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"Peanut Allergies

The real danger for peanut allergy sufferers is accidental consumption of peanut products, although mild reactions may occur if peanuts come into contact with the skin. Simply smelling peanuts or peanut butter cannot cause an allergic reaction. In one controlled study, 30 children with a significant peanut allergy were exposed to peanut butter by either smelling it for one minute or actually pressing the peanut butter onto the skin for one minute. About 1/3 of the children experienced a reddening or flaring of the skin, but none of the children experienced a respiratory or anaphylactic reaction. Another study concluded, “Casual exposure to peanut butter is unlikely to elicit significant allergic reactions.”

Refined peanut oil does not contain the peanut protein and does not pose a risk to people with peanut allergies. Unrefined peanut oil, which may also be called ‘gourmet’, ‘aromatic’ or ‘cold pressed’, may contain peanut proteins so they should be avoided. The vast majority of peanut oil available to consumers and foodservice is highly refined oil and presents no risk.

About 0.6% of the American population has a peanut allergy, and about 0.1% of the American population is believed to be subject to a life-threatening peanut allergy. For the remainder of the population, peanuts and peanut butter continue to be a popular, nutritious and economical food.

- See more at: http://peanutbutterlovers.com/allergies/#sthash.G9c2dIOF.dpuf"

This really takes some of the fear out of this peanut problem and squarely places it with the allergy sufferer. :yesnod:
 
If it will kill you without you even knowing it's there, yes.

Otherwise, you're exposing your ignorance.

:rofl:

At least I'm not asking anyone else to expose anything because I have an allergy.
 
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"Peanut Allergies

The real danger for peanut allergy sufferers is accidental consumption of peanut products, although mild reactions may occur if peanuts come into contact with the skin. Simply smelling peanuts or peanut butter cannot cause an allergic reaction. In one controlled study, 30 children with a significant peanut allergy were exposed to peanut butter by either smelling it for one minute or actually pressing the peanut butter onto the skin for one minute. About 1/3 of the children experienced a reddening or flaring of the skin, but none of the children experienced a respiratory or anaphylactic reaction. Another study concluded, “Casual exposure to peanut butter is unlikely to elicit significant allergic reactions.”

Refined peanut oil does not contain the peanut protein and does not pose a risk to people with peanut allergies. Unrefined peanut oil, which may also be called ‘gourmet’, ‘aromatic’ or ‘cold pressed’, may contain peanut proteins so they should be avoided. The vast majority of peanut oil available to consumers and foodservice is highly refined oil and presents no risk.

About 0.6% of the American population has a peanut allergy, and about 0.1% of the American population is believed to be subject to a life-threatening peanut allergy. For the remainder of the population, peanuts and peanut butter continue to be a popular, nutritious and economical food.

- See more at: http://peanutbutterlovers.com/allergies/#sthash.G9c2dIOF.dpuf"

This really takes some of the fear out of this peanut problem and squarely places it with the allergy sufferer. :yesnod:


Thanks for dredging up that FACT.......

So, it looks like ONE in a THOUSAND have serious problems...... :yes:......:rolleyes:
 
I really don't want to fly with a bunch of nuts anyway.:D
 
Wanna bet......

I fact, from now on I will bring my own peanuts on all future airline flights.. And AFAIK.. there in NO requirement forbidding it....

Darwin needs to thin out the weak ya know.....:yes:......;)

Actually, you'd probably be helping them. British doctors have developed a revolutionary new treatment for peanut allergy sufferers: feeding them peanuts.

I kid you not.

Frankly, I think the truth of the matter is that whatever test they use for peanut allergies is grossly prone to false positives. It's hard to come up with a scientific explanation for peanut allergies going from unknown to epidemic in one generation.

Given the yuppies' perverse need for their spawn to be "special," even if that means handicapped in some way, the parents of those falsely identified would be all too happy to embrace the labels and pin them on their "special" spawn.

So now here come these Cambridge doctors "treating" these supposedly allergic children with small amounts of the peanuts that supposedly would kill them were they merely found in the same county, and lo and behold, the kids don't keel over dead! In fact, if they feed them enough peanuts, their peanut allergies miraculously disappear!

It's either a medical miracle, or a crock of unadulterated bull****; and frankly, I suspect the latter. I suspect that the vast majority of them were never allergic to peanuts to begin with.

But whatever the case, allergies and other ailments are the responsibility of those suffering from them, not everyone around them.

I happen to have diabetes, but I don't walk into restaurants and demand that they prepare special meals for me, nor that all sweet deserts be removed from the menu because I might be tempted to eat them. As far as I'm concerned, managing my diabetes is my responsibility, not anyone else's; and I have no delusional expectations that anyone else is in any way obligated to help me do so. Managing my illness is my responsibility, not anyone else's.

I guess I'm just old-fashioned that way.

