In the navy.....

Zeldman said:
Gold wings. And after talking to him for 1 minute it was pretty easy to determine he was not a naval aviator or even a pilot. When I made the mistake of asking him if he was carrier qualified, he immediately went into how many times he had landed with battle damage, at night, in hurricane like winds..... I asked what he flew and he started naming many types of planes. He was non-stop talking and was just not making any sense to me. He wanted to show his naval aviators card, his secret clearance, and military intelligence card and a few other cards. I did not think to ask for his military ID.

Pretty sure if I had asked him if he was an aviation warfare specialist he would have started telling me about his combat experience there. He was wearing a naval officers rank. Like I mentioned before, I am not familiar with navy ranks, but he had a silver star on his collar.
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Common story of stolon valor. Those guys are always doing secret squirrel or heroic things. They're never mechanics or cooks. ;)
 
35 AoA said:
These is such a thing as a card with your naval aviator number on it.......not commonly carried, I have no idea where mine is. Never heard of a clearance card or a military intelligence card. There is such a thing as a classified courier card, but likely not what he was attempting to articulate to you.
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You don't get a generic Naval Aviator card but you get issued an airframe specific card such as "Tomcat pilot." Must be in your possession at all times while fulfilling pilot duties in that airframe.

 
Timbeck2 said:
Common story of stolon valor. Those guys are always doing secret squirrel or heroic things. They're never mechanics or cooks. ;)
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As I mentioned before I believe this guy suffered some mental instability or something. He just would not stop talking, even after I turned around and left he latched onto some folks standing near me. He was definitely off his meds.
 
Velocity173 said:
You don't get a generic Naval Aviator card but you get issued an airframe specific card such as "Tomcat pilot." Must be in your possession at all times while fulfilling pilot duties in that airframe.

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Ok, thanks. I was thinking that there was some sort of card carried that was airplane specific.

That was the uniform this guy had on. Short sleeve khaki "suntans". He did not have nearly as much hardware though, but he was non stop talking like the guy in the video.
 
X3 Skier said:
The Black Shoes run the Ship but the Brown Shoes land on the Boat.

Cheers
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Don't let my former boss here you say boat and ship in the same sentence. He'd yell a "ship is for surface dwellers. A boat is for real men".

He's also a nuke. So he's not very straight in the head. :D
 
Timbeck2 said:
Common story of stolon valor. Those guys are always doing secret squirrel or heroic things. They're never mechanics or cooks. ;)
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I was a mechanic. We did all kinds of super secret duties in indian country.....with the cooks.....:rolleyes:

I could tell ya about changing the oil in a truck but then I'd have to kill ya.....:lol::lol::lol:
 
Velocity173 said:
You don't get a generic Naval Aviator card but you get issued an airframe specific card such as "Tomcat pilot." Must be in your possession at all times while fulfilling pilot duties in that airframe.
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You're wrong about that, Tomcat pilots didn't have to carry a card. Everyone just knew who they were.;)
 
Single Star on this clown's "Naval Uniform" collar = Rank of Commodore. Now "extinct" (again) as a Navy rank since once promoted to Flag officer or Admiral in the USN, you get two stars as a Rear Admiral, Lower Half but paid and status as a one star, like a Brigadier General in the USAF and USA. Next step up is Rear Admiral, Upper Half and Major General and all have two stars.

Cheers
 
Zeldman said:
I was a mechanic. We did all kinds of super secret duties in indian country.....with the cooks.....:rolleyes:

I could tell ya about changing the oil in a truck but then I'd have to kill ya.....:lol::lol::lol:
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Ah... you used the synthetic stuff, huh?
 
X3 Skier said:
Single Star on this clown's "Naval Uniform" collar = Rank of Commodore. Now "extinct" (again) as a Navy rank since once promoted to Flag officer or Admiral in the USN, you get two stars as a Rear Admiral, Lower Half but paid and status as a one star, like a Brigadier General in the USAF and USA. Next step up is Rear Admiral, Upper Half and Major General and all have two stars.

Cheers
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That may have been true a long time ago, but hasn't been the case since I have been commissioned (over 18 years). In the Navy, a Rear Admiral Lower Half wears a single star. I have personally worked for a few of them.
 
Cooter said:
You're wrong about that, Tomcat pilots didn't have to carry a card. Everyone just knew who they were.;)
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True. Easily identifiable by the long sad face they shamefully wore, knowing it took two people to do the job of one. Also the petitions to SecNav they always carried, looking for signatures, asking (first) for a LANTIRN pod to remain relevant, and (second) pleading for a two seat fleet Hornet, so as, you know, to keep the shirtless volleyball team fully manned.

Oh wait, they have to wear shirts now, EOE Naval Aviation and all, now. My bad.
 
catmandu said:
True. Easily identifiable by the long sad face they shamefully wore, knowing it took two people to do the job of one. Also the petitions to SecNav they always carried, looking for signatures, asking (first) for a LANTIRN pod to remain relevant, and (second) pleading for a two seat fleet Hornet, so as, you know, to keep the shirtless volleyball team fully manned.

Oh wait, they have to wear shirts now, EOE Naval Aviation and all, now. My bad.
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Lemme guess, a Tomcat guy took your woman home from the club?
 
