portable radio?

Peter Ha

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Hey folks,
Flew twilight yesterday near dark and realize I need portable radio in case avionics fail.
What budget radio can student pilot buy that won't cost arm & leg (maybe just the arm)?
Will used ones work as well?
 
It's Bernoulli not Marconi that makes it fly :)

I bought an old Sporty's model for next to nothing off a boardie here. You don't need to get too elaborate if you want coms. As Midwest says, I use my phone and/or ipad as the navigational backup.
 
I have a Yaesu FT550. It works pretty well and costs around $200.

I've also been looking at Sporty's new PJ2 radio. Its also about $200.
 
I think a lot of pilots carry a lot of extraneous gear. That's why you see so many using a small duffle bag for a flight bag. I carry my cell phone in my pocket, my headset, an iPad if going somewhere, and a red headlamp if I may be out in the dark.

K - Keep
I - It
S - Simple
S - Stupid
:)
 
FTA-450... The best i have found and not to expensive. I have one in the Cub and Stearman for the Com.
Really you don't need a radio at all so why you need backup. LOL!
 
This kinda sounds like a main reason is to click on runway lights at night if ships comms go down? Otherwise not sure what night specifically has to do with it.
 
Look on Craig's list, there's usually someone willing to part with a handheld for $100 or less. I have never needed a handheld due to a comm failure, but they can be handy to listen to the ATIS and picking up your clearance before cranking up...
 
FTA-450... The best i have found and not to expensive. I have one in the Cub and Stearman for the Com.
Really you don't need a radio at all so why you need backup. LOL!
That really depends on the airspace you operate in. A backup radio in the Bravo could easily pay for itself if it meant you could get back to home base.
 
That really depends on the airspace you operate in. A backup radio in the Bravo could easily pay for itself if it meant you could get back to home base.
Yep, I've used a handheld to come in otherwise NORDO into Dulles. In fact, it was someone else's plane and handheld and the battery was near dead, so most of it was done with RECEIVE ONLY insturctions.
 
I've had a handheld radio for decades (first a King KX 99 and now a Yaesu 550). My 2 pieces of advice is make sure it comes with or buy a headset adapter if you buy a radio and don't count on using a cell phone as a backup in the air (I've actually tried this a couple of times and have never been able to get it to work although I was able to send a text -- once).
 
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I've had a handheld radio for decades (first a King KX 99 and now a Yaesu 550). My 2 pieces of advice is make sure it comes with or buy a headset adapter if you buy a radio and don't count on using a cell phone as a backup in the air (I've actually tried this a couple of times and have never been able to get it to work although I was able to send a text -- once).

Thanks for tip!
How far away were you able get reception on your 550?
And is the NAV functions useful?
 
If I were buying one now, I would get the Sporty's PJ2. It has headset jacks directly on the radio and the price is right. I don't know how good of a radio it is, but for a backup radio it would be nice not to have to fiddle with headset adapters in a dark cockpit.

You can't turn the pilot-controlled lights on with your cell phone, unless you can text or call someone who can turn them on for you. That gets less likely the farther from home you are. If you lose electrical power in your plane on a night cross-country, having a way to get the lights of some runway near you to turn on could make a big difference. Flying cross-country at night without a backup radio is a risk and, like all risks in flying, it's up to you to decide whether and to what extent you want to mitigate that risk.

Handheld radio capabilities seem to be more a function of the plane than the radio, in my experience. We have an ICOM A6 for the Cub. When we use it in the Cub, the radio's performance depends on which way you are facing. You may not be able to communicate with a plane that's in the pattern with you if it's in front of you, for example. But in the Champ, when I flew it to a Class D airport to get the radio repaired, I used the A6 and had no trouble communicating with Tower from the time I approached their airspace until the time I got to the tiedowns.

I did try using an external antenna for the radio. I found that it did not substantially improve the performance in the Cub, although I never did try mounting it vertically. The tedium of doing that wasn't worth it, so we are back to using the rubber-duck antenna that came with the radio.
 
Thanks for tip!
How far away were you able get reception on your 550?
And is the NAV functions useful?

Unfortunately, I've never tested the reception distance, COMM or NAV. It's my emergency-emergency backup for sure and Rob's advice on knowing how to use it before you need it is spot on if that's its intention. Having said that, although I know how to do it, I've never used the Nav functions in the air. Something maybe I'll play with on my next X/C later this month. The reason for this is I have 2 panel mounted NAV/COMMS, 1 IFR GPS, and 4 VFR GPS's (1 each in my EFIS screens, 1 in my ADS-B in receiver which feeds my EFB, and my phone). Soooo my handheld gets used mainly for listening to arrivals at Osh and Sun-n-Fun.
 
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I did try using an external antenna for the radio. I found that it did not substantially improve the performance in the Cub, although I never did try mounting it vertically. The tedium of doing that wasn't worth it, so we are back to using the rubber-duck antenna that came with the radio.

if you didn't mount the antenna vertically and ensure an adequate ground plane, I don't doubt it did not perform well. A properly installed antenna coupled with almost any handheld, would probably equal the performance of a panel mount com radio.
 
Reception distance is really dependent on the antenna. If all you will have is the little "rubber duckie" antenna that comes with the unit, reception will be limited but maybe ok for an emergency. What you need is a separate antenna and a connector wire in the cockpit to hook the antenna directly to the portable transceiver.

