is not being meaningfully enforced.

...It's is a work in progress. All the answers aren't there yet.
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No kidding!
 
bullwinkle said:
I read the rules...these toys are getting N-numbers. FAA will be out of N-numbers in three months.
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I believe drones used commercially will get N numbers. Recreation/Hobbyist will have their own numbering system.

http://www.faa.gov/uas/registration/faqs/#mou

Q. Will my drone require an N-number or sticker?
A. No. You will receive a unique registration number, not an N-number, and you must mark the registration number on your UAS by some means that is legible and allows the number to be readily seen. The registration number may be placed in a battery compartment as long as it can be accessed without the use of tools.
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What this is going to be is something to use to go after a drone operator after an accident happens. Nobody is going to check and very few will even look at the little notice in the box that says they're supposed to register their shiny new toy.
 
ainokea said:
I believe drones used commercially will get N numbers. Recreation/Hobbyist will have their own numbering system.

http://www.faa.gov/uas/registration/faqs/#mou
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Ah, the FAA site was unclear on that point. They said registered UAS would receive N-numbers. Maybe they only meant commercial registrations.

Problem solved...FAA won't run out of N-numbers for a full year! :D
 
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