John Travolta and his Boeing 727

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Dumb question time.
I recall hearing quite a few years ago about John Travolta owning and operating a Boeing 727 out of his home at an airpark, the first one the neighbors complained about the noise so he moved to a second airpark.
So, what are the logistics with basing a 727 at an airpark? I mean preflight, marshaling and whatever else I don't know about. I read in one place that he hired a flight crew of 6. What does it take to preflight a 727? What would the activity look like from parked in front of the house to take off? How long would it take? Does he hire ground crew in addition to the flight crew?
The $$$ to do this must be astounding. If you've got 'em, smoke 'em I guess.
 
It is a 707 actually. The airpark isn't your average airpark. It has two paved runways the longest of which is 7550. Unlike myself, he can't get his airplane into his house. He has to settle for just parking the cabin door under an overhang.

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The answer to the other questions is he has a crew. He isn't even qualified to be PIC. Even if he was, it takes at least two more people to fly the plane and more for logistical support.
 
I'm sure it's a lot simpler than you make it seem. If you have the funds to own the airplane, then you have the funds to have an aircrew, ground equipment etc., they take care of the preflight rituals so all he has to do is walk onboard, just like Trump.
 
At least Travolta knows enough to renew the registration.
 
We bought the Cirrus from his next door neighbor.
He said the plane no longer flies due to some mis fabricated parts and some lawsuits. His words.

The Small jet is the only one he flys now.

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He doesn't have a PIC type? I thought that he did.

I believe his small jet is a G-IV.
 
I am surprised he was able to keep the Qantas livery...usually removing that sort of stuff is a condition of sale.
 
I am surprised he was able to keep the Qantas livery...usually removing that sort of stuff is a condition of sale.

He is the goodwill ambassador for Quantas. His 707 is painted in a vintage paint scheme.

Ladys & Gentlemen fasten your seatbelts, the history of the John Travolta Boeing 707.

His 707-138B was built in 1964, constructed at Boeing Seattle and has Boeing Construction Number 18740 Line 388.

1964 John Travolta was 10 years old. Travolta first became enamored of aviation as a child. He observed the flight paths of the nearest airports, read books on aviation, and took special interest in Constellations, DC-6s and DC-7s. Attesting to his early charisma, he persuaded the girls in his neighborhood to don their Brownie uniforms to play flight attendants as he “captained” his backyard airliner.

On September 10, 1964 first owner became Qantas. It’s registration number became VH-EBM “City of Launceston”.
It was primary used for routes from Sydney to Asia and North/South America.

Since November 1, 1968 it was withdrawn from use and stored engineless at Sydney Airport. The same year in June it was already cancelled from the Australian Aircraft Register.

On June 7, 1969 new owner became Braniff International Airways. It’s registration number changed to N108BN.

From February 24, 1972 till 1975 it was owned by Frank Sinatra.
During this time, on October 20, 1973, it was again withdrawn from use and stored.

In June 1975 it was sold to Boeing.

In September 1975 it was again sold, this time to Kirk Kerkorian / Tracy Investments Corp (Tracinda / TIC).

Since September 26, 1977 it was owned by TAG Aviation, a holding company based in Luxembourg.

During this time it was also leased to Saudi Arabian Sheikh Akram, for short time.

On August 25, 1981 the 707 was again withdrawn from use, stored at Newark and ferried to Le Bourget for further storage in August 1983.

In December 1983 our 707 returned to service.

In November 1987 it has been sold to Trans Oceanic Aviation.

1988 - 1989 it was out of service again. During this time VIP interior was installed and it was modified with hush kits which converted it to a 707-138B(Q).

In July 1990, with a changed registration number to N707XX it returned to service.

In 1995 the ownage changed again to “Aviation Methods” and was ferried to Istanbul for storage on 29 October 1995.

In September 1996, with only 27,682 of total flying hours, it was offered for sale.

On May 20, 1998 it was finally registered to Jet Clipper Johnny LLC (John Travolta), sold on May 25, and changed registration on December 13, 1998 to N707JT “707 Jett Clipper Ella”. Named after his children “Jett” and “Ella”, Clipper in homage to legendary airline Pan Am, which used/uses “Clipper” in all their aircraft names.

