Looking for right seat in Multi

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I am a CFI out of Ormond Beach florida looking for some multi time. I currently have over 780 TT and 7 hour of multi. I am on a time frame to reach my ATP hours by feb or march and would really appreciate time in the right seat.
 
I am a CFI out of Ormond Beach florida looking for some multi time. I currently have over 780 TT and 7 hour of multi. I am on a time frame to reach my ATP hours by feb or march and would really appreciate time in the right seat.

Safety pilot or MEI?
 
impossible to be MEI since you need 15 hours of PIC in a multi to qualify for MEI.
 
Or you could do like I did and get a job flying a multi with 7 hrs. P180 as a co captain.
 
I'm bringing a 777 back from Frankfurt tomorrow. I'd really rather watch movies and take a nap. Your welcome to the cruise portion of the flight !
 
I'm bringing a 777 back from Frankfurt tomorrow. I'd really rather watch movies and take a nap. Your welcome to the cruise portion of the flight !

Where should I meet you? I think I could use some light twin time in my log book.
 
I am a CFI out of Ormond Beach florida looking for some multi time. I currently have over 780 TT and 7 hour of multi. I am on a time frame to reach my ATP hours by feb or march and would really appreciate time in the right seat.

Do you have any way to get your MEI where you're working? It could be worth it depending on your school's situation.
 
Another commercial pilot working for free...super.
 
Another commercial pilot working for free...super.

No....another person working towards a commercial career looking to build time towards his goal. It's been happening for a very long time. Nothing new.
 
No....another person working towards a commercial career looking to build time towards his goal. It's been happening for a very long time. Nothing new.

And nothing good.

This is why we can't have nice things.


Go get a job in a twotter or KA at a DZ, you ain't going anywhere that's going to pay jack without turbine time.
 
And nothing good.

This is why we can't have nice things.


Go get a job in a twotter or KA at a DZ, you ain't going anywhere that's going to pay jack without turbine time.

All stepping stones. You're not going to get a twotter or KA job with 7 hours of multi. So he's chipping away at the requirements, like most professional pilots have when building time.
 
And nothing good.

This is why we can't have nice things.


Go get a job in a twotter or KA at a DZ, you ain't going anywhere that's going to pay jack without turbine time.

BTW, you regularly share about the "nice things" you have! Don't you have a 185 on floats? Those are pretty nice.
 
Yeah, but this kind of stuff from CPLs doesn't help

BTW with 1,000tt and a ME rating you can get into a drop zone twotter or KA if you're willing to relocate.
 
Yeah, but this kind of stuff from CPLs doesn't help

BTW with 1,000tt and a ME rating you can get into a drop zone twotter or KA if you're willing to relocate.

Doesn't help what? You can get a CPL at 250 hours. Not much work available at that level. He needs to do something to get to that 1,000 hour mark. Safety pilot time is one option.

I just don't understand the constant sniping at those who are simply trying to pursue their dream.
 
...I just don't understand the constant sniping at those who are simply trying to pursue their dream.

You don't understand how free labor negatively competes with paid labor?
 
You don't understand how free labor negatively competes with paid labor?

What "labor" is involved here? He's not taking any "work" from anyone because no one likely to take him up on his offer would be shopping to pay someone else to sit in that seat. That's the fallacy perpetuated by whiney professional pilots in these situations.

If you are honest you'll admit there are likely lots of hours in your logbook for which you weren't paid and for which you didn't pay. I have yet to meet a professional pilot where that isn't the case. I did a lot of maintenance test flights on Barons and Dukes that I wasn't paid for and they wouldn't have paid me to do them because the mechanic could have accomplished it all alone. But he knew I wanted the time and gave me the chance to get those hours. I didn't steal a dime from a professional pilot because there were no dimes allocated to an additional pilot for those flights.
 
What "labor" is involved here? He's not taking any "work" from anyone because no one likely to take him up on his offer would be shopping to pay someone else to sit in that seat. That's the fallacy perpetuated by whiney professional pilots in these situations.

