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Hey all,
I'm back trying to see if I can get going on training. I'd like to take another "discovery" type flight to see if nerves subside, but in the meant time- I'm starting smaller inexpensive steps that I can knock out. Worst case is I have a ton of interesting knowledge and only out a few 100 bucks.

So, I'm enrolled in the Gold Seal online school and hope to take (and pass) the written before I start flight training- maybe in the next 2 months.

Should I also go ahead and get my medical done too, or do I need to be in the FAA system for that to count?

I'm trying to do as much as possible before I start flight training- -is there anything else I should be doing? Thanks in advance!
 
Good idea to look into the medical early. Make sure there are no surprises.
 
Just find one off the FAA site, and make the appointment? Or do I need to have already passed TSA and Homeland security before i go to the doc? Thanks
 
Good idea to look into the medical early. Make sure there are no surprises.
Yeah. You can get a 'consulting' physical with an AME to find out where you stand before going formal with the application. It could be a lot easier to get any problem fixed before the 'real' physical than getting it fixed through the 'process.' Once you're 'on the radar' it can be a tedious process.
 
Just find one off the FAA site, and make the appointment? Or do I need to have already passed TSA and Homeland security before i go to the doc? Thanks

Tell us where you are. You might some good recommendations
 
I'm in northern burbs in Atlanta. I'm on the FAA website. Some of these AME's are listed as First Class. Does that mean they only do first class exams, or can they also scale back to do third class?

I'd not heard of the Consulting physical yet. I just passed my latest regular physical with flying colors, but I'm also over 40- -so maybe doing a "consulting" is a good idea first?
 
Just find one off the FAA site, and make the appointment? Or do I need to have already passed TSA and Homeland security before i go to the doc? Thanks

Answers here are for both the benefit of the OP and any other lurkers that come across this information.
  1. No Homeland or TSA required to visit the Aviation Medical Examiner (AME)
  2. Before setting your appointment with the AME, thoroughly review all of the questions regarding medical history, doctor visits, medications, and law enforcement encounters. Keep in mind that the preamble is "Have You Ever In Your Life...". These questions can be found by googling for the current FAA Form 8500-8, or starting on Page 24 of the MedXpress User's Guide
    • If any of these questions requires a yes answer, or you have had a bad run in with law enforcement, or you had taken medication for a psychiatric condition (including anxiety, depression, ADD/ADHD), do not proceed to the AME.
      • You may have a live hand grenade in your medical past.
      • And proceeding to the AME without being properly prepared is like pulling the pin.
    • For the item you answered yes to, start researching what it is that the FAA wants to know about you and these conditions, medications, doctor visits.
    • Only proceed to the AME once you have gathered 100% of any and all required documentation the FAA is going to want on these conditions, medications, doctor visits.
  3. Only proceed to the AME once you know 100% (and then some) that the AME will issue your certificate in the office and not deny or defer you.
    • You want to avoid deferral and denial at all costs. These happen when the applicant is not properly prepared and "bombs" into the office not knowing that their history is going to cause problems.
    • Deferral means that the AME cannot issue in the office and must send your application to Oklahoma City (FAA Central) to be decided on. Expect a reply of some form (issue, denial, or need more info) in about 12-16 weeks.
    • Denial means that something about your history is going to keep you from your dream of flight.... forever.
  4. If you have questions about your medical history or the process of the FAA approving your application,
    • call the AME to setup a consultative office visit.
    • You will be asked to pay his fee, but that's okay since you are taking up his time
    • You may be asked to fill out the online MedXpress in advance.
      • This is okay, however, after printing out the paper copy, grab scissors and remove the confirmation number that appears at the bottom of the form.
      • While in consultative mode, in no circumstance will you surrender this confirmation number
      • The confirmation number is needed to make the exam go "live". But going live means the AME can only issue, deny or defer. You are here to avoid denial and deferral.
    • If after completing the consultative visit, the AME says he can issue you right then and there, now you can surrender the confirmation number.
    • If after completing the consultative visit, the AME says your application would be deferred due to X, Y, and/or Z, discuss with him what it is you need to go obtain and bring back that will satisfy the FAA and allow the AME to issue your certificate.
If your situation is crazy messy or crazy difficult, do not proceed to the local AME. Seek out one of the very senior difficult case AME's such as Dr. Bruce Chien, www.aeromedicaldoc.com. Dr. Bruce (and AME's like him) are well known to manage the case before the FAA is told about it. And do it in a way so that when it is sent to the FAA, the chance of issuance is near 100%. If there is a whiff of denial, the file will not be sent in.
 