In June 2002, the 707 finally returned home to Qantas, since Travolta participated in the Qantas “Spirit of Friendship” tour, because it was always his dream to be involved with a major airline in some way. He was piloting his own Boeing 707 on a thirteen city, 35,000 mile tour. [ Photo ] He continues as Ambassador-at-Large for the Australia based Qantas Airways. For this campaign the plane was repainted in full classical Qantas “V-Jet” livery. The same livery that was used for the 707’s first flights, back in the old days.

John Travolta is a pilot with a life long passion for aviation. Since earning his wings in 1974, he has logged close to an astounding 5,000 flying hours. Literally every cent of his first paychecks went to flying lessons. He achieved qualification as a captain in the Gulfstream II, Learjet 24, Hawker 1A, Citation 1 and 2, Tebuan and Vampire Jet. He owns the type rating for the Boeing 707 and is certified for SIC privileges (Second In Command). Travolta keeps his skill up-to-date through continual refresher courses, training at American Airlines, SimuFlite and others.
 
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John Travolta's immaculate crew with N707JT at Melbourne in July 2002.
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Photo: Gordon Reid
 
Thanks for the story Zeldman. :thumbsup:

In November of 1964 I flew in a Qantas 707 from Hong Kong to Bangkok. Was just my second time in a plane.
 
I know he is only SIC in the 707 (joke rating really), but I also thought he was VFR only in another plane or two. Can't remember exactly.

The guy is a joke. I have a bit of inside knowledge on his abilities. I used to fly with one of his old crew members. I've heard the stories.
 
The airport that Travolta has that house on just to be a private airport owned by the guy that invented Nautilus exercise equipment. Read an article about it in Pro Pilot magazine, late 70s. He owned 2-3 707s, I think a Gulfstream, was in his 60s, and had a hot little wife, early 20s, who flew his planes and was typed in the 707s I believe. They'd fly to Africa and bring back exotic animals that roamed this airport back then. Heard they divorced and she got the property and probably sold Travolta his part.
 
I know he is only SIC in the 707 (joke rating really), but I also thought he was VFR only in another plane or two. Can't remember exactly.

The guy is a joke. I have a bit of inside knowledge on his abilities. I used to fly with one of his old crew members. I've heard the stories.

Awe c'mon.
He is a pilot, One of us (minus the massage parlor handjob stuff) but one of us none the less.
If he's a joke then most of us are. He flies jets... I saw it in "Look Who's Talking"

He's a good dancer too.


And this has to be one of the best scenes in a movie

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Pulp Fiction, where he 'accidently' shot that kid. I watch that damn movie every time it comes on TV if seems.
 
Awe c'mon.
He is a pilot, One of us (minus the massage parlor handjob stuff) but one of us none the less.
If he's a joke then most of us are. He flies jets... I saw it in "Look Who's Talking"

He's a good dancer too.


And this has to be one of the best scenes in a movie

john-travolta-pulp-fiction.jpg
He'll always be Vinny Barbarino to me...!!
 
He'll always be Vinny Barbarino to me...!!

Yeah, what was that series? Watched faithfully every week.

But for me I liked him in those Shorty movies, the Angel one, and he was great in Pulp Fiction.

I was taxing out at JFK years ago and this Gulfstream approached from my left, GC told us to follow it. GC & the Gulfstream started BS'g as they were headed for Paris. Guess it was Travolta talking on the radio. So I guess I can say I took off behind Travolta, got that going for me. :rolleyes:
 
Yeah, what was that series? Watched faithfully every week.

But for me I liked him in those Shorty movies, the Angel one, and he was great in Pulp Fiction.

I was taxing out at JFK years ago and this Gulfstream approached from my left, GC told us to follow it. GC & the Gulfstream started BS'g as they were headed for Paris. Guess it was Travolta talking on the radio. So I guess I can say I took off behind Travolta, got that going for me. :rolleyes:
Welcome Back Kotter

He was a Sweathog
 
Dumb question time.
I recall hearing quite a few years ago about John Travolta owning and operating a Boeing 727 out of his home at an airpark, the first one the neighbors complained about the noise so he moved to a second airpark.
So, what are the logistics with basing a 727 at an airpark? I mean preflight, marshaling and whatever else I don't know about. I read in one place that he hired a flight crew of 6. What does it take to preflight a 727? What would the activity look like from parked in front of the house to take off? How long would it take? Does he hire ground crew in addition to the flight crew?
The $$$ to do this must be astounding. If you've got 'em, smoke 'em I guess.

