Pilot Shop Lady Hates Windows 10

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When I stopped in the local pilot supplies store today, the lady at the register got to telling me how much she hates Windows 10, and why. I had already heard enough from tech news sources to make me wary of it, but I thought it was interesting to hear complaints from a non-tech source. It makes me wonder if the zero dollars currently being charged may be an accurate indication of the value of the "upgrade."
 
Nope, it was a counter to the free OS updates from Apple. The OS is now the "loss leader" (and has been for a long time). The real money is selling the applications and it was hard for Microsoft to sell newer versions of things like word when people never bothered to upgrade the OS from whatever the OEM installed it on it.
 
When I stopped in the local pilot supplies store today, the lady at the register got to telling me how much she hates Windows 10, and why. I had already heard enough from tech news sources to make me wary of it, but I thought it was interesting to hear complaints from a non-tech source. It makes me wonder if the zero dollars currently being charged may be an accurate indication of the value of the "upgrade."

It has some improvements "under the hood," and the UI stuff can be fixed with ClassicShell, etc. My objection is to the built-in spyware and MS's Big Brother attitude with regard to things like forced updates. If all their updates worked properly and didn't break ****, the latter wouldn't be a big issue for me. But alas, that's not the case.

Speaking of Windows Updates, it's becoming a real chore to run them on 8.1 these days. Microsoft keeps sneaking the Win10 upgrader back into the updates under different KBs to try to rope in users who have hidden the previous ones. You have to pore over every update description, every time updates come out, to make sure you're not upgraded to Win10 against your will. That's simply unacceptable. No means no. Stop bothering me.

MS is hell-bent on getting everyone on the same platform, but all they've accomplished in my case is getting me to seriously consider, for the first time in my life, switching to a Mac. Apple is even more paternalistic than MS, but at least they have some semblance of respect for their users' privacy, and their updates usually don't break stuff (except for their mail client, for which there are alternatives).

Microsoft's obsession with forcing Win 10 upon users also has me pondering going back to Linux as my primary desktop OS again. I used Linux as my sole desktop OS from 1998 through 2002 or 2003. I had a machine that multiple-booted into various Windows versions because I supported Windows for part of my living, but for my own work I used Linux.

It wasn't until some time in 2002 or 2003, after XP had been out for a while, that I gradually drifted back to Windows. XP was at least usable, and I missed Adobe Fireworks. In fact, FW was the only Windows application that I really missed, and I never could get it to run on WiNE. Everything else either had a good Linux-native replacement or could be run on WiNE, but not Fireworks.

Fireworks is still the only application that I would miss if I switched back to Linux. But nowadays, in addition to simply liking the program and having mastered it, I also have about a bazillion files that I created with it that no other program can edit. It's not that FW does anything special that other image programs can't do. It's that Fireworks buries a ton of metadata in .PNG files that no other program can access, and I have a ****load of those files.

I also heavily use DreamWeaver, Photoshop, and Illustrator, in that order; and on occasion I use Premiere Pro. The first three have Linux-native replacements that I'm just as comfortable with and could easily transition to, and I only use a fraction of Premiere Pro's capabilities. Premiere Pro is for guys like Spielberg. I need to do simple edits that even the cheesiest FOSS video editing software can easily handle. So I wouldn't miss Premiere Pro.

But I do love Fireworks and have a ton of files that I created with it: And if I'm going to keep Windows around so I can use keep using Fireworks, then I may as well use it for the rest of the Adobe software that I regularly use.

But that could change.

If MS is going to keep sneaking up behind me like a mugger in The Bronx to force me to upgrade at gunpoint to Win10, then I may just bite the bullet and export all of my .PNG files to .PSD, which will preserve enough of the metadata to make them at least somewhat editable in GIMP. The uneditable layers (mainly text) would have to be deleted and re-created, which would be a bother, but would be doable. There's also an unofficial APNG patch for libpng that I'm told will make at lease some of the metadata accessible.