If you are honest you'll admit there are likely lots of hours in your logbook for which you weren't paid and for which you didn't pay. I have yet to meet a professional pilot where that isn't the case. I did a lot of maintenance test flights on Barons and Dukes that I wasn't paid for and they wouldn't have paid me to do them because the mechanic could have accomplished it all alone. But he knew I wanted the time and gave me the chance to get those hours. I didn't steal a dime from a professional pilot because there were no dimes allocated to an additional pilot for those flights.

:yes::yes::yes::yes::yes:
 
I helped my neighbor replace a faucet....stealing the wages from professional plumbers everywhere.

:rofl:

R u a licensed plumber? If so then yes you are stealing money. If not you're doing your friend a dis-service.

Every single hour in my logbook is either me paying for the flight or me getting paid. Shove your accusations of me being 'Whiny' where the sun don't shine because this is a living for people where we sustain our livelihoods. Put food on the table and a roof over our heads. Go ahead and yuk it up cause the joke is lost on me.

The OP isn't the problem. But attitudes like yours are: 'Everyone does it'. No, they don't. I didn't and most people I know didn't.
 
R u a licensed plumber? If so then yes you are stealing money. If not you're doing your friend a dis-service.

Every single hour in my logbook is either me paying for the flight or me getting paid. Shove your accusations of me being 'Whiny' where the sun don't shine because this is a living for people where we sustain our livelihoods. Put food on the table and a roof over our heads. Go ahead and yuk it up cause the joke is lost on me.

The OP isn't the problem. But attitudes like yours are: 'Everyone does it'. No, they don't. I didn't and most people I know didn't.

So, you are claiming there isn't ONE hour in your logbook where you weren't paid or you didn't cover the cost of the flight? Now I KNOW you cannot be believed on anything you post. Either that or you weren't very smart when you were learning to fly and building time.

Last time I looked there is no prohibition on homeowners doing their own home maintenance.....at least not until the Statists have complete control.
 
So, you are claiming there isn't ONE hour in your logbook where you weren't paid or you didn't cover the cost of the flight? Now I KNOW you cannot be believed on anything you post. Either that or you weren't very smart when you were learning to fly and building time.

Last time I looked there is no prohibition on homeowners doing their own home maintenance.....at least not until the Statists have complete control.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Every hour was me paying for the flight or getting paid. I've never flown for free...ever.

Break,

So now your gonna change it to YOUR house? Before it was 'your friends house'. Typical response from someone with a failed position...just change the argument. So what, am I conceding saying it's fine to fix a faucet in your house? No, I'm not. Because that wasn't the premise. You said friends house. That's different and you know it.
 
Oh wait. I did log 1.1 in a T-34 where a guy with a CFI gave me a ride to a fly in. I logged it as dual received and didn't pay. Honestly, I never touched the stick and only logged it to mark my flight in the plane. Suppose I should, to be honest, delete that flight...
 
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Every hour was me paying for the flight or getting paid. I've never flown for free...ever.

Break,

So now your gonna change it to YOUR house? Before it was 'your friends house'. Typical response from someone with a failed position...just change the argument. So what, am I conceding saying it's fine to fix a faucet in your house? No, I'm not. Because that wasn't the premise. You said friends house. That's different and you know it.

Comprehend much? Go back and reread what I actually said, genius. I said I helped a friend install a faucet. His faucet. His house.

And you can make whatever claim you want about your flying history, but if true you're the ONLY professional pilot in my 37 years of flying who could make that claim. And I suspect no one else believes it, either.
 
Comprehend much? Go back and reread what I actually said, genius. I said I helped a friend install a faucet. His faucet. His house.

And you can make whatever claim you want about your flying history, but if true you're the ONLY professional pilot in my 37 years of flying who could make that claim. And I suspect no one else believes it, either.

I don't give two flips what you do or don't believe. Just another in a long line of facts you arbitrarily decide for yourself just aren't true. Must be a happy place you live in.
 
I helped my neighbor replace a faucet....stealing the wages from professional plumbers everywhere.

:rofl:

Helped your neighbor replace YOUR faucet....in YOUR house? Yeah, I'm sure that's what you meant...

I see honesty is beyond you.
 
