[NA]Online death threats; Twitter[NA]

Take the young lady to the local range, get her comfortable and trained in the art of armed self defense, make sure she has a small reliable self defense tool and carries it religiously. This advice is not just for those actually receiving threats, but all women of all ages. Impress upon her that one does NOT advertise in any way that they are armed and willing to defend themselves, until the absolute need arises. Stating the ability to defend oneself makes it a challenge to the sickos. YMMV, some exclusions and limitations may apply.
 
It would be interesting if we could somehow accurately quantify the effect that Twitter, FaceBook, Instagram, et al. have had on the teen suicide rate. Sadly, they're such effective tools to bully, demean, shame, etc. I'm so glad that as a teen in high school I didn't have to compete for "likes" or compare how many FaceBook friends I had compared to others.

Back in the day, we had REAL friends!! I still have real friends...well..at least a couple! :) Quality over quantity, I say.
 
JOhnH said:
But my point was brought on by a conversation I had yesterday (with a young lady) who said that kids today mature much faster than they did in olden (my) day. I'm sorry, but I don't agree with that. Most college grads I see today are less mature than high school grads in "my day". Unless you gauge maturity on the size of her bust or the number of sexual encounters they have.
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Didn't we all think the same thing at that age.??

I never understood the saying... ''Youth is wasted on the young'' until I became old.
 
JOhnH said:
But my point was brought on by a conversation I had yesterday (with a young lady) who said that kids today mature much faster than they did in olden (my) day. I'm sorry, but I don't agree with that. Most college grads I see today are less mature than high school grads in "my day".
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I don't know where that is on average.

I know 19 year olds who live on their own and and pay their own bills and then there are 25 old college grads who melt if Dad wants to take them off his cellphone plan or suggests that she could get her own car insurance.
 
Me: I have a friend who started smoking and doc says if they quit now they should be able to avoid lung cancer.

Advice: Your friend should quit smoking.

Me: But they need to smoke because they want to.


That's how this thread reads to me.
 
Cam Bender said:
I don’t understand the need to be on Twitter, Facebook and other social media sites in order to be in contact with friends and family. That’s what the phone and email and face to face time is for. I am only on some hobby, personal interest or industry specific types of social media such as POA. The generic all comers type of sites are just cesspools and just provide a way for idiots from the ghetto to high offices to express their stupidity, bigotry and hatred.
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While I understand the sentiment, I DO believe that sites like FB, properly used, help you stay in contact those you love/care about. I can get an update on the goings-on with my friends/family members and local events in a succinct daily feed. I don't need to maintain a weekly call with 20+ people to hear about the 1 or 2 notable events. Often I get to see pictures of the events, instead of visualizing it. I don't have to play "phone tag" and people can share as much or as little as they like. I can call/text more private/intimate items to that person if more needs to be said than what I deem should be put online.

If you keep your friends list truly limited to those whom you wish to see, it removes most of the background noise. I think it's a great tool to stay in touch. However, I think the majority of people on FB simply want to add as many "friends" as possible, most of whom they've never met in-person. Same goes for Twitter (I'm not on Twitter). Sure, on FB or any other free service, YOU are the product being sold, but in my case, there's not much of me to sell. I do have longer phone calls with my closest friends/family on a monthly or quarterly basis, but it's nice to catch some of the stuff in-between without having to bug them for spare time.

In this particular case, the young woman (she is an adult, BTW) should either block the offending account (which can be done on Twitter I believe) and it would prevent them from posting anything to her feed. If that isn't sufficient, then she can contact Twitter directly and inform them of the abuse. If that doesn't work, then she needs to decide if it's really a personal threat to her safety, something she can ignore, or if it's best resolved by deleting the account and staying off of the service. It is UNNECESSARY to participate in a social media service, so not using it should impact her life minimally if she has her priorities straight.
 