The ironic thing is that Adobe's not maintaining Fireworks anymore. You can still buy it and use it, and it's still a part of my Adobe CS subscription, but they've already made it clear that they will not be updating it anymore. They want us to use Photoshop instead and have hinted that FW may not be around forever. I guess they don't read their own forums or else they'd understand that Fireworks is the only reason that many users keep their subscriptions active. Even the hallowed Photoshop and DreamWeaver have worthy and capable replacements -- most of them FOSS.

Long story short, if Adobe ever drops support for FW, both my Adobe subscription and my use of Windows will be history before nightfall. That's kind of ironic when you think about it because both Fireworks and Win 8.1 are considered deprecated by their publishers, so one deprecated piece of software is the only reason I keep using the other.

Rich
 
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It's better than Windows 8 isn't it? That was awful!

Win8.1 is a splendid and eminently capable OS in terms of being a platform for applications. It's truly a thing of beauty in that regard. The GUI just sucks. But that can be readily fixed with ClassicShell.

Rich
 
FW won't run on an XP vm under Linux? Legacy windows stuff the only thing preventing my total migration to Linux. Only Quickbooks and Jeppesen remain, and they run under a vm.
 
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FW won't run on an XP vm under Linux? Legay windows stuff the only thing preventing my total migration to Linux. Only Quickbooks and Jeppesen remain, and they run under a vm.

I'm not sure whether the most recent version will, but probably it would. The last version of FW had some worthwhile improvements over the older versions.

I'm not sure how I'd activate an XP image nowadays, nor if I even have an XP disk. I discarded a lot of that stuff when I moved out of Queens and sold my consulting business. But I suppose someone has cobbled one together.

I haven't virtualized Windows in years (nor needed to) so I'm kind of out of that loop. The last time I did was when Win7 first came out. I had an XP system running on VirtualBox on a Linux machine as a "just in case," but I never needed it. Win7 was a painless transition. I wonder if I still have that hard drive stashed away somewhere...

Rich
 
It has some improvements "under the hood," and the UI stuff can be fixed with ClassicShell, etc. My objection is to the built-in spyware and MS's Big Brother attitude with regard to things like forced updates. If all their updates worked properly and didn't break ****, the latter wouldn't be a big issue for me. But alas, that's not the case.

Speaking of Windows Updates, it's becoming a real chore to run them on 8.1 these days. Microsoft keeps sneaking the Win10 upgrader back into the updates under different KBs to try to rope in users who have hidden the previous ones. You have to pore over every update description, every time updates come out, to make sure you're not upgraded to Win10 against your will. That's simply unacceptable. No means no. Stop bothering me.

MS is hell-bent on getting everyone on the same platform, but all they've accomplished in my case is getting me to seriously consider, for the first time in my life, switching to a Mac. Apple is even more paternalistic than MS, but at least they have some semblance of respect for their users' privacy, and their updates usually don't break stuff (except for their mail client, for which there are alternatives).

Microsoft's obsession with forcing Win 10 upon users also has me pondering going back to Linux as my primary desktop OS again. I used Linux as my sole desktop OS from 1998 through 2002 or 2003. I had a machine that multiple-booted into various Windows versions because I supported Windows for part of my living, but for my own work I used Linux...

If MS is going to keep sneaking up behind me like a mugger in The Bronx to force me to upgrade at gunpoint to Win10..., then I may just bite the bullet and export all of my .PNG files to .PSD, which will preserve enough of the metadata to make them at least somewhat editable in GIMP. The uneditable layers (mainly text) would have to be deleted and re-created, which would be a bother, but would be doable. There's also an unofficial APNG patch for libpng that I'm told will make at lease some of the metadata accessible....

Seems like Microsoft has lost its marbles, and is suffering from the arrogance of the monopolist. I guess I'd better clone My Win 7 hard disks before I accept any more updates. So far, I seem to have avoided the forced "upgrade" nonsense by uninstalling certain updates, with the help of tech news sources, and I'm thinking of declining everything except security updates. If that doesn't work, I'm thinking about switching to either Linux or a Mac for Internet access, and disconnecting my Win 7 machine from the Internet.
 
