Old Parts (What to do with them)

Eric S

Eric S

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Unfortunately I just had to have a Cylinder and starter replaced on my 64 Cherokee 235, and now I have a Cylinder for an 0540 (Leaking exhaust valve) and a Bendix starter (Still working but on it's way out) sitting in my hangar.

Now I could just toss these, but 1 there is a lot of metal there so they should be recyclable and I have heard that people will buy core parts, and I know they may not be worth much but something is better than nothing, right?

So was wondering if anyone has any advice on where I can sell these or even send them so they can get properly recycled/reused.
 
Yeah I saw that thread, based on $100 switch value these should be worth at least $4000 :)

Honestly don't need to make anything off of these it just seems a waste chucking all that metal into a land fill.
 
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James331 said:
Well I heard anyone’s a fool for not paying $100 for a used switch?
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It's entertaining to find a guy so critical of someone that offered an unused new old stock part, with a 2017 date code, for less than a quarter of what honeywell sells it for, if a dealer were allowed to sell it.

I see someone looking for a part number for a switch of one of my favorite autopilots to work with, I happened to have the switch and let him know I would need to evaluate it, then let him know if I would sell it. I tested the switch, then, while on the phone with him I realized it was unused and told him it was a bonus. I spent time on the phone trying to educate the guy that replacing the switch was the way to start chasing down the other issues he encountered while nursing the switch that had decomposed. Like so many that I have seen before,the red button disintegrated, leaving the little actuator nub he was able to play with to prolong the replacement. While on the phone, I got a message from an old client that saw my offer. I explained I had it offered already, then he simply out bid the guy..

It's funny, that switch sold for over twice than what I asked for originally, to a very savvy, long time client. He even paid shipping and insisted he pay an hour for the advice and education I was able to provide.

I like the Beer tap idea with the cylinder!!!!

I have many old relics I display in my museum room, it started with my still prized piece, a Norden Bombsight Gyro, yet another new old stock part, complete with a zero hour logbook!
 
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Bob Weber said:
It's entertaining to find a guy so critical of someone that offered an unused new old stock part, with a 2017 date code, for less than a quarter of what honeywell sells it for, if a dealer were allowed to sell it.

I see someone looking for a part number for a switch of one of my favorite autopilot to work with, I happened to have the switch and let him know I would need to evaluate it, then let him know if I would sell it. I tested the switch, then, while on the phone with him I realized it was unused and told him it was a bonus. I spent time on the phone trying to educate the guy that replacing the switch was the way to start chasing down the other issues he encountered while nursing the switch that had decomposed. Like so many that I have seen before,the red button disintegrated, leaving the little actuator nub he was able to play with to prolong the replacement. While on the phone, I got a message from an old client that saw my offer. I explained I had it offered already, then he simply out bid the guy..

It's funny, that switch sold for over twice than what I asked for originally, to a very savvy, long time client. He even paid shipping and insisted he pay an hour for the advice and education I was able to provide.

I like the Beer tap idea with the cylinder!!!!

I have many old relics I display in my museum room, it started with my still prized piece, a Norden Bombsight Gyro, yet another new old stock part, complete with a zero hour logbook!
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I find it entertaining when someone, trying to peddle their commercial services, makes a post complaining about their customers, all because the guy couldn’t close a sale on a used switch.
 
James331 said:
I find it entertaining when someone, trying to peddle their commercial services, makes a post complaining about their customers, all because the guy couldn’t close a sale on a used switch.
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You spelled New Old Stock Part wrong, you would think, with nearly 20,000 posts, you would be able to get that kind of stuff right.

I intended on leaving aviation and pursue relaxing and playing with my Wife and traveling, within a week of being gone, I was being inundated with requests for me to "peddle", what at the time, was the beginning of webairconsultingLLC. Today I can now count three complaints, in nearly two years, with over 300 new clients, in several countries around the world. Many have recommended me to others.

I have no bone to pick with you and I guess I wonder what you are after here, other than to get to that 20,000 post mark? God is it?
 
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Dave Theisen said:
I like that! Gives my some ideas for my kegerator.
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I'm going to start selling them. Overhauled cylinders will be $850 plus parts and labor, new ones will be $1100. ;) Actually, I wonder if there would be a market for them? If I could source a few dozen I would be happy to sell them for about $300 for a two-faucet (intake/exhaust ports) and $375 for a three-holer (intake, exhaust, and one spark plug.) For an additional field approval I'll drill out the rocker cover and mount two more faucets up there, for a whopping total of 6 faucets per cylinder. Lower fins and rocker cover can be painted in your choice of colors, for example, gloss black lower fins, lacquered natural bare metal everywhere else, with a painted valve cover. I'm certain that with the amount of work it would take to source, obtain, refurb/clean/paint non-serviceable cylinders, and add faucets and lines, I could potentially earn dozens of half-dollars per unit, and likely sell at least one every 5-6 years... ;) I'll try to remember to post pics after mine is finished and ready to pour some hoppy 20W50 golden ale!
 
Bob Weber said:
You spelled New Old Stock Part wrong, you would think, with nearly 20,000 posts, you would be able to get that kind of stuff right.

I intended on leaving aviation and pursue relaxing and playing with my Wife and traveling, within a week of being gone, I was being inundated with requests for me to "peddle", what at the time, was the beginning of webairconsultingLLC. Today I can now count three complaints, in nearly two years, with over 300 new clients, in several countries around the world. Many have recommended me to others.

I have no bone to pick with you and I guess I wonder what you are after here, other than to get to that 20,000 post mark? God is it?
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I have figured it out, you got it all wrong bud

You’re obviously not a good salesman, you should get into proof reading, people love that anal-retentive grammar stuff in that industry.
 
