PA28R-180 Piper Arrow Panel Upgrade Talk

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mandm said:
mandm said:
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Hah! I had to do a double take there and go back to the "3D Printed Aircraft Parts" group I'm in on Facebook, because that yoke horn kinda looks 3D printed. The one I just saw a few days ago there is different, though.

What are your buttons? Your horn is a lot like mine, and my left index finger button is my PTC for the GTX 350c, with the PTT under the index finger when not extended.
 
mscheuer said:
Thanks for selecting our PMA450C, I hope it has met all of your audio panel requirements1
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Mark, I noticed you were on this forum and I had a question to ask regarding the PMA 450C that you would probably have the answer to. Is there any way to use the USB C port on the face of the PMA 450C to stream music through to the PMA 450C? I feel like it would be a lot easier to plug it in there, charge my phone, and play music through there as well. Not a huge deal but it would be very nice to have that extra convenience in my opinion.

Thank you in advance. -DB
 
WilgaFlyer944 said:
Mark, I noticed you were on this forum and I had a question to ask regarding the PMA 450C that you would probably have the answer to. Is there any way to use the USB C port on the face of the PMA 450C to stream music through to the PMA 450C? I feel like it would be a lot easier to plug it in there, charge my phone, and play music through there as well. Not a huge deal but it would be very nice to have that extra convenience in my opinion.

Thank you in advance. -DB
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The USB C port is charging only.
 
Hang 4 said:
The USB C port is charging only.
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@WilgaFlyer944 - as an aside, there are two bluetooth connections as well as two wired connections for music. Think the wired would allow for a panel jack if you wanted it, but these days, bluetooth seems ubiquitous. I just use BT for music and also for clearances at un-towered airports.
 
Hang 4 said:
@WilgaFlyer944 - as an aside, there are two bluetooth connections as well as two wired connections for music. Think the wired would allow for a panel jack if you wanted it, but these days, bluetooth seems ubiquitous. I just use BT for music and also for clearances at un-towered airports.
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Hang, I knew it had Bluetooth but I honestly haven't had any good experiences with it on the road at highway speeds but it might be different in the air and with a quality unit. I'll have to look into it. I prefer a physical connection most the time if I'm moving at high speeds anyway but I will be even more impressed with PS Engineering if it holds a solid BT connection for a whole flight. I'm going to look into putting in a USB C port somewhere on the panel anyway just for the anyhow. Thank you for the last response on the USB C port on the face of the unit.
 
WilgaFlyer944 said:
Hang, I knew it had Bluetooth but I honestly haven't had any good experiences with it on the road at highway speeds but it might be different in the air and with a quality unit. I'll have to look into it. I prefer a physical connection most the time if I'm moving at high speeds anyway but I will be even more impressed with PS Engineering if it holds a solid BT connection for a whole flight. I'm going to look into putting in a USB C port somewhere on the panel anyway just for the anyhow. Thank you for the last response on the USB C port on the face of the unit.
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Why would speed have ANYTHING to do with a BlueTooth connection????????

The two devices are same distant apart the whole time. And wind does not affect radio waves (with BT is).

If you are talking about SXM, that is between the satellite and your receiver and has nothing to do with BT.
 
Pinecone said:
Why would speed have ANYTHING to do with a BlueTooth connection????????

The two devices are same distant apart the whole time. And wind does not affect radio waves (with BT is).

If you are talking about SXM, that is between the satellite and your receiver and has nothing to do with BT.
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I will admit I completely forgot about that. I was also referring to the speed at which I was moving, nothing about the wind. I see why my earlier statement made no sense.

I had my expensive aftermarket car stereo pop in my head when I saw BlueTooth in the PMA 450 and figured it would be the same issues and didn't think more about it after that. I'm just going to hope this Audio Panel works better than the aftermarket car stereo of expensive disappointment. Knowing PS Engineering, I'm sure it will work perfectly.

Who knows. Maybe I will install a PMA 450C in my car next time. :crazy:
 
Pinecone said:
Why would speed have ANYTHING to do with a BlueTooth connection????????

The two devices are same distant apart the whole time. And wind does not affect radio waves (with BT is).

If you are talking about SXM, that is between the satellite and your receiver and has nothing to do with BT.
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The devices can outrun the EM waves, obviously. If you are going fast, you can put the transmitter in front, and the electrons will flow backwards into the receiver.

Don't they teach science in school anymore?
 
Ed Haywood said:
The devices can outrun the EM waves, obviously. If you are going fast, you can put the transmitter in front, and the electrons will flow backwards into the receiver.

Don't they teach science in school anymore?
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Bluetooth is bidirectional, so what you're really up against is something akin to retreating blade stall. Didn't they teach absurdism when you went to school? :)

@mandm I can't help get your plane back but it looks awesome. I'm going to show the picture to my friend who bought my Arrow a few years ago. I'm sure he'll thank me for helping him delay retirement by another couple of decades.
 
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