if someone gets a minor in possesion of alcohol and decides todo community service, go to an alcohol education class at the university student center, and pay 100 dolars of court fees in lieu of getting a conviction (higher fine and guilty of mip in record,but no class attended), ie the case was closed as no contest does he still need to disclose it on the medical even if it was 4 years before??? No motor vehicle was invovled in the incident and the subject has a clean record.
also, do you have to disclose that you complete a 6hr internet defensive driving course in order to lower a fine for a minor traffic ticket that was years ago?
I sure hope you are not the anon who posted in medical matters tonight.
The trouble with having a record is determining which truth is appropriate.
Here is the queston:
"History of (1) any arrest(s) and/or conviction(s) involving driving while intoxicated by, while impaired by, or while under the influence of alcohol or a drug; or (2) history of any arrest(s), and/or conviction(s) and/or administrative action(s) involving an offense(s) which resulted in the denial, suspension, cancellation, or revocation of driving priveleges or whcih resulted in attendance at an education or a rehabilitation program."
So your hoping that the things you describe are not:
"(1) an administrative action that resulted in your taking an internet educational program" and that it is not (1) an administrative action that resulted in you attending a university education program".
I think getting required to give evidence of "an accredited internet educational course" and going to a "university alcohol education program" in lieu, is in fact "an administrative action which resulted in attendance at an education program" and that you are thinking wishfully.
You need to report it. When you get your next one, if you've omitted, for this fact of the omission and for nothing else, you will lose all your PILOT CERTIFICATES.
I am in a position to know; I'm one of the 100 alcohol accredited "HIMS AMEs". You should see the crazy-_ss stuff the guys who drink on weekends or stone try to get by. Then they cry "nobody told me!",as they apply for sponsorship after revocation, monitoring programs, and protest that the repeated psychiatric evaluations are "too expensive".
The FAA is making the statement that there is no place in aviation for someone who does alcohol or any substance. Even MIP. If you do it twice, you're out. If you lie, you lose everything.
Lying to Uncle Sam will eventually result, after your first ATO violation or first incident's investigation, in the loss of both your medical and Pilot certificates. This was a congressionally ordered position on the agency's part.
I had the sad duty today of infomring one of my sponsored pilots that his repeated missing his monitoring appointments with me will result in his revocation by the end of the month. This was done by certified mail, today. He has to make an appointment in the next 12 working days, make it stick, or he is in violation of the terms of his special issuance. He whines all the time about the montiroing program. But I say to him, "Hey, YOU got the violation, not I, and I've been giving you the best shake you can get."
Don't get that far along. It's not pretty. I would put spending money on the multi rating on hold until this is sorted out. You may be okay, or you might be headed for a career in insurance, depending on the court record, which they will demand. If there is an officer's description of your behavior, it will be medically evaluated. Some states don't have that so the outcome of this report remains, "It depends".