Medical Wait Time!

Are you going to argue with the Dr. about your child having depression, anxiety or some other "mental health" issue for long or try the drugs?
Yes, 1000%. For most people, CBT works as well as SSRIs. So that would be my first choice. And for an adolescent especially, I would not give them anything that rewires their brain, except as an absolute last resort. And I would never, under any circumstances, put them on a psychoactive medication except under treatment by a psychiatrist.
 
Yes, 1000%. For most people, CBT works as well as SSRIs. So that would be my first choice. And for an adolescent especially, I would not give them anything that rewires their brain, except as an absolute last resort. And I would never, under any circumstances, put them on a psychoactive medication except under treatment by a psychiatrist.
Then it looks like you're the exception...
 
This isn't a political statement, but a statement on the power of authority, if Drs can convince parents that their child should undergo irreversible gender care surgery, then a medication for "mental health" is a fish in a barrel conversation.
You have a weird impression of the reality of clinical encounters. Trust me, it is very rarely the physician pushing medications and treatments, especially at the primary care level (where there is absolutely no financial incentive to do so). Instead, it is almost always the parents (and sometimes schools) pushing for ADHD and mood-disorder diagnoses to counter behaviors that are--in my opinion--just normal (and sometimes annoying) variants of human behavior. Most distracted kids don't need meds, maybe they're just bored or otherwise disengaged. Energy variation, moodiness, gender questioning, anxiety; these are all part of growing up. Doesn't help that we're dragging kids to school at the crack of dawn (bad for their circadian rhythm, which varies by age), stuffing them with highly processed foods, and putting them into a one-size-fits-all educational environment.

You wouldn't believe how many people diagnose themselves (or their kid), decide what medication/supplement they need, and that they're going to get it come hell or high water, with the physician playing (in their head) the role of vending machine. Your point about overdiagnosis and overmedication of kids (and adults, for that matter) is something I completely agree with. I just think you've identified the wrong villain in this particular theatrical production.
 
You have a weird impression of the reality of clinical encounters. Trust me, it is very rarely the physician pushing medications and treatments, especially at the primary care level (where there is absolutely no financial incentive to do so). Instead, it is almost always the parents (and sometimes schools) pushing for ADHD and mood-disorder diagnoses to counter behaviors that are--in my opinion--just normal (and sometimes annoying) variants of human behavior. Most distracted kids don't need meds, maybe they're just bored or otherwise disengaged. Energy variation, moodiness, gender questioning, anxiety; these are all part of growing up. Doesn't help that we're dragging kids to school at the crack of dawn (bad for their circadian rhythm, which varies by age), stuffing them with highly processed foods, and putting them into a one-size-fits-all educational environment.

You wouldn't believe how many people diagnose themselves (or their kid), decide what medication/supplement they need, and that they're going to get it come hell or high water, with the physician playing (in their head) the role of vending machine. Your point about overdiagnosis and overmedication of kids (and adults, for that matter) is something I completely agree with. I just think you've identified the wrong villain in this particular theatrical production.
I don’t blame parents for wanting to help their kids, which is the majority of parents. Do some want to “sedate” hyperactive kids, yes. But that’s not the norm.

Last time I checked, parents can’t prescribe psychoactive drugs, and Drs have the ability to say no, so you can’t put the blame 100% on parents.

There are absolutely financial incentives to prescribe drugs…they aren’t legal however. Here are a few examples.




All I am saying is the FAA better figure out a way to weed through this or the backlog is only going to grow as will the pool of viable pilots.
 
Both of those examples are large drug-makers, not individual physicians. And yes, there are definitely some bad apples in the opioid prescribing realm, and they should have their licenses stripped.

For the medications we're discussing, it's not about blame. It's about incentives.

Drug companies have an incentive to get people to use their product. They spent a lot of money to allow direct advertising of medications to the general public (illegal in many countries) to drive that demand. They show a lot of people prancing around in meadows and laughing with attractive people at barbeques, and make it known that taking something with enough X's and Z's in the name will produce better living through chemistry.

