hot hot hot

[woodstock]

I think this is the hottest summer in quite a few years. can't wait for fall. can't wait for Friday, when I take off for NZ where it's currently late winter - highs of low 60s in Auckland and low 50s in Christchurch. jeans and sweatshirt weather.

anyone else looking forward to jeans and sweatshirts again?

 

[AdamZ]

And slush and ice and shoveling my drive way and ice damns on my roof and idiot drivers who can't drive in the snow and numb fingers from preflighting outside, and gray skies and 4:30 pm sunsets NO THANKS I do look forward to skiining though

 

[Dave Siciliano]

Beth:

Here in Dallas it was over 100 yesterday and humid. At the end of each Summer, I'm ready for Fall and at the end of each Winter, I'm really ready for Spring. At this time of year in Dallas, I always think of why General Sherman didn't go west of the Mississippi in his march to the sea. Without airconditioning, there sure would be fewer of us in Dallas.

Have a great trip to NZ. You sure are a world class traveler!!

Best,

Dave

 

[Let'sgoflying!]

not all of Texas is a sauna or a ceramics kiln; come to the Mountains of West Texas!
The Fifth Season is in full swing here, welcome afternoon rains drop the T to 70F!

 

[John J]

Been hot hear near the Chesapeake Bay 90-96 heat indexes up over 100 visability maybe 3-4 miles. Yuk. I do look forward to early fall but not the winters of pre heat and cold icy ramps. Look forward to the spring when all the migratory birds head north.

John

 

[Ghery]

Auckland and Christchurch. Both interesting and enjoyable cities. Had the please of visiting both 3 years ago. I'd rather be going there (in spite of the long ride to get there) than where I'll be in two weeks - Tokyo. Or October - Cape Town. Have fun!

 

[EHITCH]

Elizabeth,

Are you going to the 99s conference? Say hi to all my buddies from Chicago Area Chapter!
Elizabeth Hitchcock

 

[Tim]

HOT & SMOKEY here! The smoke is starting to break right now after 3 days of

3 mi or less Vis.

 

[wsuffa]

I'm ready for fall. And I'm more than ready for a change of scenery.

Have a great trip. It's a beautiful country.

 

[woodstock]

Auckland and Christchurch. Both interesting and enjoyable cities. Had the please of visiting both 3 years ago. I'd rather be going there (in spite of the long ride to get there) than where I'll be in two weeks - Tokyo. Or October - Cape Town. Have fun!

Both of those places sound really interesting and I hear Cape Town is beautiful. enjoy!!

 

[woodstock]

I'm ready for fall. And I'm more than ready for a change of scenery.

Have a great trip. It's a beautiful country.

thanks! and to even be able to SEE the scenery would be nice. it was awful up there today...

 

[woodstock]

Elizabeth,

Are you going to the 99s conference? Say hi to all my buddies from Chicago Area Chapter!
Elizabeth Hitchcock

yippers! will do!!

 

[woodstock]

Been hot hear near the Chesapeake Bay 90-96 heat indexes up over 100 visability maybe 3-4 miles. Yuk. I do look forward to early fall but not the winters of pre heat and cold icy ramps. Look forward to the spring when all the migratory birds head north.

John

spring and fall. and the tail bits of summer and winter. the extremes - blah!

 

[woodstock]

Beth:

Here in Dallas it was over 100 yesterday and humid. At the end of each Summer, I'm ready for Fall and at the end of each Winter, I'm really ready for Spring. At this time of year in Dallas, I always think of why General Sherman didn't go west of the Mississippi in his march to the sea. Without airconditioning, there sure would be fewer of us in Dallas.

Have a great trip to NZ. You sure are a world class traveler!!

Best,

Dave

ain't nuttin' compared to some of my friends. a few of my friends are on the go constantly - then again they live in Germany where it's really easy to see the more exotic stuff. I'm am amateur compared to that.

true dat on the AC!

 

[fgcason]

anyone else looking forward to jeans and sweatshirts again?

Bring it on!

It's currently 57F here. The high today somehow managed to not get over 60F. Very pleasant compared to recently.

I can't wait to break out the chamois cloth shirts and assorted fleece.

 

[astanley]

I think this is the hottest summer in quite a few years. can't wait for fall. can't wait for Friday, when I take off for NZ where it's currently late winter - highs of low 60s in Auckland and low 50s in Christchurch. jeans and sweatshirt weather.

anyone else looking forward to jeans and sweatshirts again?

I was sitting in traffic, as a part of a funeral procession on Saturday. I was on the motorcycle in full gear (Vanson textile gear head to toe, full face helmet, Vanson deerskin gloves, and engineer boots), sitting on Rt 3 south just before the lane drop (everyone who has gone to Cape Cod from Boston knows the lunancy that is the Hingham lane drop).

