Keurig Brewers

Henning said:
Yep, but you can use a basket and coffee with just a tiny bit more effort in the same machine and not create all the waste.
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I see your point but it would be more time consuming and messy. Ground coffee loses flavor quickly so I would need to bring freshly ground coffee from home or get a grinder for the office. I don't have very much free desk space.
 
Henning said:
Yep, but you can use a basket and coffee with just a tiny bit more effort in the same machine and not create all the waste.
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The water you use to clean out that screen/basket isn't without an environmental consequence either.
 
Gary F said:
I see your point but it would be more time consuming and messy. Ground coffee loses flavor quickly so I would need to bring freshly ground coffee from home or get a grinder for the office. I don't have very much free desk space.
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There's always an excuse to be lazy and wasteful.
 
Henning said:
Waste is waste is waste regardless who creates it. So simple even a retarded caveman can understand it.
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Waste can only be minimized and not eliminated. Sometimes we must choose between different types of waste, time verses other resources.
 
omg, the thought of K-cups has very bad connotations in my mind . . .

as for Keurig . .. the coffee is incredibly expensive, generally brews weak in amounts over 6oz, and produces so much unnecessary trash . . .
 
Gary F said:
Waste can only be minimized and not eliminated. Sometimes we must choose between different types of waste, time verses other resources.
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There are machines that hold whole beans, grind them and make you a fresh cup, they do cost a bit more than a Keurig but don't use any more time and yield a better result. Our consumer society counts on wasting resource, that's why we live in a throwaway world. Short term gain for long term expense, worry about the mess and greater cost later, preferably after we're dead.
 
Henning said:
There are machines that hold whole beans, grind them and make you a fresh cup, they do cost a bit more than a Keurig but don't use any more time and yield a better result. Our consumer society counts on wasting resource, that's why we live in a throwaway world. Short term gain for long term expense, worry about the mess and greater cost later, preferably after we're dead.
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These are known as super automatic espresso machines and are big and expensive. http://www.wholelattelove.com/espre...ulmid=0&ultid=0&ulsid=0&query=&ptid=0&&scid=2
 
Henning, it's also wasteful to brew an 8 cup pot of coffee when you're only drinking 1-2 cups. Three people live in our house, two of us drink coffee but I'm the only one that drinks it daily. It would be wasteful for me to brew a standard full pot, but 1 k-cup works well. It's about $1/day and creates very little waste when you think about it. If you open up the cup and save the grounds for a compost pile the plastic waste is minute.
 
Z06_Mir said:
Henning, it's also wasteful to brew an 8 cup pot of coffee when you're only drinking 1-2 cups. Three people live in our house, two of us drink coffee but I'm the only one that drinks it daily. It would be wasteful for me to brew a standard full pot, but 1 k-cup works well. It's about $1/day and creates very little waste when you think about it. If you open up the cup and save the grounds for a compost pile the plastic waste is minute.
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But they make a simple basket for the Keurig. Yes, each K-Cup is minute, how many millions get used nation wide daily? Collectively the number is no longer minute. Don't we already make enough garbage?
 
Henning said:
But they make a simple basket for the Keurig. Yes, each K-Cup is minute, how many millions get used nation wide daily? Collectively the number is no longer minute. Don't we already make enough garbage?
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I'd rather throw away a k cup a day than throw away a Starbucks plastic up (iced) which is what I'd do if I had to refill and wash a I cup thing every day once or twice a day. No it's not as Eco friendly as reusable but it's more so than the alternative.
 
Henning said:
But they make a simple basket for the Keurig. Yes, each K-Cup is minute, how many millions get used nation wide daily? Collectively the number is no longer minute. Don't we already make enough garbage?
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I'm way past the point of giving a ****.
 
Just a tip...

Buy the commercial Keurig machine if you want it to last. Not their little faux-commercial one either. The big one.

The one at the office is going on three years I think. Constant use. They should have plumbed it into the water line. (Yes they make a kit for that, too.)

The home machine is not a commercial and has had a couple of problems. But it was purchased before they made them even cheaper quality.
 
I like to justify my flying habit by economizing in other ways. I find the Keurig cups to be more expensive than I would like to pay. I think a coffee filter is about 2 cents and a tablespoon of Maxwell House is way less than a dollar especially if I buy it on sale at Publix.

I occasionally use the cup that you can load yourself but it is a little bit of a challenge to clean out as others have said.

To go back to the original poster I didn't think about the D-Cup connection to the K-Cup.
 
I supplied some machinery to Folgers when they tried to get into this market with the Home Cafe brand. Their experts found that an incredible % of batch brewed coffee ended up being dumped down the drain. Hence the advantage of single serve machines.

Keurig has a new system now called Vue. Vue cups are not compatible with K cups. We got one of these for ourselves for Christmas and so far I like it.
 
I have one of the automated expresso brewers (I've had it for 12 years now) and had two in the office. These are fine if you use coffee fast enough to go through the beans while they are fresh. I like the Keurig while even though it isn't the greatest coffee in the world, it's better than stale coffee. It is handy for the random cup of decaf or cocoa as well.
 
K cup prices should come down as the patents are expiring. Hence the new and incompatible vue. If I do a keurig, it usually a 4 oz from one, then 6 from the next. But, even with free keurig at work, I use an aeropess when I have the two minutes to spare to grind and steep. Then coffee has flavor and aroma, and not just bitter water dressed in brown.
 
masloki said:
K cup prices should come down as the patents are expiring. Hence the new and incompatible vue. If I do a keurig, it usually a 4 oz from one, then 6 from the next. But, even with free keurig at work, I use an aeropess when I have the two minutes to spare to grind and steep. Then coffee has flavor and aroma, and not just bitter water dressed in brown.
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The patent has been expired for a year and a half now. One Cup has been making coffee which is pretty decent and slightly cheaper. Still GMCR has almost all the market share.
 
Gary F said:
These are known as super automatic espresso machines and are big and expensive. http://www.wholelattelove.com/espre...ulmid=0&ultid=0&ulsid=0&query=&ptid=0&&scid=2
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I have owned several of these over the years and keep coming back to them, because they make great coffee with very little hassle. I tend to buy them on the low end of the price scale, so they only seem to last a few years, though. I suppose if you bought a commercial quality one, they would last much longer. I really like the crema you get from it brewing under pressure and my GF likes lattes, so it is nice having the frother. It also puts out really hot water for tea and cocoa.
 
John221us said:
I have owned several of these over the years and keep coming back to them, because they make great coffee with very little hassle. I tend to buy them on the low end of the price scale, so they only seem to last a few years, though. I suppose if you bought a commercial quality one, they would last much longer. I really like the crema you get from it brewing under pressure and my GF likes lattes, so it is nice having the frother. It also puts out really hot water for tea and cocoa.
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I prefer a semi-automatic machine. It's not too hard to learn how to use one. I started out with the popular Rancilio Silvia and worked up to a Expobar Brutus. After a few more years practice I will be able to quit my current job to become a barista.
 
denverpilot said:
Just a tip...

Buy the commercial Keurig machine if you want it to last. Not their little faux-commercial one either. The big one.

The one at the office is going on three years I think. Constant use. They should have plumbed it into the water line. (Yes they make a kit for that, too.)

The home machine is not a commercial and has had a couple of problems. But it was purchased before they made them even cheaper quality.
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Nate; do you have a model # to reference?

I have been thinking of setting up a coffee station for customers at the office, and don't want to be dealing with constant warranty claims/returns on the machine.
 
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