iPad charging in flight

I have an iPad3 and a mini. My iPad produces static on my Garmin 430 whether it is connected to the lighter socket or a USB battery back or a lighter plug battery pack. The mini does not produce static. This occurs with the apple cable, a special "anti" noise" cable, and a generic cable. My King 170B in my 430 plane and my king 155's in my trainer do not produce static. On the power charging issue, using 2.1 and 2.4 amp sockets, my iPad3 will not charge; it just discharges a little slower. I used the wifi (iLevil SW) for the mini and the Dual 170 for the iPad3(blue Tooth with wifi off) and both had more than 25% left after 7 hour trips so I am not concerned regarding the battery charging issue (not charging). When I upgrade to the Air 2, I believe the lack of charging will not be an issue.
 
winrose46 said:
I have an iPad3 and a mini. My iPad produces static on my Garmin 430 whether it is connected to the lighter socket or a USB battery back or a lighter plug battery pack. The mini does not produce static. This occurs with the apple cable, a special "anti" noise" cable, and a generic cable.
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Same charger with all three cables? Likely just switching power supply noise. Change the switcher's frequency -- by getting a different charger and preferably one with a different chipset inside of you're willing to look -- and it'll likely go away. Depends on if it's the charger or the switcher inside the iPad.

Here's what you're fighting with most USB chargers. Not my video but lots of them throw 20dB or more of RF trash into the aviation band.

http://youtu.be/Wvz4uu5opLg

You could find a good avionics shop with an RF service monitor similar to the lovely R&S that Public Safety guy has in the video if you want to know for sure.

winrose46 said:
My King 170B in my 430 plane and my king 155's in my trainer do not produce static.
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Better front end RF filters than the Garmin and probably less sensitivity. That said, I think Garmin makes crap radios. Especially their audio coloring.

winrose46 said:
On the power charging issue, using 2.1 and 2.4 amp sockets, my iPad3 will not charge; it just discharges a little slower.
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This doesn't seem right. At maximum screen brightness maybe, but there's no way you're drawing 2.4 amps just to power the device
continuously. There was a recent thread with test tools. Have you checked that it's really drawing 2.0+A when plugged in?

winrose46 said:
I used the wifi (iLevil SW) for the mini and the Dual 170 for the iPad3(blue Tooth with wifi off) and both had more than 25% left after 7 hour trips so I am not concerned regarding the battery charging issue (not charging). When I upgrade to the Air 2, I believe the lack of charging will not be an issue.
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This is true. The batteries in the current crop of devices work great for a long time.
 
Same charger with all three cables? Likely just switching power supply noise. Change the switcher's frequency -- by getting a different charger and preferably one with a different chipset inside of you're willing to look -- and it'll likely go away. Depends on if it's the charger or the switcher inside the iPad.
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Three different power sources as well as three different cables on each of the different power sources.
 
FastEddieB said:
One of the tech shows recently pointed out there were FOUR chips at work in a Lightning cable!

In any case, I've bought and used several of the "Amazon Basics" cables (currently $10.99 with free shipping for Amazon Prime members) and so far they seem to work just fine.

http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-...id=1422278287&sr=1-1&keywords=lightning+cable
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I picked up a "cheap $5" Lighting cable at the local Office Max as a backup cable.
Checked it in the truck with a 2.1 amp cig lighter usb charger and it worked fine for charging the Air2.

Also learned the C-182RG has a cig lighter port. The T-41B does not, I do have an 11000mAh battery pack that might charge the Air2 for a while. I use it for my soaring computer, an Oudie2 connectd to a Nano GPS reciever.

My Bad Elf Pro will last for days on a charge recording GPS log file and Bluetooth connection to the Air2.
 
winrose46 said:
Three different power sources as well as three different cables on each of the different power sources.
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Very odd. Any friends with an identical iPad? That would be a mystery I would want to mess with to figure it out. Heh.
 
FastEddieB said:
One of the tech shows recently pointed out there were FOUR chips at work in a Lightning cable!

In any case, I've bought and used several of the "Amazon Basics" cables (currently $10.99 with free shipping for Amazon Prime members) and so far they seem to work just fine.

http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-...id=1422278287&sr=1-1&keywords=lightning+cable
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I've also had good luck with Amazon Basics cables. Before that I bought a cheap one which was a waste of money.
 
https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/sho...-multi-charger/prod142325.html#gallery-dialog

I have the previous version of this charger and it works great. Looks like this version has 2 high power ports but mine only has one 2.4 and one a little lower power. But it also has a socket on the end. Today my iPad Mini 2 was at 78% when I plugged it in to the higher power port and it charged it to 100% in my hour flight. Ipad 2 was in the 2nd port and slowly charged, ADS-B plugged into the socket running as well.

I highly recommend it
 
winrose46 said:
I have an iPad3 and a mini. My iPad produces static on my Garmin 430 whether it is connected to the lighter socket or a USB battery back or a lighter plug battery pack. The mini does not produce static. This occurs with the apple cable, a special "anti" noise" cable, and a generic cable. My King 170B in my 430 plane and my king 155's in my trainer do not produce static. On the power charging issue, using 2.1 and 2.4 amp sockets, my iPad3 will not charge; it just discharges a little slower. I used the wifi (iLevil SW) for the mini and the Dual 170 for the iPad3(blue Tooth with wifi off) and both had more than 25% left after 7 hour trips so I am not concerned regarding the battery charging issue (not charging). When I upgrade to the Air 2, I believe the lack of charging will not be an issue.
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With a different cable and a 2.4A socket it now slowly charges while in use....about 1% every 15 min or so.
 
vfsit said:
https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/sho...-multi-charger/prod142325.html#gallery-dialog

I have the previous version of this charger and it works great. Looks like this version has 2 high power ports but mine only has one 2.4 and one a little lower power. But it also has a socket on the end. Today my iPad Mini 2 was at 78% when I plugged it in to the higher power port and it charged it to 100% in my hour flight. Ipad 2 was in the 2nd port and slowly charged, ADS-B plugged into the socket running as well.

I highly recommend it
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ok I'm an idiot... wrong charger... went flying today and mine is this:
http://www.staples.com/TomTom-9UUC05206-High-Speed-Multi-Charger/product_293029#desc_content
 
Let'sgoflying! said:
can the 'android' port be used for an apple device?
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Unlikely.
Personally I've had good luck with the Anker stuff which seems smart enough to charge Apple or Android on all it's ports. Here's their lighter adapter:

http://www.amazon.com/Charger-PowerIQ-Technology-Samsung-Motorola/dp/B00D82O68Y

Monoprice also makes a 2 port adapter with a pass-through jack to plug in another charger if you need to. But only one of its two USB ports is likely to work with high-drain devices. Although, truthfully I haven't actually tested it with the ipad, I guess I should do that, I did spend all weekend with Delorme inReach plugged into the other port. http://www.monoprice.com/Product?p_id=11014
 
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