The on bike thermometer, which reads out road surface temp (small wand on the very front chin of the bike) read out 130F. My guess is that the air temp was in the extremely high 90's, and we were on superhot blacktop in three lanes of stalled traffic. It was even hard to breathe normally (exhaust + ozone + heat = ugh).

I drank about 3.5 gallons of water (4 CamelBaks) during the day, in addition to 2 liters of gatorade / Gu2O.

I've never been so hot in my life. Ever.

I'll admit, it was the first time I looked forward to the 55F mornings that top the day out at 72F in late indian summer...

Cheers,

-Andrew

 

[woodstock]

I was sitting in traffic, as a part of a funeral procession on Saturday. I was on the motorcycle in full gear (Vanson textile gear head to toe, full face helmet, Vanson deerskin gloves, and engineer boots), sitting on Rt 3 south just before the lane drop (everyone who has gone to Cape Cod from Boston knows the lunancy that is the Hingham lane drop).

The on bike thermometer, which reads out road surface temp (small wand on the very front chin of the bike) read out 130F. My guess is that the air temp was in the extremely high 90's, and we were on superhot blacktop in three lanes of stalled traffic. It was even hard to breathe normally (exhaust + ozone + heat = ugh).

I drank about 3.5 gallons of water (4 CamelBaks) during the day, in addition to 2 liters of gatorade / Gu2O.

I've never been so hot in my life. Ever.

I'll admit, it was the first time I looked forward to the 55F mornings that top the day out at 72F in late indian summer...

Cheers,

-Andrew

ooooooooooooooo, you have to be really careful about that - that's almost too much water. a police officer in DC just died last week, he was training for bike patrol, they did a 12 mile ride and he drank 3 gallons of water (it was bloody hot last week). he died - can't remember the term... hyponeuria? I'll look it up. too much water.

edit:

Doctors believe McBride's death was caused by hyponatremia, a sodium imbalance caused by drinking excessive amounts of liquid. He collapsed after drinking as much as three gallons of water during a 12-mile training ride, part of a weeklong course to prepare for bike patrol.

 

[Anthony]

Its got to be Global Warming. Stop burning ALL fossil fuels NOW! Climate changes like the Ice Age, etc, were just anamolies. Natural climate cycles can't compare to what us humans can do to this planet.

And adopt socialism, alternative lifestyles and wear tie die t-shirts and Birkenstocks just because it makes sense considering the above.

 

[astanley]

ooooooooooooooo, you have to be really careful about that - that's almost too much water. a police officer in DC just died last week, he was training for bike patrol, they did a 12 mile ride and he drank 3 gallons of water (it was bloody hot last week). he died - can't remember the term... hyponeuria? I'll look it up. too much water.

Hyponatremia - I'm extremely cognizant of it. The liters of Gu2O were overmixed to compensate, and I carry salt tabs in my pack (picked up this habit mountain biking, since I tend to drink a lot of water). I also ate a very salty snack before the funeral (group stopped at Dunkin Donuts to be marshalled across the Sagamore Bridge).

12 miles and 3 gallons of water? He must have been extremely out of shape. I barely touch 24oz of water in my daily 10 miler. (I'm about 60# above ideal, down to 265 from 285 in 1.5 months alone)

Cheers,

-Andrew

 

[astanley]

Its got to be Global Warming. Stop burning ALL fossil fuels NOW! Climate changes like the Ice Age, etc, were just anamolies. Natural climate cycles can't compare to what us humans can do to this planet.

And adopt socialism, alternative lifestyles and wear die t-shirts and Birkenstocks just because it makes sense considering the above.

I gotta say this Anthony... I don't think it's normal (natural climate changed be damned) for many miles of Massachusetts to be above 110F at the surface (i.e. roads). 90F, or even the occasional 100F, but all that blacktop + heated gasses being vented is doing something.

Cheers,

-Andrew

 

[Anthony]

I gotta say this Anthony... I don't think it's normal (natural climate changed be damned) for many miles of Massachusetts to be above 110F at the surface (i.e. roads). 90F, or even the occasional 100F, but all that blacktop + heated gasses being vented is doing something.

Cheers,

-Andrew

Who are we to say what is normal for a planet this old and with so many changes over millions of years. Hoiw long have we been here to monitor the climate?

 

[astanley]

Who are we to say what is normal for a planet this old and with so many changes over millions of years. Hoiw long have we been here to monitor the climate?