Traveling so I don’t have the name, but the one in Roswell was pretty good. Pay attention to the “get your stuff straight before filling out forms” advice. I didn’t and was fine, but reading some other people’s experience I wish I had.
 
Answers here are for both the benefit of the OP and any other lurkers that come across this information.
  1. No Homeland or TSA required to visit the Aviation Medical Examiner (AME)
  2. Before setting your appointment with the AME, thoroughly review all of the questions regarding medical history, doctor visits, medications, and law enforcement encounters. Keep in mind that the preamble is "Have You Ever In Your Life...". These questions can be found by googling for the current FAA Form 8500-8, or starting on Page 24 of the MedXpress User's Guide
    • If any of these questions requires a yes answer, or you have had a bad run in with law enforcement, or you had taken medication for a psychiatric condition (including anxiety, depression, ADD/ADHD), do not proceed to the AME.
      • You may have a live hand grenade in your medical past.
      • And proceeding to the AME without being properly prepared is like pulling the pin.
    • For the item you answered yes to, start researching what it is that the FAA wants to know about you and these conditions, medications, doctor visits.
    • Only proceed to the AME once you have gathered 100% of any and all required documentation the FAA is going to want on these conditions, medications, doctor visits.
  3. Only proceed to the AME once you know 100% (and then some) that the AME will issue your certificate in the office and not deny or defer you.
    • You want to avoid deferral and denial at all costs. These happen when the applicant is not properly prepared and "bombs" into the office not knowing that their history is going to cause problems.
    • Deferral means that the AME cannot issue in the office and must send your application to Oklahoma City (FAA Central) to be decided on. Expect a reply of some form (issue, denial, or need more info) in about 12-16 weeks.
    • Denial means that something about your history is going to keep you from your dream of flight.... forever.
  4. If you have questions about your medical history or the process of the FAA approving your application,
    • call the AME to setup a consultative office visit.
    • You will be asked to pay his fee, but that's okay since you are taking up his time
    • You may be asked to fill out the online MedXpress in advance.
      • This is okay, however, after printing out the paper copy, grab scissors and remove the confirmation number that appears at the bottom of the form.
      • While in consultative mode, in no circumstance will you surrender this confirmation number
      • The confirmation number is needed to make the exam go "live". But going live means the AME can only issue, deny or defer. You are here to avoid denial and deferral.
    • If after completing the consultative visit, the AME says he can issue you right then and there, now you can surrender the confirmation number.
    • If after completing the consultative visit, the AME says your application would be deferred due to X, Y, and/or Z, discuss with him what it is you need to go obtain and bring back that will satisfy the FAA and allow the AME to issue your certificate.
If your situation is crazy messy or crazy difficult, do not proceed to the local AME. Seek out one of the very senior difficult case AME's such as Dr. Bruce Chien, www.aeromedicaldoc.com. Dr. Bruce (and AME's like him) are well known to manage the case before the FAA is told about it. And do it in a way so that when it is sent to the FAA, the chance of issuance is near 100%. If there is a whiff of denial, the file will not be sent in.
Definitely make this a sticky
 
Thanks all. I will check out the users' guide for sure. Mike- great write up, and I appreciate the advice.
 
Thanks all. I will check out the users' guide for sure. Mike- great write up, and I appreciate the advice.
You're welcome....

With the FAA medical, for each way a positive outcome can be achieved, there are multiple dozens for the application to go wrong. Through the contributions and guidance from AME's like Dr. Bruce, we have learned a lot about the process and want to make sure others know the best path.

Additional advice, once you have your medical, do all you can to remain healthy so you can keep it. But for the times in life when you aren't healthy, learn about when to self-ground yourself, and what you need to do to get ungrounded. Also be aware of what medications are bad ju-ju and which are acceptable alternatives.

And if your plans are just recreational flying (just for yourself and family versus becoming a pilot who is compensated to fly), read up on BasicMed.
 
The big ones that seem to surprisingly trip people up are childhood ADHD diagnoses (usually disclosed through medication prescribed such as Ritalin), SSRI usage, and DUI history.
 
Concur, great write up by Mike!

