Clear-Prop
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Introduction:
I am currently utilizing my second logbook in my aviation career. I have approximately 850 hours of total time, of which almost half is logged as cross country. Presently, I work for an operator which conducts flights between 100-200 nautical miles away (straight-line distance). Rarely, I will stop for fuel or lunch at another airfield.
During my flight training, I only logged flights as cross country if it met the requirements of 61.1 (B)(II):
(A) Conducted in an appropriate aircraft;
(B) That includes a point of landing that was at least a straight-line distance of more than 50 nautical miles from the original point of departure; and
(C) That involves the use of dead reckoning, pilotage, electronic navigation aids, radio aids, or other navigation systems to navigate to the landing point).
Once earning my first position as a pilot, I began logging cross country time to the 6th definition that the FAA provides (7 total). That is 61.1 (B)(VI), for the purpose of meeting the aeronautical experience requirements for an airline transport pilot certificate. The requirements include that the flight is:
(A) Conducted in an appropriate aircraft;
(B) That is at least a straight-line distance of more than 50 nautical miles from the original point of departure; and
(C) That involves the use of dead reckoning, pilotage, electronic navigation aids, radio aids, or other navigation systems.
Where I need help:
When I began flying for this operator, I continued to log flight time in the same logbook that I utilized during training. This logbook has no separate column for the different types of cross-country time. I would place cross country time that only counted towards my ATP, in the same xc column as those flights that counted towards a certificate under part 61.
My worry:
The legal definition of cross-country time includes a landing at a point other than the point of departure. The exception to this rule is in paragraphs (II) through (IV). My worry is that while those flights count towards the ATP requirement, they are not to be logged in the normal cross-country column.
My solution:
(I already have an asterisk (*) next to each XC flight that does not count towards any rating outside of my ATP. Furthermore, in the remarks section, if the flight only qualifies towards 61.1 (B)(VI) cross-country time, I say so. I can easily differentiate between which type of cross-country time qualifies towards a rating under part 61, or towards my ATP. However, my total cross-country figure includes time under both definitions.)
The next logbook I purchase will have an empty column in which I will place my cross-country time that only qualifies towards an ATP requirement. That column, and my normal XC column in my new logbook, will equal the total XC time of the prior logbook.
My Question:
Is this an appropriate solution? Should I make corrections to my current and prior logbook to only show time towards the generally accepted XC time? I am willing to make the large number of corrections in my logbook if it is the right thing to do. Any remarks, comments, or opinions would be greatly appreciated. I wanted to ask the POA community before making my own decision and putting pen to paper.
I am currently utilizing my second logbook in my aviation career. I have approximately 850 hours of total time, of which almost half is logged as cross country. Presently, I work for an operator which conducts flights between 100-200 nautical miles away (straight-line distance). Rarely, I will stop for fuel or lunch at another airfield.
During my flight training, I only logged flights as cross country if it met the requirements of 61.1 (B)(II):
(A) Conducted in an appropriate aircraft;
(B) That includes a point of landing that was at least a straight-line distance of more than 50 nautical miles from the original point of departure; and
(C) That involves the use of dead reckoning, pilotage, electronic navigation aids, radio aids, or other navigation systems to navigate to the landing point).
Once earning my first position as a pilot, I began logging cross country time to the 6th definition that the FAA provides (7 total). That is 61.1 (B)(VI), for the purpose of meeting the aeronautical experience requirements for an airline transport pilot certificate. The requirements include that the flight is:
(A) Conducted in an appropriate aircraft;
(B) That is at least a straight-line distance of more than 50 nautical miles from the original point of departure; and
(C) That involves the use of dead reckoning, pilotage, electronic navigation aids, radio aids, or other navigation systems.
Where I need help:
When I began flying for this operator, I continued to log flight time in the same logbook that I utilized during training. This logbook has no separate column for the different types of cross-country time. I would place cross country time that only counted towards my ATP, in the same xc column as those flights that counted towards a certificate under part 61.
My worry:
The legal definition of cross-country time includes a landing at a point other than the point of departure. The exception to this rule is in paragraphs (II) through (IV). My worry is that while those flights count towards the ATP requirement, they are not to be logged in the normal cross-country column.
My solution:
(I already have an asterisk (*) next to each XC flight that does not count towards any rating outside of my ATP. Furthermore, in the remarks section, if the flight only qualifies towards 61.1 (B)(VI) cross-country time, I say so. I can easily differentiate between which type of cross-country time qualifies towards a rating under part 61, or towards my ATP. However, my total cross-country figure includes time under both definitions.)
The next logbook I purchase will have an empty column in which I will place my cross-country time that only qualifies towards an ATP requirement. That column, and my normal XC column in my new logbook, will equal the total XC time of the prior logbook.
My Question:
Is this an appropriate solution? Should I make corrections to my current and prior logbook to only show time towards the generally accepted XC time? I am willing to make the large number of corrections in my logbook if it is the right thing to do. Any remarks, comments, or opinions would be greatly appreciated. I wanted to ask the POA community before making my own decision and putting pen to paper.
