Oh, the horrors, an engine failure 200' in the air on a 7200' runway

And they managed to stretch the article out 14 pages to cover that. Awesome..
 
Couldn't happen in a better place, props to the lad.
 
On the other hand, I say great job for being decisive and putting it down.
 
Puhleeze. I lost mine at 1200 agl a couple miles from the Mexico border on my fourth solo (first out of the pattern). Nobody wrote a news story on it.


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Let me shorten the story a little:

“53 Delta, you’re smoking, you’re smoking a lot. You may want to just land again,” a voice from the control tower urges Luna over his headset. The words come rapidly, but the voice remains calm.

So Luna landed the plane without incident"

The End
 
Jeez, this one isn't bad at all. It's all about decisions. It was not an engine failure. It was an IMMINENT engine failure, and a nice warning from a controller kept it that way. It could have been a whole lot worse had the pilot tried to fly around the pattern. The pilot had a human hesitation and then landed decisively. More indecision might have been problematic.

You guys are a tough crowd. Yeah, I've had an engine quit in the flare before, without any fanfare. BFD.
 
You guys are a tough crowd. Yeah, I've had an engine quit in the flare before, without any fanfare. BFD.
Well, it IS a BFD .... to the dumb idiots out there who sell by screaming "we're all gonna die!"
The dumber the article, the louder it screams, the more people could have "died", the better it sells. Do not underestimate the lack of IQ in the general populace.

Sounds like the kid did a good job.
Shhhhhhh! Do not say that out loud, the newscasters would surely disagree with you. He CRASHED (gently) and DESTROYED THE AIRPLANE (which can be reused) and KILLED (noone). Sheesh, learn how to report facts, won't ya? :D
 
For the record, I too had an engine failure on takeoff, VERY early in my training, 50 AGL or so. Landed on remaining rwy with no fuss. No news story about that.
CFI returned red handle to the fwd position, said "restart and taxi to the FBO, I'll solo you today". :)
 
Let me shorten the story a little:

“53 Delta, you’re smoking, you’re smoking a lot. You may want to just land again,” a voice from the control tower urges Luna over his headset. The words come rapidly, but the voice remains calm.

So Luna landed the plane without incident"

The End

You'd never make it in reporting. It's not a story until you tell the kid's whole life story including what he likes for breakfast and his favorite color.

Then of course you have to make it sound like he's on the same level as Sully by putting a 172 back on the runway and taxiing off.

C'mon now...:)
 
You mean the tower had to tell them that the smoking was coming from a broken engine, pretty amazing that the pilots couldn't tell.......
 
I wasn't complaining about the pilot. I was griping about the Dallas News's sensationalizing a rather trivial event.

What would you expect?? Football season is over and the Cowgirls failed again. They have nothing else to report.:D
 
You mean the tower had to tell them that the smoking was coming from a broken engine, pretty amazing that the pilots couldn't tell.......

With 60+ knots on the front, I wouldn't expect they could see much. On a Cessna, cowl airflow is most likely to blow smoke along the bottom of the airplane.
 
For the record, I too had an engine failure on takeoff, VERY early in my training, 50 AGL or so. Landed on remaining rwy with no fuss. No news story about that.
CFI returned red handle to the fwd position, said "restart and taxi to the FBO, I'll solo you today". :)

What a dangerous instructor..!!! I would never let him in my airplane..!!! How irresponsible this guy is...!!! Someone please think of the children..!!! :frown2: :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
Billy: It's finding the center of your story, the beating heart of it, that's what makes a reporter. You have to start by making up some headlines. You know: short, punchy, dramatic headlines. Now, have a look, what do you see?

[Points at dark clouds at the horizon]

Billy: Tell me the headline.

Quoyle: Horizon Fills With Dark Clouds?

Billy: Imminent Storm Threatens Village.

Quoyle: But what if no storm comes?

Billy: Village Spared From Deadly Storm.
 
This was a checkride. It sounds like it was with an FAA examiner and not a DPE. So that would kind of kick things up a notch.
 
They made it seem like he was debating continuing the ride with a badly smoking airplane.

I just picture him hearing that, keeping the power pegged, looking at the examiner, shrugging, saying "sissies". He gives one click of the mic, or maybe just replies "53 delta", and continues the climb out.

