Premier 1 driver reported to FAA by "pilot"

Everskyward said:
I think the media gives the public what it wants in order to pump up numbers for ad revenue. It may reinforce views the public already had (conformation bias), but I don't think it changes many minds.
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(dangerous ground so I'll try to be careful) For sure and for certain, people use the media to try to influence others (think PR campaigns)
 
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Bob Noel said:
(dangerous ground so I'll try to be careful) For sure and for certain, people use the media to try to influence others (think PR campaigns)
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Key word is TRY. When I hear too much of what I don't want to hear, I turn it off.
 
Everskyward said:
I think the media gives the public what it wants in order to pump up numbers for ad revenue. It may reinforce views the public already had (conformation bias), but I don't think it changes many minds.
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Bob Noel said:
(dangerous ground so I'll try to be careful) For sure and for certain, people use the media to try to influence others (think PR campaigns)
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Everskyward said:
Key word is TRY. When I hear too much of what I don't want to hear, I turn it off.
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Bob Noel said:
does everyone do that?
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Everskyward said:
From observation, I'm guessing most do.
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It's a question of saturation. If you hear something enough times, frequently enough, it starts to sound true, even if it's not. Especially if you start hearing things at a young age... an age where you automatically think your parents and their generation are not near as intelligent as your newly-discovered college-educated self.
 
MuseChaser said:
It's a question of saturation. If you hear something enough times, frequently enough, it starts to sound true, even if it's not. Especially if you start hearing things at a young age... an age where you automatically think your parents and their generation are not near as intelligent as your newly-discovered college-educated self.
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Not to me. When I hear something I disagree with over and over on the news, or even being nagged by people I know, I turn it/them off.

Been happening a lot lately.
 
Everskyward said:
Not to me. When I hear something I disagree with over and over on the news, or even being nagged by people I know, I turn it/them off.

Been happening a lot lately.
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Me too. My guesses are that..

1. We are both past our early 20s.
2. The people that are nagging us aren't our closest friends. Close friends usually don't nag, but rather hold discussions that start from a place of mutual respect.
 
MuseChaser said:
Me too. My guesses are that..

1. We are both past our early 20s.
2. The people that are nagging us aren't our closest friends. Close friends usually don't nag, but rather hold discussions that start from a place of mutual respect.
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Way past my early 20s, but I might have been even more of a contrarian then.

The person who nags the most is a relative who is a few years older. We were not close growing up because, at that time, we lived on opposite sides of the country. I don't know what it is about people you are related to, but it's almost like you feel freer to chastise them than you would to chastise a friend who is not related to you.
 
Everskyward said:
Way past my early 20s, but I might have been even more of a contrarian then.

The person who nags the most is a relative who is a few years older. We were not close growing up because, at that time, we lived on opposite sides of the country. I don't know what it is about people you are related to, but it's almost like you feel freer to chastise them than you would to chastise a friend who is not related to you.
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Lol.. yeah, I left family out. That's different.. unfortunately. I don't discuss politics with my adult kids... or here.. ;)

The whole "kid" thing is an interesting phenomena.. pardon the thread drift.. just curious if others here experience the same thing.

Generally speaking, most previous generations grew up trying not to be cut off from their family/parents... we may not have agreed with them, we may not have had the respect for them they deserved (until we got old enough to understand what they sacrificed for us), but we certainly didn't want to do anything that would cause THEM to disown US. That's the way I felt as a kid, and throughout my adult life

NOW... many of us have our own adult kids. NOW... the "fear" or concern is STILL on us.. we are concerned that THEY might remove themselves from or disown US. Our kids, for whatever reasons, don't seem to have the same need to be connected to their parents and family as we did, nor worried about doing, or not doing, things their parents would approve of. I'm making that statement personally, but I think it's systemic at least to a certain degree. I'd be happy to discuss weighty political matters with my adult children, but there's no point in doing so unless they valued or respected our opinions in the first place. Just for reference, my wife and I both have advanced degrees, and so do two out of three of our children. The one without the college education is actually more open to discussion.

I hope that makes sense.
 
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Everskyward said:
I don't know what it is about people you are related to, but it's almost like you feel freer to chastise them than you would to chastise a friend who is not related to you
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Family is a guarantee though.. saying "free" is a good way to put it.. you don't need as much filter. With non related friends there's always that threat that you could permanently burn that bridge, or at least drift apart. With family you always have that "but we'll always be brothers" card.. or something else cheesy like that
 
Looks like he pulled the video down.
 
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Tantalum said:
Family is a guarantee though.. saying "free" is a good way to put it.. you don't need as much filter. With non related friends there's always that threat that you could permanently burn that bridge, or at least drift apart. With family you always have that "but we'll always be brothers" card.. or something else cheesy like that
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Not always. In the five or so years since my Father passed away I have not communicated with my brother. Don’t miss it either. When my Daughter was a minor, a best friend and his family were designated custodians in my will. I have never felt that family comes with privileges of abuse.
 