*sigh* Heat retention, reflection, and dispersement. If I replace like-with-like (black rock with asphalt) there should be no major change. If I replace trees / grassland / dirt with asphalt, there will be a change in the temperature in the area surrounding the roads. Mix in vehicles dumping out gas at temperatures two to three times the ambient air temp, and you are going to cause some local changes. The air temp on the road would not have been in excess of 110F if there wasn't a fleet of cars dumping hot gasses and black pavement absorbing and releasing massive amounts of heat picked up from the sun.

Does this cause the hole in the ozone layer? Does it cause year-to-year warming trends? I don't know and I'm not entirely sure and I'm not going to debate it.

What I do know is that we affect things locally and temporarially such that they do change the course of local, short term events.

Cheers,

-Andrew

 

[Anthony]

*sigh* Heat retention, reflection, and dispersement. If I replace like-with-like (black rock with asphalt) there should be no major change. If I replace trees / grassland / dirt with asphalt, there will be a change in the temperature in the area surrounding the roads. Mix in vehicles dumping out gas at temperatures two to three times the ambient air temp, and you are going to cause some local changes. The air temp on the road would not have been in excess of 110F if there wasn't a fleet of cars dumping hot gasses and black pavement absorbing and releasing massive amounts of heat picked up from the sun.

Does this cause the hole in the ozone layer? Does it cause year-to-year warming trends? I don't know and I'm not entirely sure and I'm not going to debate it.

What I do know is that we affect things locally and temporarially such that they do change the course of local, short term events.

Cheers,

-Andrew

Well "sigh" right back. Sure cities are slightly warmer due to concrete and asphalt. How much of the earth is covered by this material as a percentage? I'll answer that for you. Not much. You can't put asphalt over ocean and if you look at the extremely large amount of land mass that is untouched, its truly insignificant. Sorry your theory is wrong.

 

[astanley]

Well "sigh" right back. Sure cities are slightly warmer due to concrete and asphalt. How much of the earth is covered by this material as a percentage? I'll answer that for you. Not much. You can't put asphalt over ocean and if you look at the extremely large amount of land mass that is untouched, its truly insignificant. Sorry your theory is wrong.

Anthony, if you read closley, I'm not talking about the larger changes our world is undergoing - I'm merely pointing out that the extreme heat that many locally see is probably caused by a number of reasons, of which man made development is part of it.

Does this cause the hole in the ozone layer? Does it cause year-to-year warming trends? I don't know and I'm not entirely sure and I'm not going to debate it.

What I do know is that we affect things locally and temporarially such that they do change the course of local, short term events.

Urban, developed areas get hotter and change the local environment at an accelerated rate due to development. That's all I'm sayin' man. We are changing microclimates on a small scale. These microclimates may have an additive effect, they may not.

The whole global warming thing is way tooo big a nut to crack and I'm not going to try it. All theories have their flaws on that one, as you know.

Cheers,

-Andrew

 

[AdamZ]

Anthony: Yesterday I used my BBQ to make an awesome rotisserie chicken. After I was done I left the grill on to burn off the goo left on the grate. I ate and forgot I left the grill on. It was on for several hours. I am very very sorry! I take full responsibility for this weekends heat wave and any discomfort I may have caused you.

 

[Toby]

Anthony: Yesterday I used my BBQ to make an awesome rotisserie chicken. After I was done I left the grill on to burn off the goo left on the grate. I ate and forgot I left the grill on. It was on for several hours. I am very very sorry! I take full responsibility for this weekends heat wave and any discomfort I may have caused you.

Adam, your grill didn't affect Colorado -- the wind was blowing the other way! Towards me!! SSW. Geez, I wondered who was responsible for yesterday's extremely hot weather at the Antique Airplanes picnic in Bayport. Well, now I know. Thank you very much. ;-)

 

[Dave Krall CFII]

I think this is the hottest summer in quite a few years. can't wait for fall. can't wait for Friday, when I take off for NZ where it's currently late winter - highs of low 60s in Auckland and low 50s in Christchurch. jeans and sweatshirt weather.

anyone else looking forward to jeans and sweatshirts again?

Have a great trip... How's the PPL coming ? Gonna fly in NZ ?

 

[woodstock]

Have a great trip... How's the PPL coming ? Gonna fly in NZ ?

thanks!

moving right along. have flown at least once a week since I saw you in Seattle. always improving, although I do have some crunchers still.

 

[Anthony]

Anthony, if you read closley, I'm not talking about the larger changes our world is undergoing - I'm merely pointing out that the extreme heat that many locally see is probably caused by a number of reasons, of which man made development is part of it.

Urban, developed areas get hotter and change the local environment at an accelerated rate due to development. That's all I'm sayin' man. We are changing microclimates on a small scale. These microclimates may have an additive effect, they may not.

