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So I haven't been offically diagnosed but was told that I most likely have a schizoid/schizotypal personality disorder. I looked it up and why it is even a disorder is beyond me, just a lifestyle preference that I happen to have. I guess since I am not a cookie cutter person who is clingy and needs a lot of close friends I must have a mentall illness right? Just because I prefer accquantances over close friends, and really do not care to fit in with over people does not make me a bad person IMO.

Does anyone have any insight what this means for a first class medical? To me most of these "personality disorders" are nothing but a racket for the fat cats in the medical industry to stuff their pockets full of hard earned money and trying to create problems in people that really do not have problems. I have functioned just fine in society my whole life. Everyone has different tempraments and it is beyond absurd to have people telling you something is wrong with you just because you aren't a sheeple.
 
I'm not a 'shrink', but I don't think being a loner is a personality disorder. Lots of folk like that in the world.
 
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So I haven't been offically diagnosed but was told that I most likely have a schizoid/schizotypal personality disorder.
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Told by whom? By a psychiatrist who examined you, or just by somebody who happens to read Psychology Today as a hobby? If the latter, it means nothing to the FAA. If the former, then the question is whether or not this personality disorder (not the same as the actual "psychosis" of schizophrenia) "is severe enough to have repeatedly manifested itself by overt acts". If not, then it's not an issue, even at the First Class level (see 14 CFR 67.107(a)(1)). OTOH, if you do have a long history of "overt acts" of this nature, you now "have reason to know" that you do not meet the standards for an FAA medical certificate at any level (see 14 CFR 67.307(a)(1)) even without an official diagnosis and you're grounded pending further evaluation.

What constitutes an "overt act" in this context? From the FAA's AME Guide:
The category of personality disorders severe enough to have repeatedly manifested itself by overt acts refers to diagnosed personality disorders that involve what is called "acting out" behavior. These personality problems relate to poor social judgment, impulsivity, and disregard or antagonism toward authority, especially rules and regulations. A history of long-standing behavioral problems, whether major (criminal) or relatively minor (truancy, military misbehavior, petty criminal and civil indiscretions, and social instability), usually occurs with these disorders. Driving infractions and previous failures to follow aviation regulations are critical examples of these acts.
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And as far as the last sentence, remember this is in the context of "a history of long-standing behavioral problems", not just one traffic ticket or FAA violation.

So, is that you? :dunno:
 
Ron Levy said:
Told by whom? By a psychiatrist who examined you, or just by somebody who happens to read Psychology Today as a hobby? If the latter, it means nothing to the FAA. If the former, then the question is whether or not this personality disorder (not the same as the actual "psychosis" of schizophrenia) "is severe enough to have repeatedly manifested itself by overt acts". If not, then it's not an issue, even at the First Class level (see 14 CFR 67.107(a)(1)). OTOH, if you do have a long history of "overt acts" of this nature, you now "have reason to know" that you do not meet the standards for an FAA medical certificate at any level (see 14 CFR 67.307(a)(1)) even without an official diagnosis and you're grounded pending further evaluation.

What constitutes an "overt act" in this context? From the FAA's AME Guide:
And as far as the last sentence, remember this is in the context of "a history of long-standing behavioral problems", not just one traffic ticket or FAA violation.

So, is that you? :dunno:
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Basically I self disclosed for a substance abuse problem and entered the HIMS program. During treatment a psychiatrist told me that it is likely I have one of those schizotypal/schizoid disorders, however, he said he would defer any diagnosis to the HIMS psychiatrist that will do my evaluation later on since I wasn't off mood altering chemicals for very long when he spoke with me. In my file he instructed whomever does my eval to be sure and determine if I have one of those 2 disorders. I didn't have behavioral problems except for abusing alcohol/pills(impulse control). I basically just preferred living more like a cat(social on my own terms, tend to be more of a distant person, etc). I have since emailed Dr. Bruce and he pointed me in the right direction. I have already self grounded and am currently focusing on completing my aftercare/meetings and hopefully someday returning to the cockpit. Thank you for your information as well. At least I know the personality disorder alone isn't disqualifying. The good doc said it is harder but not impossible so as long as I have something to shoot for that is all I can ask really. I am not worried about flying LSA so a denial isn't the end of the world in my case.
 
