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evapilotaz

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Don't Hate me but I bought a drone for Christmas. Its my first drone so I didn't want to spend a bunch of money. I will upgrade to something better in the near future.

http://www.amazon.com/Hubsan-H107D-...418401934&sr=8-1&keywords=hubsan+x4+h107d+fpv

I'm an Active RC pilot and swore off I would never buy a drone Quadcopter. :mad2: Well my 17yr son talked me into it. :yes:

The beginner is all ready to fly so anyone can get into this without any RC experience.
 
evapilotaz said:
What until I buy that 20 pound drone and fly it in PHX Class B. I want to get some inflight video off the end of the runway as aircraft are landing.

I'm joking.
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...but not really...
 
I want to fly an RC plane from inside the plane.
 
I have some old metal geared monsters around here somewhere that I pulled from the 100cc Katana when I bought it :)
 
Let us know how you like it. Seems like a nice little training vehicle for FPV flying. I ordered a pocket drone myself. Still waiting for it to come... probably in January I suppose.
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That's quite a deal for live video feed. I'm sure it's not GoPro 4 quality, but...
 
From the bottom of the Amazon link:
Important Information
Learn more about flying responsibly. Many countries, including the United States, regulate the use of unmanned aircraft. Before flying, make sure to understand the rules that apply to you. Visit the Drone Store to find the right drone for you.
 
i'm pretty sure FPV is "no go" in USA at the moment (and likely forever) :mad:
 
Greg, they will take action against your PPL (and all others certs if you've got them) for any fpv related violation, likely, just to make a point....
 
evapilotaz said:
Don't Hate me but I bought a drone for Christmas. Its my first drone so I didn't want to spend a bunch of money. I will upgrade to something better in the near future.
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Dang it. I didn't know I wanted one until this post.... Stupid POA forums. :D
 
igorek82 said:
Greg, they will take action against your PPL (and all others certs if you've got them) for any fpv related violation, likely, just to make a point....
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They can have it. I don't need it to fly.
 
woodchucker said:
Let us know how you like it. Seems like a nice little training vehicle for FPV flying. I ordered a pocket drone myself. Still waiting for it to come... probably in January I suppose.
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"Is that a drone in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?" ;)
 
evapilotaz said:
Look at the reviews of the one I got. Im afraid I will be hooked on Drone Flying. My house is within the 5 miles boundary of a class D airport. Do I call up the tower and request take off Clearance. :dunno:
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Nice you will be able to get all sorts of cool closeup to airplane videos.:yes::)
 
igorek82 said:
i'm pretty sure FPV is "no go" in USA at the moment (and likely forever) :mad:
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Huh? FPV just stands for "First Person View", meaning you have live video on the controller. Just about all of the newer ones have that and it doesn't have anything to do with legality issues.
 
Silvaire said:
Huh? FPV just stands for "First Person View", meaning you have live video on the controller. Just about all of the newer ones have that and it doesn't have anything to do with legality issues.
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I think he means if you use FPV capability to fly out of line of sight. Having the capability isn't against the rules but using a certain way is.
 
Silvaire said:
Huh? FPV just stands for "First Person View", meaning you have live video on the controller. Just about all of the newer ones have that and it doesn't have anything to do with legality issues.
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The FAA Released a 17 page memo on June 17, 2014 titled Interpretation of the Special Rule for Model Aircraft. This is essentially a memo where the FAA states how they interpret the rules and regulations regarding model aircraft flights in US Airspace. They state that this is a "Notice of Interpretation with Request for Comment" meaning they are looking for feedback from the community at large. If you fly FPV at all, this affects you. Take a look at this snippet from the memo:

By definition, a model aircraft must be flown within visual line of sight of the person operating the aircraft. P.L. 112-95, section 336(c)(2).1 Based on the plain language of the statute, the FAA interprets this requirement to mean that: (1) the aircraft must be visible at all times to the operator; (2) that the operator must use his or her own natural vision (which includes vision corrected by standard eyeglasses or contact lenses) to observe the aircraft; and (3) people other than the operator may not be used in lieu of the operator for maintaining visual line of sight. Under the criteria above, visual line of sight would mean that the operator has an unobstructed view of the model aircraft. To ensure that the operator has the best view of the aircraft, the statutory requirement would preclude the use of vision-enhancing devices, such as binoculars, night vision goggles, powered vision magnifying devices, and goggles designed to provide a “first-person view” from the model.

This essentially says we cannot fly FPV at all, in order to maintain a direct visual line of sight with our aircraft.

more here

this reminds me that I need to sell few AMUs worth of RC-related electronics and use the money on some aerobatic bird rental, hopefully a Pitts :yes:
 
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I sold off most of my rc stuff and all of my fpv stuff before my son was born. At this point, I'd rather drive 45 minutes to an airport to fly an airplane than drive 45 minutes to the rc field to fly a model. Ironically, it seems that there is less regulatory uncertainty with fullscale.

Quads make fpv too easy, anyway.

igorek82 said:
this reminds me that I need to sell few AMUs worth of RC-related electronics and use the money on some aerobatic bird rental, hopefully a Pitts :yes:
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Manufactures are still selling Fvp
Capable quads but they cannot control what we do with them. I'm not really interested in fly Fpv without line of sight anyway. I'm more interested in video graphy from a quad.
 
igorek82 said:
...and goggles designed to provide a “first-person view” from the model.

This essentially says we cannot fly FPV at all, in order to maintain a direct visual line of sight with our aircraft...
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If we are going to over-analyze this memo and extrapolate restrictions from it I'm going to have to say that most people utilize their iPhone or equivalent for FPV and I don't see how that could be interpreted as "goggles" by any stretch of the imagination. I think what it really means is that you have to keep the device within line of unassisted sight and that is regardless of any WiFi video technology onboard. After all, these devices already have the capability to autonomously fly a route of waypoints without any remote control at all, even without FPV.
 
I want to set up a pair of drones linked to peripheral motion sensors to autonomously act like Zeus and Apollo on Magnum PI. Okay, they won't bite but they will pester the heck out of any intruder who happens by when I'm not home. Would this be illegal if it is on private property and never more than 30 or 40 feet altitude?
 
Well I purchased the drone. I put in 4 flights on it and wrapped it up and placed it under the Christmas tree. Let's say this is my beginning to the drone addiction.
 
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