(then whistles, and looks out the side window casually, enjoying the view, then forward again like nothing happened)
 
With 60+ knots on the front, I wouldn't expect they could see much. On a Cessna, cowl airflow is most likely to blow smoke along the bottom of the airplane.

Well, read the article, perhaps I should have been clearer on original post. They lost a connecting rod that shot through the case.....so you lost a cylinder making power and it punched through solid metal. And the only way these morons knew something went wrong was when the tower told them? That is my point, perhaps the article is crap.
 
Frankly, if a crod went through the case, they KNEW they had a problem without the tower having to tell them. The vibration had to be pretty bad. 200' in the air with over 5000' of runway straight ahead, no brainer. This is the situation that instructors are supposed to instill on students at an early point in their training.
 
You guys are something else. This was actually a positive piece on General Aviation. Was it perfect? Well, no. Did the author take some liberties with the facts? Maybe. Maybe he wrote it to the best of his knowledge and ability. Who knows?

But I do know this, the young man flying the airplane did a good job getting it on the ground. He didn't hurt anyone, and as far as I can tell, the airframe is still usable after it gets a new engine.

It's really no wonder GA is dying with the support some of you guys display around here.
 
GA is dying because lots of people interested in flying find these boards to learn about the hobby, then read the drivel of the "experts". After that, they decide to do something else.

Then the "experts" all lament why GA is dying.
 
I suspect the main reason GA is dying is that fewer people are interested in doing it, possibly because flying (on the airlines) is an unpleasant experience for most people (in part thanks to the TSA, but it's just not fun to sit in an aluminum tube with little to no view of the outside, plus a lot of people find the physical sensations unpleasant and anxiety-provoking). Secondarily, of those who are interested in flying, a large percentage probably take a few lessons and realize how much it's going to cost to do it often enough to be worth the initial investment. After that, they decide to do something else.
 
You guys are something else. This was actually a positive piece on General Aviation. Was it perfect? Well, no. Did the author take some liberties with the facts? Maybe. Maybe he wrote it to the best of his knowledge and ability. Who knows?

But I do know this, the young man flying the airplane did a good job getting it on the ground. He didn't hurt anyone, and as far as I can tell, the airframe is still usable after it gets a new engine.

It's really no wonder GA is dying with the support some of you guys display around here.

Thanks for a good comment on the situation. The article didn't sensationalize the event, it was pretty straightforward.

Some of you really need to get a grip.
 
You guys are something else. This was actually a positive piece on General Aviation. Was it perfect? Well, no. Did the author take some liberties with the facts? Maybe. Maybe he wrote it to the best of his knowledge and ability. Who knows?

But I do know this, the young man flying the airplane did a good job getting it on the ground. He didn't hurt anyone, and as far as I can tell, the airframe is still usable after it gets a new engine.

It's really no wonder GA is dying with the support some of you guys display around here.
Yet here you are writing a negative post about the people who might have written a negative post about an article that might have been neutral about the non event.
Is the glass half full or half empty?
 
GA is dying because lots of people interested in flying find these boards to learn about the hobby, then read the drivel of the "experts". After that, they decide to do something else.

Then the "experts" all lament why GA is dying.

Holy banana banshees! Another one who believes POA posters are to blame! Do you really believe that crap? :mad2:
 
I probably need more coffee. But anyway.

THERE IS NO ONE REASON GA IS DYING!!!!

There are many. Demographics, video games, lack of middle class jobs for many, costs of all the associated stuff, regulation, etc., etc. Many feed on each other.

Every time I see one of these "You're the reason GA is dying!" thread derails, I think it. Today I was cranky enough to post it.

Carry on.
John
 
An update on the news story.
"Sources have confirmed that an 6 week old puppy has died in Topeka, KS. Authorities are investigating whether the harrowing experience reported on in the "Dallas News" were in any way to blame."
Film at 11:00.
 
An update on the news story.
"Sources have confirmed that an 6 week old puppy has died in Topeka, KS. Authorities are investigating whether the harrowing experience reported on in the "Dallas News" were in any way to blame."
Film at 11:00.
You left out "Is your puppy at risk? Details at 11."
 
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Marc is a great controller. I've never met him in person but he's worked me a number of times in and out of ADS.

Kudos to the CFI applicant. I'm assuming the inspector will consider rejected takeoffs satisfactory.

"Likes" on any controversial posts above are reflective of their comedic value to me and do not necessarily represent an endorsement of the views of those who wrote them.
 
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