Rich
 
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My pig is doing slow flight right now. Slow flight into delicious pulled pork. Eat ya tomorrow my delicious friend. Oh and it is being bbqed overnight in the oven, heat is heat.
 
Actually, you'd probably be helping them. British doctors have developed a revolutionary new treatment for peanut allergy sufferers: feeding them peanuts.

I kid you not.

Frankly, I think the truth of the matter is that whatever test they use for peanut allergies is grossly prone to false positives. It's hard to come up with a scientific explanation for peanut allergies going from unknown to epidemic in one generation.

Given the yuppies' perverse need for their spawn to be "special," even if that means handicapped in some way, the parents of those falsely identified would be all too happy to embrace the labels and pin them on their "special" spawn.

So now here come these Cambridge doctors "treating" these supposedly allergic children with small amounts of the peanuts that supposedly would kill them were they merely found in the same county, and lo and behold, the kids don't keel over dead! In fact, if they feed them enough peanuts, their peanut allergies miraculously disappear!

It's either a medical miracle, or a crock of unadulterated bull****; and frankly, I suspect the latter. I suspect that the vast majority of them were never allergic to peanuts to begin with.

But whatever the case, allergies and other ailments are the responsibility of those suffering from them, not everyone around them.

I happen to have diabetes, but I don't walk into restaurants and demand that they prepare special meals for me, nor that all sweet deserts be removed from the menu because I might be tempted to eat them. As far as I'm concerned, managing my diabetes is my responsibility, not anyone else's; and I have no delusional expectations that anyone else is in any way obligated to help me do so. Managing my illness is my responsibility, not anyone else's.

I guess I'm just old-fashioned that way.

Rich

Most allergies are over greatly reported. Unfortunately, there are a few severely allergic people out there. They get in trouble when they eat something that has peanuts that they did not know contained peanuts. Deaths from peanut allergy are rare enough that they frequently make national news.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/31/health/california-peanut-allergy-death/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...-student-dies-peanut-butter-allergy/19606473/
http://fox6now.com/2014/11/28/milwa...er-allergic-reaction-to-peanut-butter-cookie/

Desensitization to aspirin allergy is commonly performed by allergists by giving a very small dose and increasing it every hour or two until they reach a specified dose. They are prepared to deal with any severe reactions. It makes sense that peanut desensitization could occur in a similar fashion.
 
Most allergies are over greatly reported. Unfortunately, there are a few severely allergic people out there. They get in trouble when they eat something that has peanuts that they did not know contained peanuts. Deaths from peanut allergy are rare enough that they frequently make national news.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/31/health/california-peanut-allergy-death/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...-student-dies-peanut-butter-allergy/19606473/
http://fox6now.com/2014/11/28/milwa...er-allergic-reaction-to-peanut-butter-cookie/

Desensitization to aspirin allergy is commonly performed by allergists by giving a very small dose and increasing it every hour or two until they reach a specified dose. They are prepared to deal with any severe reactions. It makes sense that peanut desensitization could occur in a similar fashion.

Thank you. I defer to your expertise.

I suppose I'm just jaded from listening to the never-ending litany of maladies that seems to dominate dinner conversation these days. Sometimes I feel as if I need to consult an allergist every time I'm planning a get-together.

Rich
 
Peanut allergies are serious and no joke, I certainly agree with that. I have Celiac disease myself and have to avoid gluten products. I'm not quite that bad but my my mom is deathly allergic to wheat. Contact with a bun or a few bread crumbs equals a trip to the hospital. And it better be fast or she will suffocate from the swelling.

But ban wheat? Come on. Even she wouldn't agree with that. She has zero problem cooking with flour. She just can't eat it. Peanut allergy sufferers? Yes disclose the ingredients and be mindful. But I like peanuts, personally.

A couple years ago I invited a former boss of mine to a Lakers playoff game I had tickets for. At some point I got us both some big peanut stick thing. He reminded me of his peanut allergy. I felt like such a ********. I forgot.

Anyway yeah, I think it's incumbent on those that have allergies to keep on top of it. Me being one of them.
 
Oh please. Censor people, you have to be joking.
 
Thank you. I defer to your expertise.

I suppose I'm just jaded from listening to the never-ending litany of maladies that seems to dominate dinner conversation these days. Sometimes I feel as if I need to consult an allergist every time I'm planning a get-together.

Rich

I know what you are talking about. Many people are proud of their illnesses, real or imagined. They also expect others to kowtow to their whims. For some it is the only way they can feel special. There is no shortage of people with service animals who fit into this category.
 