I'm not sure whether the most recent version will, but probably it would. The last version of FW had some worthwhile improvements over the older versions.

I'm not sure how I'd activate an XP image nowadays, nor if I even have an XP disk. I discarded a lot of that stuff when I moved out of Queens and sold my consulting business. But I suppose someone has cobbled one together.

I haven't virtualized Windows in years (nor needed to) so I'm kind of out of that loop. The last time I did was when Win7 first came out. I had an XP system running on VirtualBox on a Linux machine as a "just in case," but I never needed it. Win7 was a painless transition. I wonder if I still have that hard drive stashed away somewhere...

Rich

My XP machine, which is not connected to the Internet, needed reactivation for some reason recently, but I was able to do it over the phone. They had an automated process for instructing me on what to type in.
 
I've had 10 installed since the week it became available. No issues at all. Which is quite a contrast from 8, which was a complete train wreck.

I don't understand what everyone is complaining about with W10. Works great for me.


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Seems like Microsoft has lost its marbles, and is suffering from the arrogance of the monopolist. I guess I'd better clone My Win 7 hard disks before I accept any more updates. So far, I seem to have avoided the forced "upgrade" nonsense by uninstalling certain updates, with the help of tech news sources, and I'm thinking of declining everything except security updates. If that doesn't work, I'm thinking about switching to either Linux or a Mac for Internet access, and disconnecting my Win 7 machine from the Internet.

I always maintain a clone of the hard drive, and I always refresh it immediately before installing updates. That's not just to avoid Win10. It's for protection against updates that break stuff to the point that the machine becomes unbootable. That doesn't happen nearly as often as it used to, but it's still not unheard of.

Back in the old days when I was doing support, I had bootable disks that could do a quick-and-dirty revert of an unbootable system back to a previous restore point. But I'm out of that line of work now. I still have the old disks, but I'm not sure they'd work on 8.1. (Besides, having a clone of the hard drive has pulled my gluteus maximus out of the fire for many different reasons other than bad updates over the years.)

Rich
 
I'm pretty happy with Windows 10. I didn't upgrade, I built a new computer for it.

It seems rock solid, it's more reliable than my OS-X laptop, which has frequent pregnant pauses. Windows has the ssd, so it's got that going for it.

The biggest peeve I have with Win 10 is that you can't search your apps from the start button. For example, on Windows 7 if I wanted to run Notepad++ I could just type 'Notepad++' in the start button search box and there it would be.

On Win 10 the search box sends you to Bing, which is both sad and pathetic.

I skipped 8 altogether.
 
The biggest peeve I have with Win 10 is that you can't search your apps from the start button. For example, on Windows 7 if I wanted to run Notepad++ I could just type 'Notepad++' in the start button search box and there it would be.

On Win 10 the search box sends you to Bing, which is both sad and pathetic.

Try; Press and old 'Windows' key(between Fn and Alt on most keyboards), press 'r' key, brings up the run program dialog search within the OS. Type 'notepad'. press enter or click the 'OK' button. Should not go to Bing unless a hotkey has been setup prev.
 
Try; Press and old 'Windows' key(between Fn and Alt on most keyboards), press 'r' key, brings up the run program dialog search within the OS. Type 'notepad'. press enter or click the 'OK' button. Should not go to Bing unless a hotkey has been setup prev.
Just hit the windows key and start typing for what you want.
 
I've had 10 installed since the week it became available. No issues at all. Which is quite a contrast from 8, which was a complete train wreck.

I don't understand what everyone is complaining about with W10. Works great for me.


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Me too, no problems.
 
Thanks for the tip, I was sure it was in there somewhere.

I use command lines in Windows a lot. For example, I use a utility called GitBash every day for working with git repositories. GitBash gives you a Linux type command line window. Because nobody in the Linux world has any idea how to make a decent graphical user interface, it's just sometimes a lot easier to use Linux tools from the command line.
 
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