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Basically I self disclosed for a substance abuse problem and entered the HIMS program. During treatment a psychiatrist told me that it is likely I have one of those schizotypal/schizoid disorders, however, he said he would defer any diagnosis to the HIMS psychiatrist that will do my evaluation later on since I wasn't off mood altering chemicals for very long when he spoke with me. In my file he instructed whomever does my eval to be sure and determine if I have one of those 2 disorders. I didn't have behavioral problems except for abusing alcohol/pills(impulse control). I basically just preferred living more like a cat(social on my own terms, tend to be more of a distant person, etc). I have since emailed Dr. Bruce and he pointed me in the right direction. I have already self grounded and am currently focusing on completing my aftercare/meetings and hopefully someday returning to the cockpit. Thank you for your information as well. At least I know the personality disorder alone isn't disqualifying. The good doc said it is harder but not impossible so as long as I have something to shoot for that is all I can ask really. I am not worried about flying LSA so a denial isn't the end of the world in my case.
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That's far more information than I cared to know, other than that you're working with Bruce. If you want to fly again, listen to him and do exactly what he says. I wish you luck, although personal determination rather than luck is the probably the biggest element of making this happen.
 
Unregistered said:
So I haven't been offically diagnosed but was told that I most likely have a schizoid/schizotypal personality disorder. I looked it up and why it is even a disorder is beyond me, just a lifestyle preference that I happen to have. I guess since I am not a cookie cutter person who is clingy and needs a lot of close friends I must have a mentall illness right? Just because I prefer accquantances over close friends, and really do not care to fit in with over people does not make me a bad person IMO.

Does anyone have any insight what this means for a first class medical? To me most of these "personality disorders" are nothing but a racket for the fat cats in the medical industry to stuff their pockets full of hard earned money and trying to create problems in people that really do not have problems. I have functioned just fine in society my whole life. Everyone has different tempraments and it is beyond absurd to have people telling you something is wrong with you just because you aren't a sheeple.
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It's a little offensive that you claim it's just the "medical industry" trying to create problems where none exist. These diagnoses exist because people complain about certain problems and we have to find a way to separate them and help them. I doubt a doctor walked up to you on the street and diagnosed you. I bet there's a story behind this...

That being said, there's no "test" that will diagnose it. It's just a list of characteristics. If you aren't interested don't pursue any further evaluation or counseling.

Edit: Just read rest of thread. Oh well.
 
Unregistered said:
So I haven't been offically diagnosed but was told that I most likely have a schizoid/schizotypal personality disorder. I looked it up and why it is even a disorder is beyond me, just a lifestyle preference that I happen to have. I guess since I am not a cookie cutter person who is clingy and needs a lot of close friends I must have a mentall illness right? Just because I prefer accquantances over close friends, and really do not care to fit in with over people does not make me a bad person IMO.

Does anyone have any insight what this means for a first class medical? To me most of these "personality disorders" are nothing but a racket for the fat cats in the medical industry to stuff their pockets full of hard earned money and trying to create problems in people that really do not have problems. I have functioned just fine in society my whole life. Everyone has different tempraments and it is beyond absurd to have people telling you something is wrong with you just because you aren't a sheeple.
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First class medical aside, are you planning on flying commercially? You don't strike me as someone who would enjoy spending 8 or more hours a day sharing a cockpit with another pilot. Are you planning on doing all of your flying solo? Most professional pilots seem to have a modicum of social skills; otherwise it makes for a lot of awkward, uncomfortable time.
 
Lindbergh liked to be alone most of the time as did Edison. Personally, I like to be alone in my laboratory late at night when it's raining, lots of lightning! I've flown for fifty years.
 
Mine isn't too severe I guess, the doctor just said I was borderline.
 
Unregistered said:
So I haven't been offically diagnosed but was told that I most likely have a schizoid/schizotypal personality disorder. I looked it up and why it is even a disorder is beyond me
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Because they don't want you arguing with yourself about whether or not to abort the landing, and compromising by going to 100% on Engine 1 and Idle Cutoff on Engine 2.
 
Brad Z said:
First class medical aside, are you planning on flying commercially? You don't strike me as someone who would enjoy spending 8 or more hours a day sharing a cockpit with another pilot. Are you planning on doing all of your flying solo? Most professional pilots seem to have a modicum of social skills; otherwise it makes for a lot of awkward, uncomfortable time.
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He should be a helicopter pilot, they are all loner nutjobs.:D
 
No - it's pronounced "EYE-gore".

"Wasn't that hump on the other side?"

"What hump?"
 
"Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: Igor, would you mind telling me whose brain I did put in?
Igor: And you won't be angry?
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: I will NOT be angry.
Igor: Abby -- someone.
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: Abby someone. Abby who?
Igor: Abby Normal.
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: Abby Normal?
Igor: I'm almost sure that was the name.
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: Are you saying that I put an abnormal brain into a seven and a half foot long, fifty-four inch wide GORILLA?
 
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