So to get back to the original question about operating his 707 (not 727). Operating it out of an airpark isn't really a problem. That itself is no different than operating out of any other non-towered field, which (even big jets) do every day. In this country the non-towered fields are generally restricted to commuters, but in other countries it's not uncommon to see big jets landing at non-towered airports. Not really much for marshalling that's legally required. You have the crew, so they back the plane up (obviously there's an appropriate tug on-site) and then it's "N707JT departing runway [whatever]." Pick up your IFR in the air if you want.

You do need to have an appropriate crew with the appropriate certs up to date. My recollection is that it's not as simple as just buying the airplane and having pilots to fly it. Even if it's 91, I think there are extra approvals you need to get to fly the thing due to the size. It's not like buying a Lear (or even a Gulfstream) where all you need is the cash and the appropriately rated pilots.

But really, when you're flying something like that you're mostly going to be stuck to airports of a significant size. For example, the FBO needs to have a stair truck so you can get on and off. One of the FBOs on field at my airport (MKC) has such a truck. You commonly see A320s/737s there that have been chartered when sports teams are visiting. We also saw Trump's 757 there when he came for a rally during the primaries.

Yes, the dollars are going to be insane. But I have to give some respect for choosing to keep a 707 for the cool factor more than anything. If I had the money, I might do similar.
 
It is a 707 actually. The airpark isn't your average airpark. It has two paved runways the longest of which is 7550. Unlike myself, he can't get his airplane into his house. He has to settle for just parking the cabin door under an overhang.

TravoltaHome.jpg


The answer to the other questions is he has a crew. He isn't even qualified to be PIC. Even if he was, it takes at least two more people to fly the plane and more for logistical support.

He also has to settle for only being SIC last I checked


PRIVATE PILOT
Date of Issue: 6/5/2011
Certificate: PRIVATE PILOT Print
Ratings:
PRIVATE PILOT
AIRPLANE SINGLE ENGINE LAND
AIRPLANE MULTIENGINE LAND
INSTRUMENT AIRPLANE

Type Ratings:
P/B-707 P/B-720 P/CE-500 P/CL-600 P/EA-500S
P/G-1159 P/HS-125 P/LR-JET

Limits:
ENGLISH PROFICIENT.
AUTHORIZED EXPERIMENTAL AIRCRAFT: SO-G2.
B-707 SIC PRIVILEGES ONLY.
CE-500 (VFR ONLY).
 
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I know he is only SIC in the 707 (joke rating really), but I also thought he was VFR only in another plane or two. Can't remember exactly.

The guy is a joke. I have a bit of inside knowledge on his abilities. I used to fly with one of his old crew members. I've heard the stories.

He must be somewhat skilled. Some 20 years ago he experienced an electrical failure in a G-II while in IMC and flew partial panel to a successful landing.
 
The airport that Travolta has that house on just to be a private airport owned by the guy that invented Nautilus exercise equipment. Read an article about it in Pro Pilot magazine, late 70s. He owned 2-3 707s, I think a Gulfstream, was in his 60s, and had a hot little wife, early 20s, who flew his planes and was typed in the 707s I believe. They'd fly to Africa and bring back exotic animals that roamed this airport back then. Heard they divorced and she got the property and probably sold Travolta his part.

I flew over that field on a solo cross country back in '84. I remember seeing what looked like a 707 at the end of the runway. The runway was distinctive in that it had a "bulb" shape at the one end. I don't recall seeing anything else around (like houses). I just remember that plane parked on the end and thinking it was strange.

The guy is a joke.

Like Kenny Tan, but with money???



(Just to clarify, I have no issue with Mr. Travolta. I wish I had the money to do the things he's done in aviation.)
 
Dumb question time.
I recall hearing quite a few years ago about John Travolta owning and operating a Boeing 727 out of his home at an airpark, the first one the neighbors complained about the noise so he moved to a second airpark.
So, what are the logistics with basing a 727 at an airpark? I mean preflight, marshaling and whatever else I don't know about. I read in one place that he hired a flight crew of 6. What does it take to preflight a 727? What would the activity look like from parked in front of the house to take off? How long would it take? Does he hire ground crew in addition to the flight crew?
The $$$ to do this must be astounding. If you've got 'em, smoke 'em I guess.