That means he just changed it to unlisted. So anyone who has the link can see it.
 
Seems like disabling the comment section would go a long way to self-limiting a lot of these clashes. Of course for those who are looking for social reaffirmation, that may be a bridge too far. I guess one-way media wouldn't be social media lol.
 
hindsight2020 said:
Seems like disabling the comment section would go a long way to self-limiting a lot of these clashes. Of course for those who are looking for social reaffirmation, that may be a bridge too far. I guess one-way media wouldn't be social media lol.
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Sort of like POA only allowing the first post in a thread. ;)

But I sometimes read the comments section on news articles, and I can see why eliminating comments is often a good thing, especially when it's something viewable to the general public.
 
On the next episode of "As the Prop Turns": A student pilot gets testy when a jet pilot bungles his radio calls, will the FAA throw the proverbial FAR/AIM at him? Tune in to find out.
 
GRG55 said:
I suppose that would depend on whether you thought the media exerts any influence over the public, or not. ;)
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Actually it would depend on whether you thought the media was a for-profit enterprise or not. And to a smaller extent whether you yourself have had the success or failure of a for-profit enterprise depend on your business model decisions.
 
Wait until drone pilots start criticizing radio calls or stick & rudder skills.
 
Challenged said:
On the next episode of "As the Prop Turns": A student pilot gets testy when a jet pilot bungles his radio calls, will the FAA throw the proverbial FAR/AIM at him? Tune in to find out.
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It will definitely create a dent on the jet pilot if they throw the actual FAR/AIM book at him... ;)
 
Timbeck2 said:
Then you're not gonna date my daughter for sure! :mad:
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No worries. My wife (of almost 47 years) would stop me long before you ever got to make the call. Not to mention your daughter probably not being interested, either. :p
 
Juliet Hotel said:
Actually it would depend on whether you thought the media was a for-profit enterprise or not. And to a smaller extent whether you yourself have had the success or failure of a for-profit enterprise depend on your business model decisions.
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Don't understand what for-profit or not-for-profit has to do with it.
The question at hand is whether media influences the public (my view) or whether the public influences the media (your view). Maybe it's some of both, or a symbiotic constructive/destructive relationship? But whether that media is NPR, for profit network TV, new age Google, Facebook, Twitter or whatever Gen X,Y & Z use for their source of the week shouldn't matter.
 
You can't fix 'smartassness'. Jealousy and envy are even harder to fix.
 
Ghery said:
No worries. My wife (of almost 47 years) would stop me long before you ever got to make the call. Not to mention your daughter probably not being interested, either. :p
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I was talking to Ryan..sort of an inside joke between us.
 
I once called tower and reported my location 10 miles northeast of the field. Tower asked me to ident and then confirmed RADAR contact 10 miles *northwest* of the field. Discuss.
 
Lindberg said:
I once called tower and reported my location 10 miles northeast of the field. Tower asked me to ident and then confirmed RADAR contact 10 miles *northwest* of the field. Discuss.
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I'm calling the FAA and filing a complaint.
 
GRG55 said:
Don't understand what for-profit or not-for-profit has to do with it.
The question at hand is whether media influences the public (my view) or whether the public influences the media (your view). Maybe it's some of both, or a symbiotic constructive/destructive relationship? But whether that media is NPR, for profit network TV, new age Google, Facebook, Twitter or whatever Gen X,Y & Z use for their source of the week shouldn't matter.
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I'll agree to disagree. When your livelihood depends on having to be profitable, you will most definitely make decisions aimed at trying to understand what will attract and keep customers. When your livelihood doesn't depend on having to be profitable, pleasing your customers falls way down on the list if its on the list at all.

For profit media does what it does because doing so gets people to watch. They give the people what the people want because if they don't they cease to exist. Now people may well be influenced by what media they choose to consume, but I'm pretty sure the only influence media companies put actual effort into trying to have is to influence their audience to consume more of their product. My opinion only.
 
Juliet Hotel said:
I'll agree to disagree. When your livelihood depends on having to be profitable, you will most definitely make decisions aimed at trying to understand what will attract and keep customers. When your livelihood doesn't depend on having to be profitable, pleasing your customers falls way down on the list if its on the list at all.

For profit media does what it does because doing so gets people to watch. They give the people what the people want because if they don't they cease to exist. Now people may well be influenced by what media they choose to consume, but I'm pretty sure the only influence media companies put actual effort into trying to have is to influence their audience to consume more of their product. My opinion only.
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What the profit media does depends on where the money comes from and who controls the money. That's as far as I think I can go without getting outside the allowed bounds for POA.
 
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