Ipad question for soon to be CFI

GPS takes power sir, more power than cell on standby. When the GPS in my iPhone6+ is on, the thing gets hot. That's not only indicative of a battery drain, it adds to overheat shut down problems.

You're confusing graphics with GPS. GPS is always on. But when you activate the Maps app to guide you someplace it's driving the moving map and that's the heat you feel generated. It's not the GPS.
 
You're confusing graphics with GPS. GPS is always on. But when you activate the Maps app to guide you someplace it's driving the moving map and that's the heat you feel generated. It's not the GPS.

I don't believe GPS is always on, it does not so indicate. When I am using GPS navigation on my iPhone6+ it lasts 3.5hrs. When I watch movies on it when traveling, it lasts 8 hours. The only difference is GPS.

My iPad or iPhone running Garmin Pilot fed by Bluetooth last the same as watching videos.
 
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I don't believe GPS is always on, it does not so indicate. When I am using GPS navigation on my iPhone6+ it lasts 3.5hrs. When I watch movies on it when traveling, it lasts 8 hours. The only difference is GPS.

My iPad or iPhone running Garmin Pilot fed by Bluetooth last the same as watching videos.

How do you think Location services works on your phone?? :rolleyes:

Watching a movie is not CPU-intensive. Vector-based moving maps are. It's the processing activity, NOT the GPS.
 
The mini really works best for me and my Mooney. I like to have the tablet on the yoke so the approach plate is right in front of me. The mini handles this best without obscuring anything on the panel. The size really lends itself better for a yoke mounted tablet. I have the wifi version only but I use a Stratus 2 for the GPS source and weather. The combination of the two is really great. Before the Stratus I used a Bad Elf GPS Pro (Bluetooth) and that worked well too. Before the mini I had a regular iPad with cell/GPS. There were times when it would lose reception (specially if I exited FF and used other apps). I also noticed it was not very accurate at times. Sometimes I would be tracking an ILS with all the needles centered and it would show my position to the right or left of centerline on the approach plate. With the Stratus, and even the Bad Elf Pro the position was always dead on and I would never lose GPS lock. When on the ground and when there is no wifi available I simply pair the mini with my iPhone and use it as a hotspot.


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I don't understand the whole "must get cellular model" thing. I have wifi only, and in the rare occasion I need cell I simply tether to my phone. It's one button and takes five seconds. No extra cell service bill.
 
How do you think Location services works on your phone?? :rolleyes:

Watching a movie is not CPU-intensive. Vector-based moving maps are. It's the processing activity, NOT the GPS.

Same way it does on my wifi only iPad without GPS, through the addresses of the wifi routers it sees.
 
I don't understand the whole "must get cellular model" thing. I have wifi only, and in the rare occasion I need cell I simply tether to my phone. It's one button and takes five seconds. No extra cell service bill.



I have cellular, I have never activated the cellular nor sent a single dollar to Verizon.

BUT, the GPS is only in the cellular iPads, so, to have location displayed on the moving map, you must have cellular to get the internal GPS chipset.
 
I don't understand the whole "must get cellular model" thing. I have wifi only, and in the rare occasion I need cell I simply tether to my phone. It's one button and takes five seconds. No extra cell service bill.

The Cellular model has an internal GPS. The wifi only one doesn't. That's a compelling reason to get the Cellular ipad.
 
I have cellular, I have never activated the cellular nor sent a single dollar to Verizon.

BUT, the GPS is only in the cellular iPads, so, to have location displayed on the moving map, you must have cellular to get the internal GPS chipset.

I was not aware only cell iPads had GPS. All this time I really thought I had GPS lol!! Do you need a cellular connection to run the GPS? Is so, what altitude does it lose signal?
 
Nope, no need to have the cellular service activated to utilize the GPS. The signal reception seems to vary. Some people report no issues and others say it can be spotty at times.

You could buy an external GPS such as a Bad Elf or Dual for about $100 and connect it to your iPad via Bluetooth. They do seem to get GPS signals a little better than the internal one.
 
Also, while you pay a small premium to get cellular and gps, you will also receive a small premium when you go to sell it.

Amortized over several years of use, that price difference is pretty insignificant.
 
Sell used electronics, that's a novel thought, might have to try...

I would figure most people have a device to get ADS-B in as well for weather and traffic. That has a GPS as well, and is ~ the price of the cellular upgrade.
 
As a CFI i prefer the built in GPS (Cellular model) But don't use the Cellular option, I just use the Hotspot off my cell phone. I also prefer the larger one, in part because I am old enough the I now need glasses to see smaller stuff. also as mentioned larger is nice when using it to debrief or during ground training with students. When flying it usually just sits in my lap where I used to set a sectional chart. since am switching planes often it almost never is mounted or has access to an external GPS.

Brian
 
I'd say go as large as is feasible for the cockpit in question.

Here's my iPad Mini in my Sky Arrow:

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...and here's a full-sized:

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Either will work, but the Mini is much less cumbersome.

For an instructor using an iPad for teaching, I'd think the new iPad Pro would be ideal for ground instruction and flight prep. With the pencil, would be almost ideal for sketching out lesson elements and such.

And let me insert my standard caveat - an iPad loose in one's lap or on the passenger seat is a bad idea. There are "air pockets" which can and will eventually send it flying, which at best is a distraction, and at worst can jam something.
 
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