Maneuvers in GA normal airplane

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Lawson Laslo

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wha all fun maneuvers can you do in small ga aircraft that aren’t aerobatics
In a small airplane that’s not aerobatic
 
  1. Stalls, including accelerated
  2. Steep turns
  3. Spin awareness
  4. Commercial Pilot maneuvers
  5. Short field landings. Including improving your skill where you could safely land like those guys in Valdez.
  6. Find a really stiff wind aloft, enter slow flight, and take a photo of your GPS showing a negative ground speed
  7. Tailwheel endorsement
  8. Partial Panel approaches

Then repeat all the above, but with a CFI in the left seat and you in the right seat.
 
AggieMike88 said:
  1. Stalls, including accelerated
  2. Steep turns
  3. Spin awareness
  4. Commercial Pilot maneuvers
  5. Short field landings. Including improving your skill where you could safely land like those guys in Valdez.
  6. Find a really stiff wind aloft, enter slow flight, and take a photo of your GPS showing a negative ground speed
  7. Tailwheel endorsement
  8. Partial Panel approaches
Then repeat all the above, but with a CFI in the left seat and you in the right seat.
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Awesome
You forgot 0 gforces though
 
IIRC, you don't have rudder pedals, so that will limit some of the things you can do.
 
Walboy said:
How is this possible?
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If the winds aloft are higher than your slow flight speed, the GPS will show you moving backwards. So, how slow can you go? (Candy's stall speed is 50MPH)

And then after you show the -GPS speed you turn around and show the outrageously fast +GPS speed you can get in the other direction.
 
Walboy said:
What GPS do you use?

I'm pretty sure my GPS, not knowing anything about the aircraft's heading, would still show a positive ground speed.
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Yep. Just not in the direction the plane is pointing.
 
Walboy said:
What GPS do you use? I'm pretty sure my GPS, not knowing anything about the aircraft's heading, would still show a positive ground speed.
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430W and 696. If you're on Direct To it is calculating ground speed based on Track, not heading. And when you're closure rate to station is increasing they show negative GS. Just like when you get your 200kts GS reading it isn't true airspeed.


[Editing] it will 'probably' show a small positive ground speed while your ETE and distance to station increase.
 
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pull up someone with ADS-B doing aerobatics on flightaware and see the track.....speed does drop below what you'd think because of the vertical track.
 
AggieMike88 said:
  1. Stalls, including accelerated
  2. Steep turns
  3. Spin awareness
  4. Commercial Pilot maneuvers
  5. Short field landings. Including improving your skill where you could safely land like those guys in Valdez.
  6. Find a really stiff wind aloft, enter slow flight, and take a photo of your GPS showing a negative ground speed
  7. Tailwheel endorsement
  8. Partial Panel approaches
Then repeat all the above, but with a CFI in the left seat and you in the right seat.
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9. Turns about a tiedown.
 
Half Fast said:
9. Turns about a tiedown.
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nearly did that on m PPL check ride. The examiner timed his ground distraction very well to remove my attention away from undoing the rope and then proceeded to watch with amusement as I moved on to the next step forgetting I hadn't undone the rope.
 
Zero-G pushovers and Lazy 8s are my favorites for doing in a "boring" plane.

Go find a less boring plane if you want to do aerobatics. A 108hp Citabria is a good one to learn in because you have to be very precise and well-timed to make things work, you can't just power through a flubbed maneuver like you can with an Extra or something like that with 300hp.
 
Ravioli said:
430W and 696. If you're on Direct To it is calculating ground speed based on Track, not heading. And when you're closure rate to station is increasing they show negative GS. Just like when you get your 200kts GS reading it isn't true airspeed.


[Editing] it will 'probably' show a small positive ground speed while your ETE and distance to station increase.
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Still don't get it. Why can't you then do a Direct To to a point behind you and watch the GPS show -150 knots or whatever?
 
Sluggo63 said:
Still don't get it. Why can't you then do a Direct To to a point behind you and watch the GPS show -150 knots or whatever?
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The GPS doesn't know which way the airplane is pointed. The GPS displays a absolute ground speed which means it is not in reference to any destination, just a speed the box is moving across the ground. By putting a direct to destination input behind the aircraft, the distance to the destination will increase, but your GS will continue to show a positive speed across the ground.
 
Sluggo63 said:
Still don't get it. Why can't you then do a Direct To to a point behind you and watch the GPS show -150 knots or whatever?
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GPS ground speed is a scalar, not a vector.

Try the GPS in your car. Set a destination a few miles down the road you're on, then drive the opposite direction. Does your GPS speed show a negative number? (If so, that'll make a GREAT argument for speeding tickets...)
 
Witmo said:
The GPS doesn't know which way the airplane is pointed. The GPS displays a absolute ground speed which means it is not in reference to any destination, just a speed the box is moving across the ground. By putting a direct to destination input behind the aircraft, the distance to the destination will increase, but your GS will continue to show a positive speed across the ground.
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Half Fast said:
GPS ground speed is a scalar, not a vector.

Try the GPS in your car. Set a destination a few miles down the road you're on, then drive the opposite direction. Does your GPS speed show a negative number? (If so, that'll make a GREAT argument for speeding tickets...)
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That was my point. I guess I was ambiguous in my post. Sorry. GPS's don't show negative ground speeds. They just show your speed over the ground, whichever way the nose is pointing. It doesn't care.
 
Lawson Laslo said:
Awesome
You forgot 0 gforces though
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The number of g's is not the sole determining factor in whether it is an allowable manouver. If you're talking about flying a parabola to simulate zero g, you can only do that very briefly until you exceed the non-acro pitch limits.
 
Walboy said:
What GPS do you use?

I'm pretty sure my GPS, not knowing anything about the aircraft's heading, would still show a positive ground speed.
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I swear to god, with your avatar, reading exactly what you wrote, I heard it in his voice, perfectly.

Then sat back waiting for the pneumatic bolt, that I knew must be coming.
 
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