Passed my commercial multi add on!

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I passed my multi add on today! Many thanks to Tom at Traverse Air. If you need your multi done quickly, efficiently, and safely go with Tom. He's a great instructor. I'll start from the beginning

Day 1/2: I hopped on a commercial flight to Grand Rapids and it was about an hour and a half drive to Cadillac which is south of Traverse City. I arrived in Cadillac on Friday and weather was miserable with snow and rain. However looking at the forecasts, the weather was supposed to clear up by Friday night/Saturday early morning. I went to the local Walmart and got some food for the weekend and went to the hotel to relax and study. On Saturday I met Tom at CAD around 830-845 and we discussed what the plan of action was, went over systems, what the check ride was like, and a brief overview of the cock put layout. We went outside to his 1955 Piper Apache, fueled it up a bit and we did the pre flight together. Then we got into the plane and he showed where all the switches were, gauges, etc. I was chair flying quite a bit before I got there so I was pretty familiar where everything was. We got out to the practice area and it was very quiet. We did a short field takeoff and he briefed me before he was going to simulate an engine failure before rotation. Pretty simple maneuver and straight forward. After we did another short field and we climbed and did some maneuvers. Steep turns, slow flight, power off/on stalls, accelerated stalls, and emergency descent. He then showed me a Vmc demonstration and an engine shutdown. I was surprised at how benign it was and it was really a non issue. We then went through the procedures of shutting down the engine and he explained he didn't like to do it every time because of the stress it puts on the engine. We came back in and did the single engine ILS 7 circle to 25 without the foggles and practice a single engine landing, normal landing, and short field. I struggled with the landings a bit and I tended to chop the power way too early and we just pancaked it in. The Apache has a really fat wing and isn't that aerodynamic so I had to keep reminding myself not to yank the power out. We went for a lunch break, talked a little more about systems and then did flight 2 which consisted of the same thing as the first flight except I put the foggles on when we did the approach. We finished up around 4pm and I was exhausted. I got some food, went back to the hotel, studied and watched some tv and went to bed.

Day 3: I met Tom at 845 and we got out to the plane and did the same thing. This flight was more or less like the check ride and we just polished up a few things. Second flight was a lot shorter and Tom said I was ready although my landings were still not great. They were passable but not great. Now for the check ride! Kevin met us around 1pm and we exchanged pleasantries and went through IACRA. He's a retired NWA pilot and now does some part time Part 91 flying in a TBM. We dove right into the oral and talked a bout weight and balance, accelerate stop distance, accelerate go distance, would I take off with the current weight in Denver in 90 degrees, single engine and two engine climb rate differences, and lots of scenario based performance questions. Asked about Vmc and how different factors affect it. Very in depth with systems, electrical, hydraulic, props, how I would handle various emergencies. A lot of the emergency scenarios were not in the POH so I needed to have a good understanding of systems. Overall oral was straight forward and he told me he have me a hard oral but I have a very good understanding of systems. On to the flying part. I pre flight end the plane and started up. We did a short field takeoff and on the roll, he cut one of the engines as expected. We stopped and he told me I had the engine back and continue. We climbed out and at 500ft I was ready for him to cut an engine but he didn't. We got out to the practice area and did all the maneuvers. Nailed all the maneuvers and the engine shutdown. He just mentioned that he wanted me to recover from Vmc a little earlier but it was within PTS. He gave me vectors for the ILS 7 and due to the winds we had to do a circle to land. Flew the ILS fine and we did a single engine landing. We got both engines back and we did a short field landing. A little form but it was alright. My single engine landing was a lot better. Then we did a normal landing to a full stop. As we taxied off the runway he congratulated me and told me I passed as long as I don't hit anything on the way to the hangar! He gave me some pointers and we finished up the paper work inside. Tom was already starting with his next student and he congratulated me. It was exhausting two days but well worth it! I have 7 hours of multi. Only 43 more!
 
Gratz! What do you plan to do with that cert?
 
Gratz! What do you plan to do with that cert?
Thanks! We'll see what kind of opportunities come up. One of my regular student's dad knows some operators that look for people to fill the right seat of a King Air, 421 and a 414 so we'll see how that goes.
 