To the OP, if you're young, healthy and have never seen a doc for something other than a common cold, etc. and have never run into trouble with the law, then you're probably fine to start training. If you're older and/or have had some medical issues or criminal offenses to work through then I would suggest looking into the medical sooner rather than later. Or you could look into Light Sport...
 
You're welcome....

With the FAA medical, for each way a positive outcome can be achieved, there are multiple dozens for the application to go wrong.

I disagree with this statement. The reality is that the vast majority of people can get medical certificates. Supposedly 97% of folks applying for a special issuance are issued. It may take time (and money), but it's usually doable.

I think we have a tendency here to get jaded because we only hear of the problem cases. No one comes on and reports that they got their 3rd class without any problems.
 
Idahoflier- I am not old, but I'm not the young anymore! And I just had a physical in December where the doc said I was in great health. But when you start reading all of these questions prefaced with "HAVE YOU EVER IN YOUR LIFE" you start thinking down a bunch of different tangents. Like, 2 years ago I had in-office retina surgery to patch some lattice on a preventative basis. Had no symptoms or problems, they just wanted to proactively take care of it. So now I'm wondering if I need to go back to retinal specialist and get the 8500-7 filled out before I go to the AME. Sounds like yes.

Or- during the spring, my eyes get watery if I cut the grass. I take a Claritan and the symptoms disappear. Is that hay fever?

These forms are making me paranoid!
 
I agree... start bugging the MC to do this.

@Ted DuPuis @Mtns2Skies @Everskyward @Greg Bockelman

Mike, I'll bring it up to the other mods, but I don't inherently think making a thread a sticky because of a single post several posts into the thread is appropriate. Generally the point of a sticky is that it has an initial post which is worthwhile and relevant, and discussion after that that stays relevant. Furthermore, I think it's more relevant in "Medical Topics." Just my $0.02, but I'll bring it up.
 
Idahoflier- I am not old, but I'm not the young anymore! And I just had a physical in December where the doc said I was in great health. But when you start reading all of these questions prefaced with "HAVE YOU EVER IN YOUR LIFE" you start thinking down a bunch of different tangents. Like, 2 years ago I had in-office retina surgery to patch some lattice on a preventative basis. Had no symptoms or problems, they just wanted to proactively take care of it. So now I'm wondering if I need to go back to retinal specialist and get the 8500-7 filled out before I go to the AME. Sounds like yes.

Or- during the spring, my eyes get watery if I cut the grass. I take a Claritan and the symptoms disappear. Is that hay fever?

These forms are making me paranoid!

I'm not a physician, let alone an AME, so I can't intelligently answer your questions. However I would encourage you to ask around wherever you're going to take your training and/or discovery flight to see what AME's they may recommend. I would then follow Mike's advice above and schedule a consultation, or explain your situation to the AME for their opinion. I know a few AME's around my area that have you fill out the 8500-7 BUT NOT submit it to the FAA. If everything is good, then you can submit it.

I wouldn't be paranoid, it sounds like you don't have anything to worry about, but I would follow Mikes advice above...
 
Mike, I'll bring it up to the other mods, but I don't inherently think making a thread a sticky because of a single post several posts into the thread is appropriate. Generally the point of a sticky is that it has an initial post which is worthwhile and relevant, and discussion after that that stays relevant. Furthermore, I think it's more relevant in "Medical Topics." Just my $0.02, but I'll bring it up.
Then why not copy what I contributed into its own thread and sticky that? I think that is what Blanche was referring to.
 
You need to call dr Bruce, and pay his fee if he says he needs to see your records. Lots of potential hangups, like dui, drugs for add or depression. Drugs to help to get to sleep at night. Diabetes, sleep apnea, heart issues, blood pressure and as host of other things can be issues, best to know before you go. The eye thing will require advice beyond why you can get on a board unless someone like Dr Bruce chimes in.
 
Idahoflier- I am not old, but I'm not the young anymore! And I just had a physical in December where the doc said I was in great health. But when you start reading all of these questions prefaced with "HAVE YOU EVER IN YOUR LIFE" you start thinking down a bunch of different tangents. Like, 2 years ago I had in-office retina surgery to patch some lattice on a preventative basis. Had no symptoms or problems, they just wanted to proactively take care of it. So now I'm wondering if I need to go back to retinal specialist and get the 8500-7 filled out before I go to the AME. Sounds like yes.
It can definitely help to Have the eye doc say on that form that your original complaint was solved successfully and that he is not following you for any complications, and you are currently clear of any other eye issues.
Or- during the spring, my eyes get watery if I cut the grass. I take a Claritan and the symptoms disappear. Is that hay fever?