And I'll lose no sleep over that fact. You just destroy your credibility with claims like this one.

As my post above shows you are the one with a propensity to lie and change the story to suit you. I'm simply stating facts with zero motivation to lie. I even disclosed a single flight that 'might' run afoul of the standard I set for myself.

gfys
 
Pay the coin to get your MEI. Don't cheapen the profession by "flying for free".

I got my MEI and still flew for "free" when it was a benefit to me.

Maybe it's time to bring up the old adage "Don't choose a profession something others will do for free."
 
As my post above shows you are the one with a propensity to lie and change the story to suit you. I'm simply stating facts with zero motivation to lie. I even disclosed a single flight that 'might' run afoul of the standard I set for myself.

gfys

No story was changed....you just can't read.

As classy as ever, Cap'n. As expected. :roll eyes:
 
I helped my neighbor replace a faucet....stealing the wages from professional plumbers everywhere.

:rofl:

R u a licensed plumber? If so then yes you are stealing money. If not you're doing your friend a dis-service.

Last time I looked there is no prohibition on homeowners doing their own home maintenance.....

Either you're acting as a plumber and stealing money or you're not and the example doesn't apply. Regardless, a commercial pilot flying for free is a damn travesty. And no, I've never done it. The onerous isn't on me to prove I haven't either. If you want to accuse me of something I suggest YOU being proof. That's sort of the way this country works...
 
Either you're acting as a plumber and stealing money or you're not and the example doesn't apply. Regardless, a commercial pilot flying for free is a damn travesty. And no, I've never done it. The onerous isn't on me to prove I haven't either. If you want to accuse me of something I suggest YOU being proof. That's sort of the way this country works...

You really can't read for comprehension, can you? The point was two "non-professionals" collaborated to replace a faucet....would you argue that act unjustly deprived a professional of his due compensation?

And who are you to dictate what a commercial pilot can and cannot do? If a commercial pilot derives a benefit from doing a particular trip for someone, why is it your place to say he can't??

The biggest detriment to the profession of commercial flight is the blue-collar union mentality I see manifested by pilots like you and other ALPA "unionistas".

As long as the number of hours accumulated is a yard stick by which young, aspiring pilots are measured you'll have commercial rated pilots flying for "free" to accumulate those hours so they can progress in their career. Always have, always will.
 
I just don't understand the constant sniping at those who are simply trying to pursue their dream.
I don't either. Everyone who chooses to be a career pilot knows that there are other people who pay good money just to participate in aviation. If they wanted less competition, they should have chosen a less desirable activity.
 
You really can't read for comprehension, can you? The point was two "non-professionals" collaborated to replace a faucet....would you argue that act unjustly deprived a professional of his due compensation?

And who are you to dictate what a commercial pilot can and cannot do? If a commercial pilot derives a benefit from doing a particular trip for someone, why is it your place to say he can't??

The biggest detriment to the profession of commercial flight is the blue-collar union mentality I see manifested by pilots like you and other ALPA "unionistas".

As long as the number of hours accumulated is a yard stick by which young, aspiring pilots are measured you'll have commercial rated pilots flying for "free" to accumulate those hours so they can progress in their career. Always have, always will.

Working on your own house is specifically allowed. You working on a neighbors house isn't. You 'helping' a neighbor is a grey area but I doubt anyone would ever pursue it without a complaint.

A commercial pilot flying for free sorta defeats the point of being a commercial pilot. No compensation or hire for a license that is specifically designed for just that. But you got it figured out. I have no idea what you do for a living but I can only imagine how you'd feel about a bunch of folks willing to do it for free.
 
I don't either. Everyone who chooses to be a career pilot knows that there are other people who pay good money just to participate in aviation. If they wanted less competition, they should have chosen a less desirable activity.

:yeahthat: Exactly. In reality, it's exhibiting a form of protectionism. "I'm in, now, so YOU shouldn't do anything that could possibly affect ME, even if it helps you get to where I am." Or, if maybe it's just "If I can keep YOU out that makes ME more valuable!" In either case, it stinks.

I feel sorry for the OP who just wanted to get hooked up for some multi time.
 
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