Schools have an incentive to have quiet, controllable children, so they express "concerns" to parents.

Parents have an incentive to protect and optimize their children's lives, so a medication that can enhance academic performance, improve their mood, and reduce their anxiety is tempting, especially if half the other kids in the class are on those meds (and now little Johnny might fall behind his classmates if they're all popping Ritalin and he's not).

Hospitals and medical groups have an incentive to have their physicians make the sausage as fast as possible and code as high as possible for billing purposes, so it's short appointments that preclude the conversation which would have revealed nuance. Happy patients are also returning patients who leave nice words on social media, so what the patient wants, the patient gets (to the limit of their insurance or pocket).

Patients have an incentive to be happy and healthy. Preferably as fast as possible with minimal effort and no lifestyle changes. Pills and supplements are wildly popular, because they're easier than improving diet, being more active, and getting better sleep. More and more, people are medicalizing normal life issues, because being "on the spectrum" or diagnosing yourself with anxiety, depression, or ADHD is easier than dealing with the fact that life is often difficult, unfair, and we're all wired differently in ways that make certain aspects easier or more difficult.

Physicians have an incentive to have happy, healthy patients, and modern medical training has a "patient-centered" paradigm with physicians as "advisors". Thus, a patient (or parent) who is absolutely convinced that they need a particular medication (antibiotics for a viral sinus infection is a classic) makes for a difficult patient encounter. Those shortened appointments (which the physician frequently has no say in) don't leave time for arguing, and some say that pushing back against patient wishes is unethical (and at a minimum is likely to leave a nasty public review), thus a prescription is frequently given, even when it's more likely that focusing on fundamentals will give a better long-term result. A flat "no" to medication is untenable in many settings.

So yes, agree that the FAA is definitely going to have to deal with this. So is the military (and we are). ADHD in particular was WILDLY over-diagnosed 10-15 years ago, and getting waivered for that diagnosis is nearly automatic now for basic service and increasingly expedited for aviation (although it still requires testing to rule out actual pathology).

To be clear, there are absolutely, positively people who need medication to be okay. Those folks deserve the best diagnosis, treatment, and monitoring we can provide. But the folks who got an ADHD diagnosis to help their GPA and suddenly want to be a pilot? Yeah, we're going to have to jump through the hoops to see what's what.
 
Both of those examples are large drug-makers, not individual physicians. And yes, there are definitely some bad apples in the opioid prescribing realm, and they should have their licenses stripped.

For the medications we're discussing, it's not about blame. It's about incentives.

Drug companies have an incentive to get people to use their product. They spent a lot of money to allow direct advertising of medications to the general public (illegal in many countries) to drive that demand. They show a lot of people prancing around in meadows and laughing with attractive people at barbeques, and make it known that taking something with enough X's and Z's in the name will produce better living through chemistry.

Schools have an incentive to have quiet, controllable children, so they express "concerns" to parents.

Parents have an incentive to protect and optimize their children's lives, so a medication that can enhance academic performance, improve their mood, and reduce their anxiety is tempting, especially if half the other kids in the class are on those meds (and now little Johnny might fall behind his classmates if they're all popping Ritalin and he's not).

Hospitals and medical groups have an incentive to have their physicians make the sausage as fast as possible and code as high as possible for billing purposes, so it's short appointments that preclude the conversation which would have revealed nuance. Happy patients are also returning patients who leave nice words on social media, so what the patient wants, the patient gets (to the limit of their insurance or pocket).

Patients have an incentive to be happy and healthy. Preferably as fast as possible with minimal effort and no lifestyle changes. Pills and supplements are wildly popular, because they're easier than improving diet, being more active, and getting better sleep. More and more, people are medicalizing normal life issues, because being "on the spectrum" or diagnosing yourself with anxiety, depression, or ADHD is easier than dealing with the fact that life is often difficult, unfair, and we're all wired differently in ways that make certain aspects easier or more difficult.