These forms are making me paranoid!
If the Claritan is OTC, then declaring to the FAA isn't required. However, use common sense to know if the allergy or the medication will cause you to not be fit to fly.

For me, Claritan will clear the symptoms for my seasonal pollen, but makes me drowsy and slightly thick headed. After dosing, I self ground and wait 48-72 hours for it to clear my system.
 
Answers here are for both the benefit of the OP and any other lurkers that come across this information.
  1. No Homeland or TSA required to visit the Aviation Medical Examiner (AME)
  2. Before setting your appointment with the AME, thoroughly review all of the questions regarding medical history, doctor visits, medications, and law enforcement encounters. Keep in mind that the preamble is "Have You Ever In Your Life...". These questions can be found by googling for the current FAA Form 8500-8, or starting on Page 24 of the MedXpress User's Guide
    • If any of these questions requires a yes answer, or you have had a bad run in with law enforcement, or you had taken medication for a psychiatric condition (including anxiety, depression, ADD/ADHD), do not proceed to the AME.
      • You may have a live hand grenade in your medical past.
      • And proceeding to the AME without being properly prepared is like pulling the pin.
    • For the item you answered yes to, start researching what it is that the FAA wants to know about you and these conditions, medications, doctor visits.
    • Only proceed to the AME once you have gathered 100% of any and all required documentation the FAA is going to want on these conditions, medications, doctor visits.
  3. Only proceed to the AME once you know 100% (and then some) that the AME will issue your certificate in the office and not deny or defer you.
    • You want to avoid deferral and denial at all costs. These happen when the applicant is not properly prepared and "bombs" into the office not knowing that their history is going to cause problems.
    • Deferral means that the AME cannot issue in the office and must send your application to Oklahoma City (FAA Central) to be decided on. Expect a reply of some form (issue, denial, or need more info) in about 12-16 weeks.
    • Denial means that something about your history is going to keep you from your dream of flight.... forever.
  4. If you have questions about your medical history or the process of the FAA approving your application,
    • call the AME to setup a consultative office visit.
    • You will be asked to pay his fee, but that's okay since you are taking up his time
    • You may be asked to fill out the online MedXpress in advance.
      • This is okay, however, after printing out the paper copy, grab scissors and remove the confirmation number that appears at the bottom of the form.
      • While in consultative mode, in no circumstance will you surrender this confirmation number
      • The confirmation number is needed to make the exam go "live". But going live means the AME can only issue, deny or defer. You are here to avoid denial and deferral.
    • If after completing the consultative visit, the AME says he can issue you right then and there, now you can surrender the confirmation number.
    • If after completing the consultative visit, the AME says your application would be deferred due to X, Y, and/or Z, discuss with him what it is you need to go obtain and bring back that will satisfy the FAA and allow the AME to issue your certificate.
If your situation is crazy messy or crazy difficult, do not proceed to the local AME. Seek out one of the very senior difficult case AME's such as Dr. Bruce Chien, www.aeromedicaldoc.com. Dr. Bruce (and AME's like him) are well known to manage the case before the FAA is told about it. And do it in a way so that when it is sent to the FAA, the chance of issuance is near 100%. If there is a whiff of denial, the file will not be sent in.
I think this should definitely be a sticky on the pilot training sub forum. Best medical 101 post i've seen. Right up there with Levy's checkride advice and Jason's leaseback advice! But yea, a new thread with only that post in it.
 
