Las Vegas Pilot goes nuts 50 Dead

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A Pilot on a high floor of a Las Vegas hotel rained a rapid-fire barrage on a huge outdoor concert festival on Sunday night, ...
 
Terrible. And my daughter just left this morning for a seminar there all week. :(
 
They apparently have zero details on the guy. His girlfriend was out of the country. The brother didn't say much. They knew he had a few guns and a pilots license and can't find any obvious signs of military service or prior criminal activity. Next we'll be hearing about what model car he drives.
 
O.K., how many hours? What did he fly? When did he last fly? He was some type of retired aerospace worker.

There is no suitable explanation when dealing with pure evil.
 
A man with questionable mental health, who just happened to have a pilots cert, and in the past worked for the DOD contractor, opened fire.

So - does this mean all DOD contractors who are also pilots, will have mental health issues, will go buy a weapon and randomly kill people?
 
murphey said:
A man with questionable mental health, who just happened to have a pilots cert, and in the past worked for the DOD contractor, opened fire.

So - does this mean all DOD contractors who are also pilots, will have mental health issues, will go buy a weapon and randomly kill people?
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Yes. Arm yourself now in defense. Yup, that’s it, defense. A 0.222 is a good round for wounding but go with a 0.308 for more stopping power. Don’t mess around with handguns since they make poor clubs.
 
I think the OP only mentioned pilot since he was posting among other pilots....maybe just the wording seemed to indicate there was a correlation.

I do remember the big shooting by a postal worker. Same thing really. He went nuts, and maybe being a postal worker had something to do with it, but likely not.
It sure stuck like glue though.
Let's not all go postal on the poster here :p
 
He was a Cirrus Pilot he had an SR20. Medical is not updated tho...

The Pilot community is huge...yet very small.
 
No certificates listed in the FAA airman database for Steven Kent Paddock. Just a 3rd class medical from 1979 which may not have been renewed. No planes registered for Steven Paddock.

Perhaps he was a student pilot once upon a time?
 
Stephen Craig Paddock is likely it because of the Mesquite TX address, which was mentioned as being a prior address for the shooter. No planes registered for that either though.
 
Interestingly the database gives an address of Mesquite, TX but the media has said he's from Mesquite, NV.
 
SkyDog58 said:
You really need to be working for the media writing headlines like that. WTF does him being a pilot have to do with anything?
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This is a pilot's forum. The fact (If it is a fact) that the perp is a pilot is something that would be interest to other pilots.
 
PeterNSteinmetz said:
Is there a source on that? That is interesting if true, as that is quite a few places.
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I first read it in the news, but then looked it up too.

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Not all owned at the same time. But apparently he does own at least two properties right now, both in Nevada.
 
His status as a pilot has no bearing on what he did. Crazy is as crazy does. I'm thinking the man was 'off his rocker'.
 
Norman said:
His status as a pilot has no bearing on what he did. Crazy is as crazy does. I'm thinking the man was 'off his rocker'.
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that's quite an astute observation there fella...how did you arrive at that conclusion?o_O
 
murphey said:
A man with questionable mental health, who just happened to have a pilots cert, and in the past worked for the DOD contractor, opened fire.

So - does this mean all DOD contractors who are also pilots, will have mental health issues, will go buy a weapon and randomly kill people?
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I think you hit it right there....mental illness. Seems like treating mental illness now is like a constitutional injustice.

(sarcasm on)How dare the government force someone to be helped and treated against their will just because they are mentally ill..??(sarcasm off)
 
And people worry about Muslim immigrants... it's the useless trash that is born and bred right here in the good ol' USA that is far more dangerous. There really should be a law to block the name, pictures, background and life history of these kinds of trash gone killers for at least a year or more from the media. I know, I know, first amendment and all that, but do we really need to know?? I believe that half the motivation for these **** bags is to be famous just as they die. Take away their fame. Taking their life isn't enough, they want to die. Their fame breeds more of the same because we are a broken people living in a very unhealthy society with plenty more murderers at the ready.
 
PeterNSteinmetz said:
Is there a source on that? That is interesting if true, as that is quite a few places.
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Uh oh . . . I'm in Town #22, but need to check my spreadsheet to count actual addresses--should be 40+ by now. Just one of the joys of being raised by a career Marine Corps officer. Although to be fair, college was only Town #14.
 