Cam Bender said:
I don’t understand the need to be on Twitter, Facebook and other social media sites in order to be in contact with friends and family. That’s what the phone and email and face to face time is for. I am only on some hobby, personal interest or industry specific types of social media such as POA. The generic all comers type of sites are just cesspools and just provide a way for idiots from the ghetto to high offices to express their stupidity, bigotry and hatred.
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I use Facebook for just that, keeping in touch with friends and family that have scattered to all four corners of the globe. I myself live 800 miles away from any of my close family. That being said, I am a mature (depending on who you ask) adult, that uses it in moderation, and for a only that purpose. I place no value on likes or number of friendships. I neither bully nor am bullied. Facebook does not generate an emotional want or need for me. Every one of my FB friends I personally know and just want to stay in touch with.
 
Users of this social media platform warning that social media platforms are dangerous to society.

Pot meet kettle.
 
I missed the death threats on here.

There's also a vast difference between forums which are specialized and most member tend to have similar core values and the open to everybody Wild Wild West.

Its like comparing a mom and pop shop to Amazon.
 
Skip Miller said:
I understand your opinion and agree with it. Sorry, but the young gal in question is entitled to her opinion of this and you have no standing to impose your values on her.

-Skip
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I’m not imposing anything on anyone. Not sure how you thought I was doing anything other than sharing my perspective. But you can think whatever you like.
 
EdFred said:
I missed the death threats on here.

There's also a vast difference between forums which are specialized and most member tend to have similar core values and the open to everybody Wild Wild West.

Its like comparing a mom and pop shop to Amazon.
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The "wild, wild west" was nothing compared to the vitriol on some forums.
 
She and her parents are actively seeking assistance from the law, in its various forms.
The threats are specific and forceful enough that this should not be ignored and they are not going to.
She was told to stop dating that 'N___er' (man of color), or 'expect harm to come to her' (my paraphrase, it was more violent than that).

From the posts, you can tell the perpetrator has some familiarity with the people involved and their location.
Yes she has been advised to acquire a firearm and take LTC training however no one can assure complete self protection even with all available methods to do so.

Getting off social media may not put an end to this threat, in fact it may provide the law with further means to trace the messages as the person moves from medium to medium, account to account.
 
Let'sgoflying! said:
She and her parents are actively seeking assistance from the law, in its various forms.
The threats are specific and forceful enough that this should not be ignored and they are not going to.
She was told to stop dating that 'N___er' (man of color), or 'expect harm to come to her' (my paraphrase, it was more violent than that).

From the posts, you can tell the perpetrator has some familiarity with the people involved and their location.
Yes she has been advised to acquire a firearm and take LTC training however no one can assure complete self protection even with all available methods to do so.

Getting off social media may not put an end to this threat, in fact it may provide the law with further means to trace the messages as the person moves from medium to medium, account to account.
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Man, I would really like to be there when that trash is taken down.

I wonder if a private investigator could be of use here? I'd chip in $100 to help pay (that might buy an hour or two).
 
Kenny Phillips said:
The "wild, wild west" was nothing compared to the vitriol on some forums.
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Every forum I've been on had been moderated well enough that it never got to that point. Caveat: I was never a SZ participant so I don't know what went on behind the iron curtain.
 
I would say there's a big difference between a stalker/harrasser who has personal knowledge of their target vs some random internet idiot. I'd pursue traditional methods of finding out who it is- asking around, dropping information to see where it goes, etc. On the tech route, who knows maybe you've got a person who isn't very tech savvy and didn't use any kind of method to obscure their IP address... in which case yes it is possible to identify them and take legal action.
 
Let'sgoflying! said:
Yes she has been advised to acquire a firearm and take LTC training however no one can assure complete self protection even with all available methods to do so.
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Correct. A person needs to be emotionally ready to pull the trigger without another thought. If there is a possibility of not being able to pull the trigger, any firearm training becomes useless. But again, sometimes just showing a firearm in hand will be enough.

My mom is 87 and carries. I have told her if she ever has to put the gun in her hand, pull the trigger twice. Let them know the first shot was not an accident. She shoots well at the range.

