Pitts gets world record inverted spin title. 81

That would make me dizzy lol. As light and powerful as it is, it should have no problem making it to that altitude.
 
It actually took a electro air electronic ignition to make it up there. He couldn't get it there without it as he tried several times. He did tell me at FL230 he was climbing a whooping 130 FPM.
 
Luvrv8 said:
It actually took a electro air electronic ignition to make it up there. He couldn't get it there without it as he tried several times. He did tell me at FL230 he was climbing a whooping 130 FPM.
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Ahhh, I forgot about that, without a turbo you can't pressurize the mags....
 
Luvrv8 said:
It actually took a electro air electronic ignition to make it up there. He couldn't get it there without it as he tried several times. He did tell me at FL230 he was climbing a whooping 130 FPM.
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That was the climb rate of my RV12 at 14k! :lol:
 
I was watching the altimeter, and he was losing ~500 feet per 360 revolution.

It should be ~40,500 feet, I didn't count the revolutions, but he obviously did many with less altitude loss.

I'd have to watch it again, but right now I think I'm gonna hurl ...
 
He broke down the spins at differant altitudes, I can't remember the exact number but they changed as the plane dropped.

As most of you aerobatic guys know this was not a spur of the moment try. He did come up short on 2 prior attempts. He is a computer guy, a lot of work was put into this and many test flights leading up to this. I have seen some videos of the plane with yarn on differant parts of the plane as he did the spins with differant inputs. The thing about Spencer is he will tell anyone that asks him what he did to get this record. Trust me, he is already working a on way to get more spins incase anyone breaks this record. This is fun for him and helps promote his airshow bookings.
 
Luvrv8 said:
Trust me, he is already working a on way to get more spins incase anyone breaks this record.
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My S-1S flat spins faster than the S-2B. I'll just go ahead and take care of it this weekend. :)
 
whifferdill said:
My S-1S flat spins faster than the S-2B. I'll just go ahead and take care of it this weekend. :)
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Let Spencer know, he will help you, after all the record holder that had it before him did give him a lot of input.
 
I was always taught that in class A airspace, all flights need to be on an IFR flight plan. How did he get IFR clearance in a plane that is clearly not IFR capable?

Just trying to learn ;)
 
Jetwrench said:
I was always taught that in class A airspace, all flights need to be on an IFR flight plan. How did he get IFR clearance in a plane that is clearly not IFR capable?

Just trying to learn ;)
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You can get a waver from the FAA. I imagine it's similar to flying through bravo without mode C, just need to make prior arrangements.
 
whifferdill said:
My S-1S flat spins faster than the S-2B. I'll just go ahead and take care of it this weekend. :)
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Just curious, EXACTLY how many turns per 1000' does your plane get at 10,000', 6000', and 3000'?

I presume you know this, right? If not send me an email and I'll teach you the procedure for ascertaining spin rates and building a spreadsheet with an algorithm for extrapolating performance into the flight levels. If you want to beat me you'll need to start collecting data and formulating a plan to manage the flight profile for your attempts.
 
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Jetwrench said:
I was always taught that in class A airspace, all flights need to be on an IFR flight plan. How did he get IFR clearance in a plane that is clearly not IFR capable?

Just trying to learn ;)
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You call up ATC and tell them that you want to do a test flight and would like a block of altitude to FL230 and they will give you the appropriate clearance. ATC doesn't try to limit what you do, they just try to guard airspace.
 
Great perspective. I made it all the way to 1:08 before I had enough. Aerobatics are not in my future....
 
Henning said:
You call up ATC and tell them that you want to do a test flight and would like a block of altitude to FL230 and they will give you the appropriate clearance. ATC doesn't try to limit what you do, they just try to guard airspace.
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That is exactly how it works...:yes:....:yes:.
 
WorldRecordHolder said:
Just curious, EXACTLY how many turns per 1000' does your plane get at 10,000', 6000', and 3000'?

I presume you know this, right? If not send me an email and I'll teach you the procedure for ascertaining spin rates and building a spreadsheet with an algorithm for extrapolating performance into the flight levels. If you want to beat me you'll need to start collecting data and formulating a plan to manage the flight profile for your attempts.
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Excellent to post here! Hey, quick question, did you reset you altimeter from 29.92 to local when spinning down through FL180?:D;)
 
WorldRecordHolder said:
Just curious, EXACTLY how many turns per 1000' does your plane get at 10,000', 6000', and 3000'?