Dav8or said:
Their fame breeds more of the same because we are a broken people living in a very unhealthy society with plenty more murderers at the ready.
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Why are we a broken society? What part is broken?
 
Cooter said:
Why are we a broken society? What part is broken?
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[puts on tin foil hat]...all the chemicals, sugars/sweeteners and processing of what we now know as "food" being produced by the corporate farms and muti-national corporations (IE: Monsanto) are leading to an epidemic of mental health issues and neuron processing errors coupled with the explosion of the internet validating any view that you may have is leading to the breaking down of society and the deterioration of rational thought. Even our "leaders" in politics have turned the competition into the enemy. The Zombie Apocalypse is coming, it will just not be a virus but rather what we are being fed and consuming one meal at a time. [takes off tin foil hat]
 
SkyDog58 said:
You really need to be working for the media writing headlines like that. WTF does him being a pilot have to do with anything?
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It is the FAA 's fault for not doing their job. He had to undergo psych. evals to get his pilot lic one network was reporting.
 
[Q UOTE="Cooter, post: 2376296, member: 27123"]Why are we a broken society? What part is broken?[/QUOTE]


Wouldn't be faster to list the parts that aren't broken?
 
Shawn said:
all the chemicals, sugars/sweeteners and processing of what we now know as "food" being produced by the corporate farms and muti-national corporations (IE: Monsanto) are leading to an epidemic of mental health issues
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Slightly edited to bridge agreement. Something's going on with the food, but I'm not sure to what extent. What we call food has become a poison to many people. If there's any present epidemic that needs addressing, it's how many ailments are arising because of intolerance to basic foods. But the media and experts will just find another avian bird flu fear mongering campaign to champion and ignore the real problems.
 
Clip4 said:
[Q UOTE="Cooter, post: 2376296, member: 27123"]Why are we a broken society? What part is broken?


Wouldn't be faster to list the parts that aren't broken?
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Ok, if you want to go that direction. What isn't broken and why?
 
If this guy's status as a pilot were relevant to this story then he would have shot from a plane.
 
....this thread ought to get interesting--But not in the good way like an educated dialogue about the event. I'm sure the only entertainment will be betting on how many posts it takes before the thread is locked. I'll take the under and I believe the line is set at 60.

All kidding aside, when upwards of 58 people are killed, that fact that this guy may have flown an airplane in his lifetime is about as relavant as what type of shoe he wore on his 42end birthday...let's try and show some respect to the many people's lives who are destroyed by this beyond awful act and not draw absurdly non meaningful connections to this person and the pilot population. It just trivializes the entire event.
 
jspilot said:
that fact that this guy may have flown an airplane in his lifetime is about as relavant as what type of shoe he wore on his 42end birthday..
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I think it is relevant as they/we/everyone tries to build a "profile" of the suspect, the fact that he held a PPL (and I think IFR) shows a level of mental competence during at least one point in his recent life vs being completely off his rocker and a potential red flag his whole existence.

I agree that it raises more questions than answers as it would be easier to dismiss the actions from someone that was documented and known with a pattern of being mentally deranged.
 
(IMO) In order to decide to kill people in mass like that. You have to be in a lot of pain inside. This kind of stuff is going to keep happening. Is it right? No absolutely not but taking guns away from people is not going to solve the problem either if you are mentally deranged and you have an agenda nothing is going to stop you. Gun laws are only going to take away from those who OBEY the law.
 
Shawn said:
I think it is relevant as they/we/everyone tries to build a "profile" of the suspect, the fact that he held a PPL (and I think IFR) shows a level of mental competence during at least one point in his recent life vs being completely off his rocker and a potential red flag his whole existence.

I agree that it raises more questions than answers as it would be easier to dismiss the actions from someone that was documented and known with a pattern of being mentally deranged.
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I have absolutely no background as a criminal profiler but I believe it to be beyond a stretch to conclude that in anyway shape or form did his pilot status have anything to do with the atrocity he committed.

You are probably right though that if in fact he was a pilot he had some level of mental competency( unfortunately mental competency is not always directly tied to mental health as some very smart people did some awful acts-- think Tim Mcveigh for evidence of this.) I just wish the levity this thread title introduces into this situation were not part of the discussion. It has lead to an absurdly miss placed argument about if his pilot status is relavant or not- which is laughable to anyone impacted by this killing.
 
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