Answers here are for both the benefit of the OP and any other lurkers that come across this information.
  1. No Homeland or TSA required to visit the Aviation Medical Examiner (AME)
  2. Before setting your appointment with the AME, thoroughly review all of the questions regarding medical history, doctor visits, medications, and law enforcement encounters. Keep in mind that the preamble is "Have You Ever In Your Life...". These questions can be found by googling for the current FAA Form 8500-8, or starting on Page 24 of the MedXpress User's Guide
    • If any of these questions requires a yes answer, or you have had a bad run in with law enforcement, or you had taken medication for a psychiatric condition (including anxiety, depression, ADD/ADHD), do not proceed to the AME.
      • You may have a live hand grenade in your medical past.
      • And proceeding to the AME without being properly prepared is like pulling the pin.
    • For the item you answered yes to, start researching what it is that the FAA wants to know about you and these conditions, medications, doctor visits.
    • Only proceed to the AME once you have gathered 100% of any and all required documentation the FAA is going to want on these conditions, medications, doctor visits.
  3. Only proceed to the AME once you know 100% (and then some) that the AME will issue your certificate in the office and not deny or defer you.
    • You want to avoid deferral and denial at all costs. These happen when the applicant is not properly prepared and "bombs" into the office not knowing that their history is going to cause problems.
    • Deferral means that the AME cannot issue in the office and must send your application to Oklahoma City (FAA Central) to be decided on. Expect a reply of some form (issue, denial, or need more info) in about 12-16 weeks.
    • Denial means that something about your history is going to keep you from your dream of flight.... forever.
  4. If you have questions about your medical history or the process of the FAA approving your application,
    • call the AME to setup a consultative office visit.
    • You will be asked to pay his fee, but that's okay since you are taking up his time
    • You may be asked to fill out the online MedXpress in advance.
      • This is okay, however, after printing out the paper copy, grab scissors and remove the confirmation number that appears at the bottom of the form.
      • While in consultative mode, in no circumstance will you surrender this confirmation number
      • The confirmation number is needed to make the exam go "live". But going live means the AME can only issue, deny or defer. You are here to avoid denial and deferral.
    • If after completing the consultative visit, the AME says he can issue you right then and there, now you can surrender the confirmation number.
    • If after completing the consultative visit, the AME says your application would be deferred due to X, Y, and/or Z, discuss with him what it is you need to go obtain and bring back that will satisfy the FAA and allow the AME to issue your certificate.
If your situation is crazy messy or crazy difficult, do not proceed to the local AME. Seek out one of the very senior difficult case AME's such as Dr. Bruce Chien, www.aeromedicaldoc.com. Dr. Bruce (and AME's like him) are well known to manage the case before the FAA is told about it. And do it in a way so that when it is sent to the FAA, the chance of issuance is near 100%. If there is a whiff of denial, the file will not be sent in.

My AME basically stabbed me in the back. He knew my situation and lead me on and still sent in everything to the FAA. He said he wouldn't send in anything until I got the records but still did it anyways.
 
Hey all,
I'm back trying to see if I can get going on training. I'd like to take another "discovery" type flight to see if nerves subside, but in the meant time- I'm starting smaller inexpensive steps that I can knock out. Worst case is I have a ton of interesting knowledge and only out a few 100 bucks.

So, I'm enrolled in the Gold Seal online school and hope to take (and pass) the written before I start flight training- maybe in the next 2 months.

Should I also go ahead and get my medical done too, or do I need to be in the FAA system for that to count?

I'm trying to do as much as possible before I start flight training- -is there anything else I should be doing? Thanks in advance!

Mikes post is spot on. My initial medical got a little sideways because I didn’t “know before you go”. If you don’t have mental, OSA or criminal history, you should be good to go, but know, don’t “think”. Oh and War Eagle!
 
Answers here are for both the benefit of the OP and any other lurkers that come across this information

Isn't this a sticky somewhere here yet, so we can just link to it?

Awesome that you typed it up, though... Mike.
 
Would an admin please make Mike’s post a sticky before he has a hissy fit like @EdFred and takes it down? LOL.

Kidding Ed.

And yeah, I stashed copies of Ed’s thing way back in the day too, just like I’ll stash Mike’s.

And no, I won’t be publishing it on any websites without credit like Ed’s buddy in the other thread. Haha.
 
My AME basically stabbed me in the back. He knew my situation and lead me on and still sent in everything to the FAA. He said he wouldn't send in anything until I got the records but still did it anyways.
As you have come to realize by an unfortunate event, which AME you use is as important as the flight school or instructor.

Very few are like Dr. Bruce where they ask for records first and review them before allowing the appointment to be set. Or at least remain in consultation mode until they can determine if a live exam is worth starting.

@TempleOfMemories ... there are still many ways you can participate in aviation... and while pilot in command of a craft might not be there, a large number of activities still exist to scratch your flying itch.
 
Very few are like Dr. Bruce where they ask for records first and review them before allowing the appointment to be set.