I presume you know this, right? If not send me an email and I'll teach you the procedure for ascertaining spin rates and building a spreadsheet with an algorithm for extrapolating performance into the flight levels. If you want to beat me you'll need to start collecting data and formulating a plan to manage the flight profile for your attempts.
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First post.............

Welcome to POA...:cheers:..

Ps... just watching that video made me dizzy...:goofy:
 
Henning said:
Excellent to post here! Hey, quick question, did you reset you altimeter from 29.92 to local when spinning down through FL180?:D;)
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I'm guessing he set it to AGL to avoid doing math on the way down. :)
 
Dave Theisen said:
I'm guessing he set it to AGL to avoid doing math on the way down. :)
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Hmmmm..

I am guessing that too based on the fact he was with SLC center, and I cannot think of anyplace in their sectors where he could level out at 2000 msl and not hit the earth..:dunno:
 
Henning said:
Excellent to post here! Hey, quick question, did you reset you altimeter from 29.92 to local when spinning down through FL180?:D;)
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Heck NO! That's instant death! As is the common procedure in air show flying I set the altimeter to 0 on the airfield even though El Centro is below sea level. It's important to know how high you are above the ground...especially for that flight. If you look closely at the Garmin Fortrex in the middle of the panel it reads 23,260 when the altimeter reads 23,000. I set that to altimeter setting before takeoff.
 
Jetwrench said:
I was always taught that in class A airspace, all flights need to be on an IFR flight plan. How did he get IFR clearance in a plane that is clearly not IFR capable?

Just trying to learn ;)
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I was on an IFR flight plan filed earlier that morning per the guidelines received the week before from the FAA. ATC can at their discretion clear any aircraft meeting certain minimum requirements (VHF radio and mode c transponder) into Class A given appropriate weather conditions. It is best to coordinate such flights ahead of time and the FAA will absolutely bend over backwards to help you. I know, I have done it many times while flight testing the Electroair ignition system and to make world record spin attempts. :yes:

§91.135 Operations in Class A airspace.

Except as provided in paragraph (d) of this section, each person operating an aircraft in Class A airspace must conduct that operation under instrument flight rules (IFR) and in compliance with the following:
(a) Clearance. Operations may be conducted only under an ATC clearance received prior to entering the airspace.
(b) Communications. Unless otherwise authorized by ATC, each aircraft operating in Class A airspace must be equipped with a two-way radio capable of communicating with ATC on a frequency assigned by ATC. Each pilot must maintain two-way radio communications with ATC while operating in Class A airspace.
(c) Equipment requirements. Unless otherwise authorized by ATC, no person may operate an aircraft within Class A airspace unless that aircraft is equipped with the applicable equipment specified in §91.215, and after January 1, 2020, §91.225.
(d) ATC authorizations. An operator may deviate from any provision of this section under the provisions of an ATC authorization issued by the ATC facility having jurisdiction of the airspace concerned. In the case of an inoperative transponder, ATC may immediately approve an operation within a Class A airspace area allowing flight to continue, if desired, to the airport of ultimate destination, including any intermediate stops, or to proceed to a place where suitable repairs can be made, or both. Requests for deviation from any provision of this section must be submitted in writing, at least 4 days before the proposed operation. ATC may authorize a deviation on a continuing basis or for an individual flight.
 
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WorldRecordHolder said:
Just curious, EXACTLY how many turns per 1000' does your plane get at 10,000', 6000', and 3000'?

I presume you know this, right? If not send me an email and I'll teach you the procedure for ascertaining spin rates and building a spreadsheet with an algorithm for extrapolating performance into the flight levels. If you want to beat me you'll need to start collecting data and formulating a plan to manage the flight profile for your attempts.
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Thanks for the offer. I thought my post came across pretty well as a joke. Maybe it needed several more smileys, winks, and laughing emoticons. :):D;) :lol:
 
The record has been broken. It's been a long weekend but worth it.
 
Was Darth Vader flying the plane in that last vid?
 
This guy is a terrible pilot. It took him 98 revolutions to remember to use opposite rudder.
 
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