Fearless Tower said:
That may have been true a long time ago, but hasn't been the case since I have been commissioned (over 18 years). In the Navy, a Rear Admiral Lower Half wears a single star. I have personally worked for a few of them.
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Been away some 20 years so things have changed. I was a lowly weenie in the F-111 System Program Office at WPAFB when it was a joint program back in the day. Program Director was a USAF B/G one star and then the Deputy Dog was a Rear Admiral, Lower Half two star. Suddenly the USAF PD was bumped to M/G:D

Cheers
 
Velocity173 said:
Aren't you in Alaska? That's Army country. Most likely an Army Aviator posing as a Naval Aviator to get chicks. :D
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Plenty of USAF presence in AK, just off the top of my head, Elmendorf, Eilelson, Shimia (sp), Galena, Clear, but you are right about naval aviators, too cold for them.
 
We used to head out to Ft Greely with the sole intent to take Army guys girl friends away from them. sometimes it was painful but still enjoyable.
 
X3 Skier said:
Been away some 20 years so things have changed. I was a lowly weenie in the F-111 System Program Office at WPAFB when it was a joint program back in the day. Program Director was a USAF B/G one star and then the Deputy Dog was a Rear Admiral, Lower Half two star. Suddenly the USAF PD was bumped to M/G:D
Cheers
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Seriously? My brother was at Wright Patt., and was Program Manager, at Major, '91 to '94, and Division Chief as a Colonel, '01 to '05. Between those times he dabbled at the Pentagon.
 
GlennAB1 said:
Seriously? My brother was at Wright Patt., and was Program Manager, at Major, '91 to '94, and Division Chief as a Colonel, '01 to '05. Between those times he dabbled at the Pentagon.
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Retired at WPAFB in '97 as Chief Engineer of the C-17. Before that, '89-'94, Chief Engineer of the YF-22/YF-23/F-22.

Cheers
 
Very cool. Among his long list of accomplishments, my brother managed the AC-130U gunship test program, and C-20H acquisition from '91 - '94, and received the AFSC Test and Evaluation Award for the C-29A program in 1990.
 
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Fearless Tower said:
That may have been true a long time ago, but hasn't been the case since I have been commissioned (over 18 years). In the Navy, a Rear Admiral Lower Half wears a single star. I have personally worked for a few of them.
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It hasn't been true since 1981.
 
X3 Skier said:
Retired at WPAFB in '97 as Chief Engineer of the C-17. Before that, '89-'94, Chief Engineer of the YF-22/YF-23/F-22.
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I'll bet we have some friends in common. ;)

Nauga,
and his common friends
 
nauga said:
I'll bet we have some friends in common. ;)

Nauga,
and his common friends
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Being known as somewhat of a Hard A** back in the day, might be hard to find "friends".:D

I did get to know the Guys in TAC/DR pretty well. One of them called my Boss and I the "Dayton Bulldogs Tag Team Wrestlers":mad:.

Cheers
 
Zeldman said:
I was a mechanic. We did all kinds of super secret duties in indian country.....with the cooks.....:rolleyes:

I could tell ya about changing the oil in a truck but then I'd have to kill ya.....:lol::lol::lol:
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I think you may have missed my point. The stolen valor guys are NEVER mechanics or cooks. They're always some sort of special forces on leave from top secret missions. You obviously served as did I. The "real" guys don't talk about it or wear uniforms in public places.
 
Velocity173 said:
You don't get a generic Naval Aviator card but you get issued an airframe specific card such as "Tomcat pilot." Must be in your possession at all times while fulfilling pilot duties in that airframe.

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Lmao I think that guy stole the whole damn war
 
Timbeck2 said:
I think you may have missed my point. The stolen valor guys are NEVER mechanics or cooks. They're always some sort of special forces on leave from top secret missions. You obviously served as did I. The "real" guys don't talk about it or wear uniforms in public places.
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I got your point, I was just trying to share the exciting and super secret mechanic special forces unit ....:lol::lol:
 
CC268 said:
Lmao I think that guy stole the whole damn war
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Yeah, he cracks me up. I don't get all fired up about the stolen valor stuff. I'd rather not see him wearing badges and medals that some have worked hard for and in some cases died for though. Someone really needs to pull him aside and inform him this isn't a Halloween costume.
 
Velocity173 said:
Yeah, he cracks me up. I don't get all fired up about the stolen valor stuff. I'd rather not see him wearing badges and medals that some have worked hard for and in some cases died for though. Someone really needs to pull him aside and inform him this isn't a Halloween costume.
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Yea he clearly has a mental disability
 
35 AoA said:
I have a set of AWG's, but they most certainly did not
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Brown shoes were worn with aviation winter greens and service dress Khaki, WE now have service dress white and service dress Blues, both require black shoes. I wore all 4 uniforms as Chief. I wore my Greens the last day they were authorized, in 1981.
get an old blue jackets manual and read it.
 
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Tom-D said:
Brown shoes were worn with aviation winter greens and service dress Khaki, WE now have service dress white and service dress Blues, both require black shoes. I wore all 4 uniforms as Chief. I wore my Greens the last day they were authorized, in 1981.
get an old blue jackets manual and read it.
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huh? Did I not previously mention that SDW and SDB require blacks? Doesn't mean browns went away....we still wear khakis, with brown shoes. So, they did not go away with AWG's, which was my point. Not sure what you are yammering on about here, Chief :)
 
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