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In the interest of moving recreational aviation into the twenty-first century, here is a score sheet for rating your local airport on its attractiveness to females. Pretend you are a woman on her first visit to the flying school/club. You are on a mission to find out if aviation is for you.

1/ Drive into the parking lot. How many spaces are reserved for pregnant women and the handicapped?
Score +5 for each one.
Score -5 for each space in the front row reserved for the manager and/or CFI.

2/ How many cars in the lot display macho personalized licence plates such as "AV8R," "TALDRAGR" or "MILEHIGH"?
Score -1 for each.
Score +1 for every "MOMSTAXI."

3-A/ Open the door to the flying club lounge or flying school office. Everyone in the room turns to see who is walking in. If they know you, do they say "Hi" or some other greeting?
Score +1 for each yes.
Score -1 for every no.
3-B/ Watch the same people when a stranger walks in. They look, then what do they do?
Score +1 for each friendly greeting to the stranger.
Score -1 for every aviator in the room who turns back to what they were doing without saying anything.
3-C/ Now watch if a strange woman comes through the door. Note: You may have to wait awhile.
Score -5 for each man who stares at her without saying anything.
Score +5 for each person who immediately says, "Hi, welcome to the our flying school!"

4/ Look at the bulletin board.
Score -10 for each notice that says:
"Wanted: Woman with airplane. Must like flight planning, navigating and polishing aluminum. Preference given to applicants with aircraft maintenance engineer licence and/or instrument rating. Send picture of airplane."
Score +10 for each notice declaring, "Bondar for Minister of Transport"

5/ How about the magazine table?
Score +1 for each woman’s publication.
Score +5 for each woman’s aviation magazine.
Score -1 for each aviation magazine dated from the last century.
Score -5 for each woman’s wrestling publication.

6/ Now go to the washroom.
Score +1 if there is a separate lady’s washroom.
Score +2 if it is cleaner than the men’s and stocked with toilet paper and paper towels.
Score +3 if the toilet seat is down.
Score -1 if the toilet paper feels like a Trade-a-plane.
Score -2 if the toilet paper is a Trade-a-plane.
Score -3 if there is a peephole in the wall between the men’s and ladies’ washroom.

7/ Who is working behind the flight desk?
Score -5 if the dispatcher is wearing a low-cut, red T-shirt that reads "Remove before flight."
Score -10 if the dispatcher above asks the female stranger if she’s looking for a date.
Score +5 if there is a smiling person behind the desk who is knowledgeable and interested in the strange women’s questions.
Score +10 if the smiling person behind the desk looks like Brad Pitt.

8/ Check out the coffee station.
Score -1 if the coffee looks and smells like asphalt sealer.
Score -2 if the cream isn’t.
Score +1 if there is a cappuccino machine.
Score +2 if the cappuccino is served by Brad Pitt.

9/ Look at the airplanes used for flight training.
Score -5 for each one that smells of dope, exhaust, burning oil and leaking gasoline.
Score +5 for each one that can be flown by someone less than five feet tall wearing a skirt.

10/ Finally.
Score -5 for each father at the airport who left his children at home.
Score +5 if the airport has a free pre-school nursery for aviators.


TOTAL SCORE
0 to +5: Genderizing in progress.
+6 to +10: Welcome to the twenty-first century.
+11 to +20: The club/school manager must be a female.
More than +20: You missed the airport and are in a woman’s health spa.
0 to -5: the manager is male but his mother did a good job enlightening him.
-6 to -10: Welcome back to the 1950s.
-11 to -20: You stumbled into Red Green’s Possum Lodge.
More than -20: Rename the airport after King Henry VIII.
 
Whoa way to much work!

However my airport ranks at the very top of the list, Why?

- We have airplanes at our airport
-We have male and female pilots, students and airplane owners.
- We had a female CFII but she left to fly for a regional.
-We're friendly to everyone.
-The women who fly at our airport don't care whats on someones license plate.
-The women who fly at our airport want to be treated like pilots, just pilots not a subcategory of pilots.
-Female student fly the same aircraft use the same CFIs and pay the same hourly rate as male students. The FBO does however have different bathrooms for the women pilots.
- I've never seen a pregnant handicapped pilot at our field but I'm sure if we did they would get a great parking spot.
-Pilots at my field give you respect based on what kind of student or pilot you are not weather you have XY chromosomes or XX.
 
flygirl34q said:
7/ Who is working behind the flight desk?
Score -5 if the dispatcher is wearing a low-cut, red T-shirt that reads "Remove before flight."
Score +10 if the smiling person behind the desk looks like Brad Pitt.
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What if this is a yes for both questions?
 