There was a Malcom in the Middle episode where Louis (Mom) was part of some school play. There was tension between her and other moms over leadership roles in being school play boosters. Lois made some dessert with peanuts in it and as she put it on the table the following exchange with the other mom (OM) takes place:

Lois: "I made peanut butter cookies"
OM: "Oh, we can't serve that. Peanut allergies!"
Lois: "Oh gosh! Who has peanut allergies?"
OM: Well, no one...but you can't be too careful"

Point is this peanut thing has reached absurd levels. I know it's just a TV show, but that sort of mentality is displayed all over, airlines being just one example we here all associate with.

I'm sorry people with peanut allergies have that condition. I'm sorry paraplegics can't walk. But asking EVERYBODY to bend to the 0.1% is crazy. Not to mention there are peanut farmers out there who, well, ya know...make a living out of selling nutritious peanuts.
 
On a Leave it to Beaver episode, June was making sandwiches for the boys who were playing basketball in the driveway. Eddie asked Mrs Cleaver to skip the mayo on his because he's allergic. She was watching the action through the kitchen window and Eddie pushed the Beav into the bushes. She said, "Oh, that Eddie Haskell!!!" and slapped a bunch of extra mayo on his sandwich.

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My nephew has had terrible food allergies all 16 of his years. He carries an epi-pen whenever he goes. His mom and dad taught him how to use it just as soon as he was old enough to understand. Eating anything he's allergic to could be fatal. He has a skin reaction if he touches anything he's sensitive to. His mom and dad used that trick to see what was OK for him to eat. They'd smear some food on the inside of his forearm, wait a few minutes, and see what happened.
 
There was a Malcom in the Middle episode where Louis (Mom) was part of some school play. There was tension between her and other moms over leadership roles in being school play boosters. Lois made some dessert with peanuts in it and as she put it on the table the following exchange with the other mom (OM) takes place:

Lois: "I made peanut butter cookies"
OM: "Oh, we can't serve that. Peanut allergies!"
Lois: "Oh gosh! Who has peanut allergies?"
OM: Well, no one...but you can't be too careful"

Point is this peanut thing has reached absurd levels. I know it's just a TV show, but that sort of mentality is displayed all over, airlines being just one example we here all associate with.

I'm sorry people with peanut allergies have that condition. I'm sorry paraplegics can't walk. But asking EVERYBODY to bend to the 0.1% is crazy. Not to mention there are peanut farmers out there who, well, ya know...make a living out of selling nutritious peanuts.


Agreed... In my lifetime I have seen numerous things that in the beginning of the hype, were considered devastating...
1- Cyclomates
2- eggs
3-sugar
4- salt
5- ADHD
6- Peanuts
etc. etc etc......

Guess what...... EVERYONE of them turned out to be non issues...

I can't wait to see the next "darling" of banned substances...:mad2::mad2::mad2:
 
I thought about this thread while reading this article:

http://blog.timesunion.com/hottopic/mall-santa-turns-away-autistic-girl-because-of-service-dog/6333/

Now it seems to me that the mall Santa has a legitimate gripe -- assuming that he really is allergic to dogs, of course. He was fired because he refused to do something that would have made him sick. That's a violation of the ADA.

But the little girl (whose actual first name is "Abcde," which makes me wonder about her parents' state of mind) also has a right to have her service dog accompany her to Santa's lap, according to the same ADA.

Here we have a situation that will become more and more common as more and more people define themselves as disabled, allergic, or otherwise sickly and special, and their perceived rights increasingly come into conflict with those of others.

It also illustrates why I believe that ultimately, as harsh as it sounds, people who really do suffer from illnesses, allergies, or disabilities need to accept the reality that their rights do not, in fact, trump the rights of others. To the extent that their needs can be accommodated without harm or severe inconvenience to others, all well and good. But to expect that their needs will always be accommodated -- without regard for the rights of others -- is simply unrealistic.

In this case, I think that both Abcde's family and Santa are in the wrong. Abcde's parents are wrong for assuming that the broad privileges given to service animals include the right to make another person sick. But Santa is also wrong because with the multitude of service animals out there these days, it's reasonable to assume that a mall Santa is going to come in contact with them, making that a poor job choice for someone allergic to common service animal species.

Also consider the position this puts the mall in. What's the "reasonable accommodation" for a Santa who's allergic to dogs? Reasonably accommodating Santa's alleged dog allergy would require that he be exempted from having to have contact with dogs, but that would violate Abcde's right to hop on Santa's lap and get her picture taken. So what's the mall supposed to do? Short of hiring a back-up Santa for kids who have service animals, they're pretty much between a rock and a hard place.

It's a sad thing, of course. Abcde is a cute little kid with a friendly-looking dog and a genuine disability, so right away Santa seems the villain. But if we're going to bend over backwards to accommodate everyone's maladies, whether real or imagined, then Santa's rights not to make himself sick for what in all likelihood is a minimum-wage job have been violated, as well.