All you really need is 18 more If you want to go to an airline. Thats sounds identical to my experience with Tom. Congrats and have fun in the twins.
 
All you really need is 18 more If you want to go to an airline. Thats sounds identical to my experience with Tom. Congrats and have fun in the twins.
I hear everyone except for Endeavor wants 25 hours.
 
Congrats and good luck!
 
Did you have a couple hours dual in a twin before doing the add-on? Seems you need 10 hours.

(b) For an airplane multiengine rating. Except as provided in paragraph (i) of this section, a person who applies for a commercial pilot certificate with an airplane category and multiengine class rating must log at least 250 hours of flight time as a pilot that consists of at least:

(1) 100 hours in powered aircraft, of which 50 hours must be in airplanes.

(2) 100 hours of pilot-in-command flight time, which includes at least—

(i) 50 hours in airplanes; and

(ii) 50 hours in cross-country flight of which at least 10 hours must be in airplanes.

(3) 20 hours of training on the areas of operation listed in §61.127(b)(2) of this part that includes at least—

(i) Ten hours of instrument training using a view-limiting device including attitude instrument flying, partial panel skills, recovery from unusual flight attitudes, and intercepting and tracking navigational systems. Five hours of the 10 hours required on instrument training must be in a multiengine airplane;

(ii) 10 hours of training in a multiengine airplane that has a retractable landing gear, flaps, and controllable pitch propellers, or is turbine-powered, or for an applicant seeking a multiengine seaplane rating, 10 hours of training in a multiengine seaplane that has flaps and a controllable pitch propeller;

(iii) One 2-hour cross country flight in a multiengine airplane in daytime conditions that consists of a total straight-line distance of more than 100 nautical miles from the original point of departure;

(iv) One 2-hour cross country flight in a multiengine airplane in nighttime conditions that consists of a total straight-line distance of more than 100 nautical miles from the original point of departure; and

(v) Three hours in a multiengine airplane with an authorized instructor in preparation for the practical test within the preceding 2 calendar months from the month of the test.

(4) 10 hours of solo flight time in a multiengine airplane or 10 hours of flight time performing the duties of pilot in command in a multiengine airplane with an authorized instructor (either of which may be credited towards the flight time requirement in paragraph (b)(2) of this section), on the areas of operation listed in §61.127(b)(2) of this part that includes at least—
 
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Did you have a couple hours dual in a twin before doing the add-on? Seems you need 10 hours.
That's if you do the multi as your initial. I did my single engine as my initial. For the add on it's how ever many hours it takes to get the applicant proficient.
 
Thanks! We'll see what kind of opportunities come up. One of my regular student's dad knows some operators that look for people to fill the right seat of a King Air, 421 and a 414 so we'll see how that goes.

Go for the King Air. Don't waste time on the twin Cessna's.

How much total time do you have?
 
Congrats! Thanks for the writeup. Sounds like an exhausting experience to me.

What material did you use for study before you arrived at Traverse Air?
Tom sent me his own material about a month before I arrived. It included the POH, oral questions, checklist, and SOP. I also studied the multi engine chapter in the Airplane Flying Handbook.
 
where is that written, as in what reg ? thanks
§ 61.63 Additional aircraft ratings (other than on an airline transport pilot certificate)
(c) Additional aircraft class rating. A person who applies for an additional class rating on a pilot certificate:
(1) Must have a logbook or training record endorsement from an authorized instructor attesting that the person was found competent in the appropriate aeronautical knowledge areas and proficient in the appropriate areas of operation.
(2) Must pass the practical test.
(3) Need not meet the specified training time requirements prescribed by this part that apply to the pilot certificate for the aircraft class rating sought; unless, the person only holds a lighter-than-air category rating with a balloon class rating and is seeking an airship class rating, then that person must receive the specified training time requirements and possess the appropriate aeronautical experience.
(4) Need not take an additional knowledge test, provided the applicant holds an airplane, rotorcraft, powered-lift, weight-shift-control aircraft, powered parachute, or airship rating at that pilot certificate level.
 
derp, i shoulda known that ! thanks :)

i had category on the brain not class :redface:
 
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Some pictures from the weekend. Of course I had to get a picture of us shutting down the left engine!

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