On second thought, if ya'll are about women's equality, that entire survey should be thrown out. Looks like reverse genderism to me.
 
Good grief!

My airport is populated by people who are in love with and enjoy the romance of aviation (vs. seeing aircraft as transportation and aviation as industry).
Most of the "locals" are male, of WW2 vintage; but, women are slightly over-represented compared to the national average.
There are no assigned parking spots, there is no need... almost everyone is handicapped! (see above re locals)

We cater only to those who are as enchanted by flight as we are - and are willing to do whatever it takes maintain our connection to aviation.
If that doesn't describe you, you needn't bother with our little slice of heaven.
 
flygirl34q said:
In the interest of moving recreational aviation into the twenty-first century, here is a score sheet for rating your local airport on its attractiveness to females.
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I didn't see any questions about ferns.
flygirl34q said:
Pretend you are a woman on her first visit to the flying school/club.
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No can do. But that does remind me of a couple of jokes.

flygirl34q said:
You are on a mission to find out if aviation is for you.
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Then "attractiveness" should have nothing to do with it. Do the owners/employees/CFIs/MX and line personnel treat you with professionalism and respect and do they have well maintained airplanes? Score 1 for Yes, and 0 for No. If total score is >= 1, then I'd say you have picked a good starting point.
 
flygirl34q said:
In the interest of moving recreational aviation into the twenty-first century, here is a score sheet for rating your local airport on its attractiveness to females. Pretend you are a woman on her first visit to the flying school/club. You are on a mission to find out if aviation is for you.

1/ Drive into the parking lot. How many spaces are reserved for pregnant women and the handicapped?
Score +5 for each one.
Score -5 for each space in the front row reserved for the manager and/or CFI.

2/ How many cars in the lot display macho personalized licence plates such as "AV8R," "TALDRAGR" or "MILEHIGH"?
Score -1 for each.
Score +1 for every "MOMSTAXI."

3-A/ Open the door to the flying club lounge or flying school office. Everyone in the room turns to see who is walking in. If they know you, do they say "Hi" or some other greeting?
Score +1 for each yes.
Score -1 for every no.
3-B/ Watch the same people when a stranger walks in. They look, then what do they do?
Score +1 for each friendly greeting to the stranger.
Score -1 for every aviator in the room who turns back to what they were doing without saying anything.
3-C/ Now watch if a strange woman comes through the door. Note: You may have to wait awhile.
Score -5 for each man who stares at her without saying anything.
Score +5 for each person who immediately says, "Hi, welcome to the our flying school!"

4/ Look at the bulletin board.
Score -10 for each notice that says:
"Wanted: Woman with airplane. Must like flight planning, navigating and polishing aluminum. Preference given to applicants with aircraft maintenance engineer licence and/or instrument rating. Send picture of airplane."
Score +10 for each notice declaring, "Bondar for Minister of Transport"

5/ How about the magazine table?
Score +1 for each woman’s publication.
Score +5 for each woman’s aviation magazine.
Score -1 for each aviation magazine dated from the last century.
Score -5 for each woman’s wrestling publication.

6/ Now go to the washroom.
Score +1 if there is a separate lady’s washroom.
Score +2 if it is cleaner than the men’s and stocked with toilet paper and paper towels.
Score +3 if the toilet seat is down.
Score -1 if the toilet paper feels like a Trade-a-plane.
Score -2 if the toilet paper is a Trade-a-plane.
Score -3 if there is a peephole in the wall between the men’s and ladies’ washroom.

7/ Who is working behind the flight desk?
Score -5 if the dispatcher is wearing a low-cut, red T-shirt that reads "Remove before flight."
Score -10 if the dispatcher above asks the female stranger if she’s looking for a date.
Score +5 if there is a smiling person behind the desk who is knowledgeable and interested in the strange women’s questions.
Score +10 if the smiling person behind the desk looks like Brad Pitt.

8/ Check out the coffee station.
Score -1 if the coffee looks and smells like asphalt sealer.
Score -2 if the cream isn’t.
Score +1 if there is a cappuccino machine.
Score +2 if the cappuccino is served by Brad Pitt.

9/ Look at the airplanes used for flight training.
Score -5 for each one that smells of dope, exhaust, burning oil and leaking gasoline.
Score +5 for each one that can be flown by someone less than five feet tall wearing a skirt.

10/ Finally.
Score -5 for each father at the airport who left his children at home.
Score +5 if the airport has a free pre-school nursery for aviators.