Physicians have an incentive to have happy, healthy patients, and modern medical training has a "patient-centered" paradigm with physicians as "advisors". Thus, a patient (or parent) who is absolutely convinced that they need a particular medication (antibiotics for a viral sinus infection is a classic) makes for a difficult patient encounter. Those shortened appointments (which the physician frequently has no say in) don't leave time for arguing, and some say that pushing back against patient wishes is unethical (and at a minimum is likely to leave a nasty public review), thus a prescription is frequently given, even when it's more likely that focusing on fundamentals will give a better long-term result. A flat "no" to medication is untenable in many settings.

So yes, agree that the FAA is definitely going to have to deal with this. So is the military (and we are). ADHD in particular was WILDLY over-diagnosed 10-15 years ago, and getting waivered for that diagnosis is nearly automatic now for basic service and increasingly expedited for aviation (although it still requires testing to rule out actual pathology).

To be clear, there are absolutely, positively people who need medication to be okay. Those folks deserve the best diagnosis, treatment, and monitoring we can provide. But the folks who got an ADHD diagnosis to help their GPA and suddenly want to be a pilot? Yeah, we're going to have to jump through the hoops to see what's what.
I agree with you on pretty much every point. However, and I am clearly not a Dr, but it’s my understanding a diagnosis must be made to legally prescribe a regulated/non-over the counter drug. Based upon the numbers, the population is being overdiagnosed, misdiagnosed or both…why?? Is that a good practice? It certainly seems to be common practice now.

Drs don’t have to prescribe anything, I’d think the Hippocratic Oath would impy otherwise. Why do Drs hand out Z Packs like candy for a common cold when they are for bacterial infections? Why Xanex, or GLP-1s, or Oxy, or whatever drug de jour.

You’re right that Drs want to help their patients, and likely want repeat business, but that’s not a good reason to “diagnose” and prescribe something as the first resort, which seems to be the norm these days.

As long as the general population has Drs diagnosing and overprescribing to please the patient, vs. doing what’s right and best, and as long as we have Drs. at the FAA that basically take those same Drs. “diagnoses” as gospel, we’ll be stuck in this Medical Wait Time and it will only be getting worse. I bet when those figures I posted are updated with more recent figures, there’s an even higher % increase vs. the already staggering increases.
 
You're for sure going to the wrong doctors.
Well, apparently so are a large % of the population.



 
You have a weird impression of the reality of clinical encounters. Trust me, it is very rarely the physician pushing medications and treatments, especially at the primary care level (where there is absolutely no financial incentive to do so). Instead, it is almost always the parents (and sometimes schools) pushing for ADHD and mood-disorder diagnoses to counter behaviors that are--in my opinion--just normal (and sometimes annoying) variants of human behavior. Most distracted kids don't need meds, maybe they're just bored or otherwise disengaged. Energy variation, moodiness, gender questioning, anxiety; these are all part of growing up. Doesn't help that we're dragging kids to school at the crack of dawn (bad for their circadian rhythm, which varies by age), stuffing them with highly processed foods, and putting them into a one-size-fits-all educational environment.

You wouldn't believe how many people diagnose themselves (or their kid), decide what medication/supplement they need, and that they're going to get it come hell or high water, with the physician playing (in their head) the role of vending machine. Your point about overdiagnosis and overmedication of kids (and adults, for that matter) is something I completely agree with. I just think you've identified the wrong villain in this particular theatrical production.
I am old enough to remember when ny magazine had a cover story on the miracle of prozac and suggested someday it would be added to the water supply. only good part of that would have been rfks head popping off
 
I am old enough to remember when ny magazine had a cover story on the miracle of prozac and suggested someday it would be added to the water supply. only good part of that would have been rfks head popping off
There are some areas of the country that are so depressing that this might be a good idea.
 
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