Rich
 
I thought about this thread while reading this article:

http://blog.timesunion.com/hottopic/mall-santa-turns-away-autistic-girl-because-of-service-dog/6333/

Now it seems to me that the mall Santa has a legitimate gripe -- assuming that he really is allergic to dogs, of course. He was fired because he refused to do something that would have made him sick. That's a violation of the ADA.

But the little girl (whose actual first name is "Abcde," which makes me wonder about her parents' state of mind) also has a right to have her service dog accompany her to Santa's lap, according to the same ADA.

Here we have a situation that will become more and more common as more and more people define themselves as disabled, allergic, or otherwise sickly and special, and their perceived rights increasingly come into conflict with those of others.

It also illustrates why I believe that ultimately, as harsh as it sounds, people who really do suffer from illnesses, allergies, or disabilities need to accept the reality that their rights do not, in fact, trump the rights of others. To the extent that their needs can be accommodated without harm or severe inconvenience to others, all well and good. But to expect that their needs will always be accommodated -- without regard for the rights of others -- is simply unrealistic.

In this case, I think that both Abcde's family and Santa are in the wrong. Abcde's parents are wrong for assuming that the broad privileges given to service animals include the right to make another person sick. But Santa is also wrong because with the multitude of service animals out there these days, it's reasonable to assume that a mall Santa is going to come in contact with them, making that a poor job choice for someone allergic to common service animal species.

Also consider the position this puts the mall in. What's the "reasonable accommodation" for a Santa who's allergic to dogs? Reasonably accommodating Santa's alleged dog allergy would require that he be exempted from having to have contact with dogs, but that would violate Abcde's right to hop on Santa's lap and get her picture taken. So what's the mall supposed to do? Short of hiring a back-up Santa for kids who have service animals, they're pretty much between a rock and a hard place.

It's a sad thing, of course. Abcde is a cute little kid with a friendly-looking dog and a genuine disability, so right away Santa seems the villain. But if we're going to bend over backwards to accommodate everyone's maladies, whether real or imagined, then Santa's rights not to make himself sick for what in all likelihood is a minimum-wage job have been violated, as well.

Rich

Clearly the problem is religion and ....oops, wrong section
 
Well if their foolish mothers only let them play in the dirt when they were babies they wouldn't have this problem.

May be some truth to that. The woman across the hallway here at work is a real piece of work germ wise. :loco: Carries a purse full of assorted anti-biotic/microbal wipes and lotions. Since birth, she constantly swabbed down her kids in that crap. Even to this day, she makes her HIGH SCHOOL son wipe down after pretty much anything. He has to wipe down after playing baseball before he can get in the car.

Both of the kids developed asthma, have allergies, have to carry inhalers, and the younger girl especially seems to be sick all the time.

We refuse to buy anything anti-microbal and never wiped our daughter down. Not even after being in public restrooms. :yikes: The girl across the hall thinks we're terrible parents but our daughter is fine.

I know, anecdotal, but this IS PoA.
 
May be some truth to that. The woman across the hallway here at work is a real piece of work germ wise. :loco: Carries a purse full of assorted anti-biotic/microbal wipes and lotions. Since birth, she constantly swabbed down her kids in that crap. Even to this day, she makes her HIGH SCHOOL son wipe down after pretty much anything. He has to wipe down after playing baseball before he can get in the car.

Both of the kids developed asthma, have allergies, have to carry inhalers, and the younger girl especially seems to be sick all the time.

We refuse to buy anything anti-microbal and never wiped our daughter down. Not even after being in public restrooms. :yikes: The girl across the hall thinks we're terrible parents but our daughter is fine.

I know, anecdotal, but this IS PoA.

Valid example....

Personally I am convinced that kids exposed to constant cleaning are literally wiping away any defense antibodies they can generate..IMHO..
 
Valid example....

Personally I am convinced that kids exposed to constant cleaning are literally wiping away any defense antibodies they can generate..IMHO..
There is science that suggests that, nothing proven. Except we really don't need to prove something obvious. Irony is the wipey mom types are now pushing hand sanitizer bans.:eek:
 
Valid example....

Personally I am convinced that kids exposed to constant cleaning are literally wiping away any defense antibodies they can generate..IMHO..

I'm inclined to agree. I was about as grubby a kid as grubby gets, and I've never taken a sick day from work or school for an actual illness since I started high school. I took a day off in high school once to see the doctor for a broken nose (boxing -- I wasn't very good at it), but that was it.

Not taking sick days worked out well for me as an adult because my unused sick days accrued and were available to me either as personal or extra vacation days, or as terminal leave. I'd usually take them as extra vacation between Christmas and New Year's, which the boss was just as happy about because it was a dead-slow week anyway.

Rich
 
Now, it's predatory birds
I had to check the calendar to see it wasn't early April!
"ensures maximum hygienic protection of the cabin walls, seats and carpets from soiling by the birds," the airline said in a statement to the Guardian."
 
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