TOTAL SCORE
0 to +5: Genderizing in progress.
+6 to +10: Welcome to the twenty-first century.
+11 to +20: The club/school manager must be a female.
More than +20: You missed the airport and are in a woman’s health spa.
0 to -5: the manager is male but his mother did a good job enlightening him.
-6 to -10: Welcome back to the 1950s.
-11 to -20: You stumbled into Red Green’s Possum Lodge.
More than -20: Rename the airport after King Henry VIII.
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Good grief ma'am.. You have watched ONE too many Phil Donahue shows.. Your survey is about as sexist as I have ever seen.... And you people want equal rights .:dunno::dunno::D

:rolleyes: Ben.
 
Good grief, our EAA Chapter President is female my airplane partner is female. Just damn. :dunno:
 
My last couple of times in the FBO there have been at least as many women either taking lessons or enquiring about lessons as men doing the same.
 
Nobody goes into the local FBO......Two brokedown airplanes that havent moved in 5 years and an old dog. Its a lonely place.....Perhaps if we had a few women in red T-shirts that sai ...........................Oh, what were we talking about again?
 
KFOK (King Henry VIII) is 90% banner towers, gliders, Gulfstream, Bombardier and Falcon. 98% of the fems are in the Cafe, FBOs and corp flight attendants. The town of Westhampton Beach is another story. :thumbsup:
 
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Well, soon political correctness will be overwhelming FBOs across the nation. It will not be too long before you are going to have to take and pass such a test, just to take a leak at an FBO.

By political correctness I mean all spoken words, all glances, all thoughts, all actions, must meet the approval of any female who might be within visual or hearing range.

Urinals will have to be removed from all restrooms, less a woman accidentally goes into a mens restroom and might be offended. Men will be required to sit when they pee less they dribble on the floor, again, possibly offending a woman.

Model airplanes that hang from some FBO ceilings that have anything that might be construed as offensive to woman, art or names, on them, will have to be removed or the offensive images painted over.

Uniforms or stringent dress codes will be required of all personnel employed by an FBO. The uniforms or dress code will of course have to be approved by a committee of women, or I guess some men who are trying to get laid or are just afraid em, you know, sellouts and wimps.

Our only hope for sanity at airports will be establishing airports for women only. Gender specific FBOs will not work simply because, like the urinal in the restrooms, a female might inadvertently wander in to one. Or if the mens FBO is in visual or audible range of the womans FBO, they might find it offensive that men seem to be enjoying themselves too much.

I think we're doomed. We never should have given them the right to vote. Our great grandpappys screwed us big time.

Political correctness and zero tolerance. I seem to have strong feelings against both for some reason or other. I will refrain from expressing why I think that is, I might offend someone, or I gotta get ready for work now.

John
 
+32 and looking for new customers, come on over.

(Hooray for a subscription to "Women in Aviation")
 
I have never seen another woman get into an airplane (as a pilot) at my airport until recently, and even then it was two young girls just starting their training at my flight school. I rarely hear women on the radios on my CTAF (just one helicopter woman and not every time I fly either).

Even so, with all of this, I am ALWAYS treated as a pilot. Whether it be another pilot at the airport asking how my flight was and then we talk "pilot talk" - or whether it be another pilot at the gas pump telling me how the pumps are broken (again) and how I should switch my pump on and off really fast or whatever.

I even one day walked all the way out to the end of the runway since I'd been doing landings all night and saw an "obstruction" on the runway (a large, duct tape roll sized roll of masking tape). On my way to the runway, a pilot was filling his plane up with gas. I asked him if the obstruction had given him any trouble, or if he had seen it, since he was in a tail dragger and landed right behind me a few times. He said "no" and I said "oh well, I don't want anyone to get hurt, I'm going to go over there and get it off the runway to be safe". He taxi'd his plane back to his hangar, got in his car, drove all the way to the runway, and offered me a ride back to my car. I actually said "no" but hey it was the thought that counted.

So - I have been very pleasantly surprised at the niceness even though women pilots are "rare" at my airport.

Kimberly
 
flygirl34q said:
Isn't it great how it's possible to just throw something out there like this and get so many insightful responses??!! I love the interwebs!
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It's incredible. Seems like everyone with a keyboard is hard-wired to the "I'm outraged" or the "you're being dumb/unreasonable" position.
I thought your post was sort of funny, and I enjoyed it. You know what? If there were a truly female-oriented airport out there, it would never be able to stay predominately female for long, because female pilots are a rarity and therefore interesting to the rest of us boring dudes. We'd flock to visit.
Personally, I'd bring my girlfriend there as often as possible in the hopes that some of you women pilot types would inspire her to start flying.
 
:yeahthat:

:rolleyes:

:D

Good luck with inspiring your GF to fly. It took 10 years before my husband was finally interested enough to get with the program! :dunno:
 
flygirl34q said:
In the interest of moving recreational aviation into the twenty-first century, here is a score sheet for rating your local airport on its attractiveness to females. Pretend you are a woman on her first visit to the flying school/club. You are on a mission to find out if aviation is for you.