Note that your Sporty's link has a section where Sportys runs a test on range. Consider the amount of glass in the helicopter they used for the test. Then consider the amount of metal in and surrounding your cockpit versus the R-44 used as the test vehicle. Getting the same range that Sporty's did is unlikely.

I am not advising that you don't get the radio. I am just trying to adjust your expectations.

-Skip
 
if you didn't mount the antenna vertically and ensure an adequate ground plane, I don't doubt it did not perform well. A properly installed antenna coupled with almost any handheld, would probably equal the performance of a panel mount com radio.
The antenna I used is the flexible type intended for use in composite aircraft, which does not require a ground plane. Mounting it vertically probably would have made all the difference in the world, but like I said, the tedium of doing that wasn't worth it for the Cub. If the radio were more important to the flying we do in the Cub, I would put in the effort to find a safe place to vertically mount the antenna. But I would still expect a lot of interference from the magnetos.
 
I have the Yaesu FTA-250. It's 200 bucks and has a rechargeable battery. I have an old ICOM that I absolutely hate. I chose the 250 because it has a mechanical on/off switch as opposed to an electrical one. The battery lasts months in my bag since there is no parasitic drain which the ICOM had tons of. Performance seems to be as good as others and no complicated menus or memory junk to worry about. Just turn it on, punch in the frequency and talk/listen.
 
I did think of a tip for these radios that I think is worth knowing. The ICOM we have has an automatic weather alert feature. If the weather broadcast channels have an alert, it will automatically switch to that frequency so you can hear it. This feature sounds good in theory since it would alert me to tornadoes in my flight path, but in practice it's horrible and you should turn it off. Two reasons:

1. The way it checks the weather broadcast channels involves tuning itself to them once every 2 seconds or so, which means that you are constantly missing digits in the winds on AWOS.

2. At least once, my radio was overridden by a statewide Silver Alert broadcast on the weather channels. I was just flying along and suddenly got blasted with information about some grumpy guy 200 miles away who stormed out of his family's Thanksgiving dinner and whose family immediately overreacted even though he was probably just in a bar down the street. (I turned off all emergency alerts on my cell phone for the same reason. If there's a real emergency I can help you sort out, you'll need to find another way to contact me than crying "wolf" every night for fun.)
 
Very happy with my new-ish Yaesu FTA 550L (rechargeable, but also comes with a the adapter for AA batteries, so you get the best of both). I doubt I'll ever use the VOR nav feature, but I've tested it, and it seems to work. The sound is good, and things that are $$$ extra accessories with the iCOM, like headseet adapter, come bundled with the Yaesu.
 
Never carried one. My backup plan is a cell phone.
You must always fly low and in areas with good cell coverage. If so, then that makes sense. A cellphone wouldn't be a reliable backup for me, even over Upstate NY or Maine (much less in southern Ontario or Quebec). Over populated areas, I find I lose coverage as I fly higher—probably the defenses against cellphones left on in airliners start to kick in.
 
A cellphone is going to be very hit or miss with it mostly being a miss even down low. You also have the issue of being able to hear it over engine noise unless you have a Bluetooth headset. I bought the PJ2 as a backup because it’s extremely simple and easy to use. Simple and easy are the keys to a good outcome in a emergency. Headset adapters and multi featured radios were a non starter for me.
 
Never carried one. My backup plan is a cell phone.

Real world this.

Only thing I’ve used a handheld for was CFI initial solo, and I never really said anything anyways.
Two was talking to, or having other talk to me from the ground.
 
Best bet for long-term use is a handheld with a mechanical power switch. My old ICOM had such terrible parasitic drain that a fresh set of batteries were dead in a couple months. It had a power button on the front keypad. I'm sure newer models are better but regardless, something has to power that circuit and drain will always be present. My Yaesu 250 has a switch built into the volume knob and the rechargeable battery will last a very long time in my bag.
 
Most likely it's not a "parasitic" drain but rather the older radio has nicad packs that will self discharge. The later lion packs behave better in this regard. Still, there's nothing like the old AA pack and a nice unopened pack of AA alkaline cells.
 
Most likely it's not a "parasitic" drain but rather the older radio has nicad packs that will self discharge. The later lion packs behave better in this regard. Still, there's nothing like the old AA pack and a nice unopened pack of AA alkaline cells.
Lithium ion is still subject to self-discharge but not as bad as NiCd. I'd avoid alkaline batteries because they leak.

If it's something you'd use from time to time, go with low self-discharge NiMH like Eneloops. They can go idle a couple years before they self-discharge and need a recharge.

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If it's something you need for emergencies, go with Energizer Ultimate lithium primaries. Those have a shelf life of 20 years and they do not leak like alkaline batteries would.

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I recently bought a PJ2 and like it a lot. IMHO the biggest advantage over the Yaesu and Icom offerings is its simplicity. I like the built-in headset jacks, direct keypad frequency entry, active/standby frequency toggle, BNC antenna connector, USB external power or AA battery pack, and best of all no damn menus. I've had no problem communicating with just the rubber duck antenna as my airplane has a bubble canopy.

YMMV.
 
Most likely it's not a "parasitic" drain but rather the older radio has nicad packs that will self discharge. The later lion packs behave better in this regard. Still, there's nothing like the old AA pack and a nice unopened pack of AA alkaline cells.

My old ICOM uses AAs so no discharge like a rechargeable. If I keep the battery pack removed it lasts as long as any AA in storage. Connect the batteries to the radio and they're dead in a couple months. The circuit powering the electronic power switch kills them.
 
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