Logging rotorcraft time in SEL log book

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I just logged one hour of dual time in a helicopter. Plan to log an hour of seaplane in the future as well. Do these dual hours get added to my current dual time in my SEL logbook?
 
What purpose does that column serve? Something to report to the insurance company? Counting towards a particular rating? Your call.
 
You have only a column for airplane SEL? Mine has an open block next to it to add a different category & class. Personally I keep two different logbooks for FW vs RW.
 
I'd just say get another small logbook for helicopters.
 
My log book has columns for SEL, MEL, SES, Rotorcraft/helicopter, Glider, and several blank ones. I'd just fill in the appropriate column to keep the totals easy to figure. It all counts as flight time.
 
Your logbook should have a column for SEL, SES, Rotorcraft, etc. If not you can just write it in and make your own column.
 
When you say "SEL logbook" isn't that something you have determined for yourself? As long as you are able to determine your dual times in various categories and classes to write on applications when needed, it doesn't matter if you log all your dual time in one column. I did.
 
I keep my rotor hours in my airplane logbook which I now regret, because it gets very messy/ugly (different things to keep track of, plus several pages of pure carryover if you don't fly one category for a while).
When I recently started gliding, I wisely listened to the school's suggestion and bought a separate logbook for glider time (with a cool sailplane pic on the cover :)). If I were to start again, I'd keep a separate logbook for each category aircraft.
 
RotorDude said:
I keep my rotor hours in my airplane logbook which I now regret, because it gets very messy/ugly (different things to keep track of, plus several pages of pure carryover if you don't fly one category for a while).
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That reminds me that I have carried over my 126.2 hours of helicopter time for at least 15 years and many, many pages. :rofl:
 
It all adds up to your total and dual received time.

I don't know about separate logbooks just for one hour of time, unless you plan to continue training on one or both.
 
Jason608 said:
I just logged one hour of dual time in a helicopter. Plan to log an hour of seaplane in the future as well. Do these dual hours get added to my current dual time in my SEL logbook?
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How did the CFI log it? If I were your CFI, I'd just add it on the next line, completing everything as normal, and just entering the time under the blank Category and class field (if your log book has one) and making a note of Rotorcraft. For your seaplane flying, you can do the same thing but call it ASES. If you plan to do a significant amount of either, just label one of the blank columns.

This is also where an electronic logbook comes in handy for calculating time.
 
Thanks everyone for the advice.
I did not notice it before, but there is a helicopter column. I do not plan on logging more helicopter time anytime soon, but I do want to account for it.

I will add the hour to the helicopter column and add an hour to the generic "Dual Received" column. I know it's not a big deal, just an hour, but was just wondering how other pilots log the time. Thanks again.

By the way, first time in/flying a helicopter, that can get addicting.
 
Jason608 said:
Thanks everyone for the advice.
I did not notice it before, but there is a helicopter column. I do not plan on logging more helicopter time anytime soon, but I do want to account for it.

I will add the hour to the helicopter column and add an hour to the generic "Dual Received" column. I know it's not a big deal, just an hour, but was just wondering how other pilots log the time. Thanks again.

By the way, first time in/flying a helicopter, that can get addicting.
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I got to fly a Bell 407 a few weeks ago. It was my first helicopter ride! They are addicting. Too bad I can't afford helicopter lessons!
 
Jason608 said:
By the way, first time in/flying a helicopter, that can get addicting.
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No kidding, I should never have taken that introductory flight! :D :eek:

Which is why I ended up with those 126.2 hours. Not particularly useful but a cool memory... every time I carry it forward in my logbook.
 
Everskyward said:
No kidding, I should never have taken that introductory flight! :D :eek:

Which is why I ended up with those 126.2 hours. Not particularly useful but a cool memory... every time I carry it forward in my logbook.
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Being very fickle, I can tell you that nothing beats gliding. :)
 
RotorDude said:
Being very fickle, I can tell you that nothing beats gliding. :)
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I have thought about that but, around here, gliding generally takes place on weekends when there are instructors and tow pilots. My days off don't necessarily conform to weekends and I can't be gliding when I'm on call. I thought about it as a retirement activity but was sad to see that there are not any gliderports near my retirement location. :(
 
RotorDude said:
I keep my rotor hours in my airplane logbook which I now regret, because it gets very messy/ugly (different things to keep track of, plus several pages of pure carryover if you don't fly one category for a while).
When I recently started gliding, I wisely listened to the school's suggestion and bought a separate logbook for glider time (with a cool sailplane pic on the cover :)). If I were to start again, I'd keep a separate logbook for each category aircraft.
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I dunno, aside from logging training, I think keeping everything electronically is the best way to go. Very easy to subtotal different catergories/classes. Just have the paper version for endorsements and other CFI sign-offs.
 
SoonerAviator said:
I dunno, aside from logging training, I think keeping everything electronically is the best way to go. Very easy to subtotal different catergories/classes. Just have the paper version for endorsements and other CFI sign-offs.
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I completely agree about the need for an e-version of the logbook, but the paper version, besides the endorsements, has a sentimental value that can't be captured electronically.
 
RotorDude said:
I completely agree about the need for an e-version of the logbook, but the paper version, besides the endorsements, has a sentimental value that can't be captured electronically.
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I guess that's the deal with me. I have both but I mostly use the electronic version to keep my addition straight and to break out times when needed.
 
Brad Z said:
How did the CFI log it? If I were your CFI, I'd just add it on the next line, completing everything as normal, and just entering the time under the blank Category and class field (if your log book has one) and making a note of Rotorcraft. For your seaplane flying, you can do the same thing but call it ASES. If you plan to do a significant amount of either, just label one of the blank columns.

This is also where an electronic logbook comes in handy for calculating time.
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Thanks. I did not have my logbook with me so the CFI wrote the details on a piece of paper and signed it. I pasted it in my logbook.

I tried a couple electronic logbooks and have not been very impressed with them. I may just replicate the logbook columns in xls and update via my phone. I currently scan each page to a PDF for backup.
 
RotorDude said:
I completely agree about the need for an e-version of the logbook, but the paper version, besides the endorsements, has a sentimental value that can't be captured electronically.
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I don't disagree, I still keep everything on paper in the logbook, I don't use an electronic version. However, if it's about ease of keeping the dates/math straight as well as other minutia (medical expiration, instrument currency, BFR, etc.), the electronic version can't be beat. I don't fly enough for it to matter, so I use the paper logbook. An excel file can be easily set up to do most of that stuff, but having a mobile app can make things extremely easy.
 
Jason608 said:
By the way, first time in/flying a helicopter, that can get addicting.
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Congrats on your hour of logged dual RW time! I'm an RW student planning to go through CFI, and I don't regret it at all! I'm in the mid-40's on hours, so no rating here yet, but I waited my whole life to make this dream a reality and the wait was worth it! Once in awhile I'll watch the FW guys taking off while I'm doing a pre-flight, and I look forward to getting a fixed wing add-on, but for now, nothing beats a helicopter! :)


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