There are open lots at the airpark. The last time I looked the "HOA" dues were EXPENSIVE... many thousands a year... just to start...

I'm sure he has staff to tend to the planes and maintain them... (planes as in multiple... I think he's got a bizjet and a few others)
 
I flew over that field on a solo cross country back in '84. I remember seeing what looked like a 707 at the end of the runway. The runway was distinctive in that it had a "bulb" shape at the one end. I don't recall seeing anything else around (like houses). I just remember that plane parked on the end and thinking it was strange.QUOTE]

Yes I remember that 'bulb' from the picture in Pro Pilot. I think the article said the runway was 8000' which sounds about right for a 707'
 
...The guy is a joke. I have a bit of inside knowledge on his abilities. I used to fly with one of his old crew members. I've heard the stories.

Really?
Spend a lot of time formulating opinions of people based on second hand gossip, do we?

Most of us seek out what talents we have to make the best living we can, feed our kids, pay the mortgage, put some fuel in the plane. JT seems to have done a fine job discovering and honing his talents...and along the way seems to have made enough money at it to be able to own a B707 as a toy. Can you top that? ;)
 
Really?
Spend a lot of time formulating opinions of people based on second hand gossip, do we?

Most of us seek out what talents we have to make the best living we can, feed our kids, pay the mortgage, put some fuel in the plane. JT seems to have done a fine job discovering and honing his talents...and along the way seems to have made enough money at it to be able to own a B707 as a toy. Can you top that? ;)

I once burped the alphabet to the letter N
 
I once burped the alphabet to the letter N

You have nothing to worry about.
All of us on this board remain in awe of your screenwriting, film production, cinematography and video editing skills. :biggrin:
 
Really?
Spend a lot of time formulating opinions of people based on second hand gossip, do we?
Yes, I have no use for the guy.
A number of years ago he was on David Letterman. He made some very silly comments concerning his flying experience.
I laughed at him and started forming an opinion.
 
He must be somewhat skilled. Some 20 years ago he experienced an electrical failure in a G-II while in IMC and flew partial panel to a successful landing.
It was a successful landing, but there is a lot more to it than that.

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
 
we used to fly there sundays for there brunch offering. the airport 17fl, called jumbolair was just a short hop when i had a faster aircraft. back in 2005-2010 when he lived there full time he stopped in for brunch once and while and said hello to a few people .
 
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Thanks for all the replies, I did mean 707 not 727. I had visions of flying monkey penisis ( penii? ) in my head I could not repress.

I had seen some of the info you all came up with, missed some of it.

I'm sure it's a lot simpler than you make it seem.

This doesn't surprise me, it's why I asked. I know it's silliness but sometimes just can't stop wondering about things.

For example, the FBO needs to have a stair truck so you can get on and off.

And this is the sort of logistic I hadn't even considered.

Now I need to go listen to the "Welcome Back Kotter" theme song a kazillion times and see if it can push that monkey thing out. That or go Horshack and yell out the window "I'm ad mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore"...
 
My recollection is that it's not as simple as just buying the airplane and having pilots to fly it. Even if it's 91, I think there are extra approvals you need to get to fly the thing due to the size. It's not like buying a Lear (or even a Gulfstream) where all you need is the cash and the appropriately rated pilots.

I wonder how airliners are operated under part 91 in general too. Sometimes at work, we ferry white tails that aren't on the OPS Spec yet for Mx. Our group gets involved if they need an authorization to refer to previous operators MEL for a deferral. There is no valid MEL with FAA approval letter until it's in service and it goes on the Ops Spec. Usually, it's for some small thing like a cockpit switch annunciatior or something. I just crank out what the FAA approved policy says to, and there are flight restrictions (daytime, VFR) but I do wonder what actually defines the minimum equipment requirement. TOMATO FLAMES just doesn't even begin to cover an airplane so complex.
 
.... but I do wonder what actually defines the minimum equipment requirement. TOMATO FLAMES just doesn't even begin to cover an airplane so complex.
TOMATO FLAMES doesn't begin to cover a simple airplane.
 
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