Is this cylinder BER, ie the barrel worn out or some cracking?
How old is it?
I like to keep spares around and have a jug for each of my machines, for a quick swap. Ie, I could blow* one tomorrow and fly on Sunday.
So, if that cylinder only has a bad exhaust valve and nothing else huge-wrong with it...

*found defective, could be in a multitude of ways
 
I worked at a shop with an engine reman division, they used to have barrels full of scrap cylinders. I could see a line of those set up at the craft breweries we see these days. Back in the day, they financed the summer BBQ's with the cash from scrapping them.
 
Eric S said:
So was wondering if anyone has any advice on where I can sell these or even send them so they can get properly recycled/reused.
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I have a lunched Continenal O-470 cylinder upside down in a bucket as a planter. WIth no valves in them, the water doesn't collect to rot the roots.

Jim
 
Eric S said:
So was wondering if anyone has any advice on where I can sell these or even send them so they can get properly recycled/reused.
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E bay works to sell used parts. If aircraft specific post on forum for that plane. I have sold parts for 1/4 the value to help out a fellow pilot/owner.
 
Let'sgoflying! said:
Is this cylinder BER, ie the barrel worn out or some cracking?
How old is it?
I like to keep spares around and have a jug for each of my machines, for a quick swap. Ie, I could blow* one tomorrow and fly on Sunday.
So, if that cylinder only has a bad exhaust valve and nothing else huge-wrong with it...

*found defective, could be in a multitude of ways
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The only issue is the leaking exhaust valve, piston and bore is fine, a tiny bit of scuffing but no cracks or corrosion. The original cylinder is a factory Lycoming nickle cylinder.

Would have had it overhauled, but they wanted $795 for an OH and $1,100 for a new Nickle cylinder, so figured might as well.
 
AKBill said:
E bay works to sell used parts. If aircraft specific post on forum for that plane. I have sold parts for 1/4 the value to help out a fellow pilot/owner.
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Will try ebay, why not. Thanks
 
Eric S said:
The only issue is the leaking exhaust valve, piston and bore is fine, a tiny bit of scuffing but no cracks or corrosion. The original cylinder is a factory Lycoming nickle cylinder.
Would have had it overhauled, but they wanted $795 for an OH and $1,100 for a new Nickle cylinder, so figured might as well.
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How many hours?
Still might make a nice spare.
Find someone who will change the valve/guide/seat and run a hone? Difficult, I know.
 
Let'sgoflying! said:
How many hours?
Still might make a nice spare.
Find someone who will change the valve/guide/seat and run a hone? Difficult, I know.
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Based on the logs 450 hours. Interesting idea about fixing and keeping as a spare, will ask around to see if anyone does this around my area.
 
Let'sgoflying! said:
Is this cylinder BER, ie the barrel worn out or some cracking?
How old is it?
I like to keep spares around and have a jug for each of my machines, for a quick swap. Ie, I could blow* one tomorrow and fly on Sunday.
So, if that cylinder only has a bad exhaust valve and nothing else huge-wrong with it...

*found defective, could be in a multitude of ways
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That's what I did with the last cylinder I changed. Sent it to Alaska Aircraft Engines in Anchorage. Had them inspect and rebuild it. Now it's on the shelf to be used if needed. Total cost was $650.00.
 
Don George down in Florida used to have a steal of a deal for overhauling used cylinders, although for a low time cylinder with a leaking valve a simple repair/rehone/re-ring might suffice...

As for the starter: repair kits can be as low as $20 if the windings and bearings are all intact, then you have a spare starter... At the very least, try eBay...
 
James331 said:
I find it entertaining when someone, trying to peddle their commercial services, makes a post complaining about their customers, all because the guy couldn’t close a sale on a used switch.
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Well, now we know who the guy was on the other end of the conversation who got outbid. :rofl:
 
weirdjim said:
I have a lunched Continenal O-470 cylinder upside down in a bucket as a planter. WIth no valves in them, the water doesn't collect to rot the roots.

Jim
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I really like seeing this, eclectic as many may claim.

I have been saving this prop, reportedly 15 hours old, for over ten years.

The victim of a collapsed nose gear from a Bellanca Viking.

I have a big slab of hickory and a run out spinner that will bring the room together.

My Wife is resisting the saying "welcome to the lunatic fringe" cut into the hickory.

"When you jump into broken airplanes and fly them on purpose, routinely", is my response.

"to internal combustion and wind in the face" is on the side of my offshore boat.

I may have to settle with this since it will be ending up on the peak of the vaulted ceiling of our great room.
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Bob Weber said:
I really like seeing this, eclectic as many may claim.

I have been saving this prop, reportedly 15 hours old, for over ten years.

The victim of a collapsed nose gear from a Bellanca Viking.

I have a big slab of hickory and a run out spinner that will bring the room together.

My Wife is resisting the saying "welcome to the lunatic fringe" cut into the hickory.

"When you jump into broken airplanes and fly them on purpose, routinely", is my response.

"to internal combustion and wind in the face" is on the side of my offshore boat.

I may have to settle with this since it will be ending up on the the peak of the vaulted ceiling of our great room.
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I'm impressed with how far it bent, without breaking...tough stuff.
 
Shuswap BC said:
I'm impressed with how far it bent, without breaking...tough stuff.
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You should see what they look like when they're pulling full power all the way in, they twist up like a pretzel.
 
There is definitely a market for some used parts. For instance rebuilders of wet vacuum pumps charge a significant amount for cores since owners replacing their dry pumps with wet pumps have no core to return. Contact shops that rebuild the items you have and charge for a core.
 
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