1/ Drive into the parking lot. How many spaces are reserved for pregnant women and the handicapped?
Score +5 for each one.
Score -5 for each space in the front row reserved for the manager and/or CFI.
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Parking lot? Reserved spaces? It's pretty much "leave your car in some random spot on the ramp"


2/ How many cars in the lot display macho personalized licence plates such as "AV8R," "TALDRAGR" or "MILEHIGH"?
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Score -1 for each.
Score +1 for every "MOMSTAXI."
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heckifiknow

3-C/ Now watch if a strange woman comes through the door. Note: You may have to wait awhile.
Score -5 for each man who stares at her without saying anything.
Score +5 for each person who immediately says, "Hi, welcome to the our flying school!"
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Define "strange"...



5/ How about the magazine table?
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Score +1 for each woman’s publication.
Score +5 for each woman’s aviation magazine.
Score -1 for each aviation magazine dated from the last century.
Score -5 for each woman’s wrestling publication.
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Magazine table?



6/ Now go to the washroom.
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Score +1 if there is a separate lady’s washroom.
Score +2 if it is cleaner than the men’s and stocked with toilet paper and paper towels.
Score +3 if the toilet seat is down.
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I would worry about getting busted for that sort of thing...

"Honest Officer, I was just going in to put the seats down"



7/ Who is working behind the flight desk?
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Score -5 if the dispatcher is wearing a low-cut, red T-shirt that reads "Remove before flight."
Score -10 if the dispatcher above asks the female stranger if she’s looking for a date.
Score +5 if there is a smiling person behind the desk who is knowledgeable and interested in the strange women’s questions.
Score +10 if the smiling person behind the desk looks like Brad Pitt.
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The flight desk / line person is a nice young lady, but doesn't seem to be the low-cut, red T-shirt that reads "Remove before flight." type.

Who is Brad Pitt?


9/ Look at the airplanes used for flight training.
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Score -5 for each one that smells of dope, exhaust, burning oil and leaking gasoline.
Score +5 for each one that can be flown by someone less than five feet tall wearing a skirt.
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oops.



-11 to -20: You stumbled into Red Green’s Possum Lodge.
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Cool!!!!


More than -20: Rename the airport after King Henry VIII.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsCeVdCDqjE
 
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OK, I've got a serious question here. Why is it that political correctness must meet the standards of that of a woman, a sellout....or a wimp?

What about the standards of guys, why can't what we approve of be politically correct? Myself, I like the toilet seat to be kept in the up position. I love the smell of engines and gasoline.

I do not care what a mans age is, two years old, or ninety years old, a woman in her child bearing years is going to get their attention, even if it is just a quick glance. If one is in the area, all men will be aware of it. If said female meets all the specifications of the males around, it will be a whole lot more than a quick glance.

If that is so darn wrong, why do woman dress like they are out trolling for mens attention?

Who the heck set all these male bashing standards anyway?

I think the whole thing must be changed now, today. The things men like should be what the standards are based on. We need FBOs that have model planes hanging from the ceiling, posters of very hot chicks around airplanes, perhaps a partially disassembled engine in the corner.

Why should the boating industry have all the hot chick posters anyway, why don't we have them?

It's time for men to take back America, and our FBOs.

John
 
John,

I agree, but I guess it was a "Man's World" for so long that today's society deems it necessary to have the pendulum swing the other way for a while.

I would like to see more women in aviation, as I think it would make all our spouses/GF's more comfortable around airports and airplanes. Maybe it would make some FBO's frendlier also, because some of the ones I have been in need to have an attitude adjustment.
 
Anthony said:
John,

I agree, but I guess it was a "Man's World" for so long that today's society deems it necessary to have the pendulum swing the other way for a while.

I would like to see more women in aviation, as I think it would make all our spouses/GF's more comfortable around airports and airplanes. Maybe it would make some FBO's frendlier also, because some of the ones I have been in need to have an attitude adjustment.
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Yeah, but if there were more women at the airport the spouses/GFs would be less comfy with YOU hanging out there.
 
On the list of potential targets, female pilots generally rate down there with female engineering students.
 
Sac Arrow said:
On the list of potential targets, female pilots generally rate down there with female engineering students.
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"Down" means "lower rating". So female pilots and female engineers rate lowest? Who is highest on the list of potential targets? Super models, ballerinas, and . . . um, strippers?

Kimberly
 
Sac Arrow said:
On the list of potential targets, female pilots generally rate down there with female engineering students.
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Personally, I'd rank neither group to be "down there". In fact, some of my favorite females are in one or the other category.... along with most other categories you can think of.
 
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