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(not my mom, really)
 
Let'sgoflying! said:
She and her parents are actively seeking assistance from the law, in its various forms.
The threats are specific and forceful enough that this should not be ignored and they are not going to.
She was told to stop dating that 'N___er' (man of color), or 'expect harm to come to her' (my paraphrase, it was more violent than that).

From the posts, you can tell the perpetrator has some familiarity with the people involved and their location.
Yes she has been advised to acquire a firearm and take LTC training however no one can assure complete self protection even with all available methods to do so.

Getting off social media may not put an end to this threat, in fact it may provide the law with further means to trace the messages as the person moves from medium to medium, account to account.
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All the more reason to get off Twitter. Twitters policy is to protect the privacy of the harasser over the victim. Chances are, whoever this is doesn't have tools to follow through with it. This only works because Twitter gives him the tools to torment her. Take the tool away, the problem either goes away or he has to get to her in person person. If he shows up in person, he can be dealt with as necessary.
 
Zeldman said:
Correct. A person needs to be emotionally ready to pull the trigger without another thought. If there is a possibility of not being able to pull the trigger, any firearm training becomes useless. But again, sometimes just showing a firearm in hand will be enough.
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Sometimes ? Make that 90%. Few defensive gun uses involve the firing of a gun, even fewer involve someone getting hit.
 
Zeldman said:
Correct. A person needs to be emotionally ready to pull the trigger without another thought. If there is a possibility of not being able to pull the trigger, any firearm training becomes useless. But again, sometimes just showing a firearm in hand will be enough.

My mom is 87 and carries. I have told her if she ever has to put the gun in her hand, pull the trigger twice. Let them know the first shot was not an accident. She shoots well at the range.

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(not my mom, really)
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We had a family friend years ago whose uncle was pistol whipped and left for dead by someone who broke into his home...so she decided she needed a gun in the house. Fortunately the gun shop owner saw that she wouldn’t have the ability to pull the trigger on somebody, so he sold her pepper spray instead. No need to have her gun turned around on her.

My wife and girls carry pepper spray. My youngest has had to use it on dogs a couple of times while out running...she cried for an hour after he first one, but realized it was necessary (and perfectly legal) in the situation.

I’ve also told them I have no problem with them getting a concealed carry permit, but I also think a self defense course that teaches them to fight dirty (there are no fair fights, IMO) would also be very good for them.
 
If she's determined to keep her Twitter account, she doesn't need to delete it to block this person. Twitter has this functionality, just like POA and other social media, such as Facebook.

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She can also limit her visibility on the platform.
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I started using Twitter to follow various local government agencies. It seemed to be the fastest way to get road closure information when I lived in a rural county in Colorado. It comes in handy in the city too. Various agencies put out current information on their Twitter feeds. More current than the news, anyway.
 
It can work well, but a lot depends on how well you hide the body.

Plus, you really don't want to post about it on the Internet.

Oops.
 
JOhnH said:
Man, I would really like to be there when that trash is taken down.

I wonder if a private investigator could be of use here? I'd chip in $100 to help pay (that might buy an hour or two).
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If you want to burn $100 bucks lots more fun you have have with it, just buy some 100LL.

Legit, it’s facebook, who cares, besides I thought it was all fake and made by evil Russian robots.

Perhaps a good thing, she gets to learn about not posting personal info on the internet, let alone creepy sites like Facebook, frankly I’d be more worried about the databases and who zucks selling them to than some loonie toon.
 
All these posts have made the Twittergurl famous. So famous, in fact, that she can grab people in a posse.
 
Zeldman said:
I'm staying away from the bar-b-que around your place....:hairraise: :lol::lol:
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<====== Not a cannibal by any stretch of the imagination...Fish, shrimp, scallops, beef and chicken yes....human leave a bad after taste........:rolleyes::p
 
Craig said:
<====== Not a cannibal by any stretch of the imagination...Fish, shrimp, scallops, beef and chicken yes....human leave a bad after taste........:rolleyes::p
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Same here, but I do hear as far as those things go, socialists are very lean

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