Amen to that! I'm using Dr Bruce for my own pursuit of a third-class medical, and flying back to IL to see him in person. Even though my couple medical issues aren't horribly complicated, it's my first time through the medical process, and I wanted to make absolutely sure I have a pro in my corner guiding me through this process.
 
Wanted to echo the above. My flight school passed me a list of area AMEs and noted with great emphasis the positive experiences many pilots had with one particular doctor and noted the negative experiences folks had with another one. When I got to the office for my exam (third class), I learned my AME did a very high volume of 1st class exams with ATPs who travelled out of their way to meet him. He was very helpful in troubleshooting one answer I had put on the medical history. To make a short story long, I checked on my medical history I had Lasik nearly 10 years ago, which could prompt a deferral if I was unable to provide up-to-date documentation from an eye doctor. My AME was accommodating to allow me to track down an eye doctor to get a clean bill of health before he processed my paperwork and handed me my certificate. He also emphasized the need to abide by the guidelines pertaining to allergy medicines and the like to not only fly legal, but to fly safe.

Depending on your circumstances, it definitely pays to ask around to find a good AME for your needs.
 
Yeah, I had a real pip of an AME after my previous one retired. He outright lied, did things that Dr. B tells me should have gotten his designation pulled, and otherwise screwed things up that caused me to be grounded for about eight weeks (and it took the efforts of a new AME to undo the stupid SI that should have never been required in the first place as I didn't have the condition that the SI was for).

Just as with any other personal service from flight instructors to doctors to lawyers to home improvement people: GET REFERENCES, preferably from someone you trust.

AggieMike's advice is spot on, by the way.
 
I, too, vote for sticky status - in training and Medical Topics (or maybe linked from another sticky/FAQ in training?)

4 years ago, reading about Dr. Bruce on here saved my a**. After a year of wrangling I was issued thanks 100% to Dr. B. I was SUPER lucky since I happened to read about not going live and going to the local AME without all the proper documentation.

With that said - I did NOT wait to start my flight training. I was ready to solo (very ready) and actually far beyond that in my training when I finally got my medical.

I've since gone basic med, but should I ever want or need another FAA medical, I will just fly to see Dr. B. again. Not taking any chances.
 
So, I'm enrolled in the Gold Seal online school and hope to take (and pass) the written before I start flight training- maybe in the next 2 months.
I believe that doing online ground study should be done parallel with flight training. You will learn about concepts that may be hard to grasp without actually doing them in the airplane. Information from the ground study will stick easier if you have the practical experience of flight, aircraft, instruments, weather, etc. <- my 2 cents.
 
I believe that doing online ground study should be done parallel with flight training. You will learn about concepts that may be hard to grasp without actually doing them in the airplane. Information from the ground study will stick easier if you have the practical experience of flight, aircraft, instruments, weather, etc. <- my 2 cents.

I agree with this. I did have to pay my instructor for a few half hours here and there, but he would take my book, show me what we gonna do next and tell me to study and know it next time we flew. I didnt take a ground school "course", just me and my instructor talking about flying and studying my books. At some point he told me to go take the test, I did and on we went.
 
Hey all,
I'm back trying to see if I can get going on training. I'd like to take another "discovery" type flight to see if nerves subside, but in the meant time- I'm starting smaller inexpensive steps that I can knock out. Worst case is I have a ton of interesting knowledge and only out a few 100 bucks.

So, I'm enrolled in the Gold Seal online school and hope to take (and pass) the written before I start flight training- maybe in the next 2 months.

Should I also go ahead and get my medical done too, or do I need to be in the FAA system for that to count?

I'm trying to do as much as possible before I start flight training- -is there anything else I should be doing? Thanks in advance!

I have taught ground school classes that included folks like you who wanted to pass the written first. They really slowed things up for everyone else because I (of necessity) used terms with which those already flying were familiar but were brand new to the "ground school first" crowd. How this works with an online course is beyond my comprehension. Good luck.

Bob
 
Answers here are for both the benefit of the OP and any other lurkers that come across this information.

Why isn’t this post by AggieMike88 a sticky under Pilot Training or Medical Topics? I’m glad there is the https://tinyurl.com/ame-consult link, but it seems it really should be a sticky in both places, especially considering the increasing intrusion of the aeromedical division into all aspects of flying.
 
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