The whole global warming thing is way tooo big a nut to crack and I'm not going to try it. All theories have their flaws on that one, as you know.

Cheers,

-Andrew

Andrew, I understand what you are saying. I really think its arrogant of us to think we can effect micro climates, even regionally. As you know, the weather just doesn't form up over Boston. I don't think the small areas we populate can create a change in the weather even locally. Just because it hit a high temp in your area doesn't mean it was caused by us. You could wipe humanity and our creations off the earth and you'd still have climate changes, as seen in previous extremes before we were here.

I don't mean to be argumentative, but some of these theories are being erroneously used as excuses for less productivity, higher taxes, fewer choices in life and more regulations.

 

[astanley]

Andrew, I understand what you are saying. I really think its arrogant of us to think we can effect micro climates, even regionally. As you know, the weather just doesn't form up over Boston. I don't think the small areas we populate can create a change in the weather even locally. Just because it hit a high temp in your area doesn't mean it was caused by us. You could wipe humanity and our creations off the earth and you'd still have climate changes, as seen in previous extremes before we were here.

I agree. There is evidence on both sides of the aisle, it (of course) is convienent for me to go on about the theories I'm going on about. Of course, they are all still theories.

I don't mean to be argumentative, but some of these theories are being erroneously used as excuses for less productivity, higher taxes, fewer choices in life and more regulations.

Here is where I agree 100%. Lots of junk science on both sides of the debate fed by well funded groups. And lots of BS legislation subsequent.

Cheers,

-Andrew

 

[Anthony]

IHere is where I agree 100%. Lots of junk science on both sides of the debate fed by well funded groups. And lots of BS legislation subsequent.

Yes, absolutley agree. They just don't know what is happening. That's why I'm glad we didn't sign Kyoto. And I am an advocate of cleaner air and water, but not to the extreme that becomes ridiculous/impossible.

 

[AdamZ]

I really think its arrogant of us to think we can effect micro climates, even regionally. As you know, the weather just doesn't form up over Boston. I don't think the small areas we populate can create a change in the weather even locally. .

Whew! So then it wasn't my BBQ

 

[astanley]

Whew! So then it wasn't my BBQ

Adam... total thread hijack here... but it's a grill. Barbecue is a verb or an adjective, even an adverb, but never EVER A noun.

Grilling:

Barbecue:

I'll gladly demostrate the difference sometime, if you'd like

Cheers,

-Andrew
member, Society for the Preservation of True Southern Barbecue

 

[Anthony]

Whew! So then it wasn't my BBQ

Adam. Don't be so sure. Many years ago when we lived in Lancaster, we had a townhouse. My neighbor would cook some version of the fatiest Polish sausage known to mankind on the grill. As his deck was right next to mine (attached) the smoke coming off that grill changed my climate and mood significantly. That one guy should sign Kyoto!

Andrew. That looks TOO good. Oh man....

 

[AdamZ]

Oh my! Andrew that looks awesome!!! Yes I know the difference between a grill and to BBQ. I should have known better! Oh that looks soooo good! Does it have the pink smoke ring?

 

[astanley]

Oh my! Andrew that looks awesome!!! Yes I know the difference between a grill and to BBQ. I should have known better! Oh that looks soooo good! Does it have the pink smoke ring?

Most always, yes. I did up a couple of butts a few weeks ago, for a 3PM dinner, which went on the smoker about 1AM. Around 6, when the bourbon wore off and the sun was in my eyes, I got REALLY hungry. Threw some breakfast sausages (raw) on the smoker, let 'em cook, fried a couple eggs and woke Jessie up. Later, had some of the bark (essentially, cooked and reduced fat) and was in heaven.

One item of note, I only eat like this when the smoker is going. For whatever reason, the smoker brings out the worst in my dietary control...

Here are some grill shots (yes, grill) from a month or so ago. Pork chops with a mild rub and a cherry-vinegar glaze, just amazing. Served with Mothers Lager, from Magic Hat (a growler, no less) and some of my 4 year old Mead, which I put to bed (in the bottles) in late 2001. Spent a year fermenting, made with Clarksburg Farm Honey (most amazing honey you will ever eat, trust me)


Cheers,

-Andrew

 

[astanley]

Adam. Don't be so sure. Many years ago when we lived in Lancaster, we had a townhouse. My neighbor would cook some version of the fatiest Polish sausage known to mankind on the grill. As his deck was right next to mine (attached) the smoke coming off that grill changed my climate and mood significantly. That one guy should sign Kyoto!

Andrew. That looks TOO good. Oh man....

Find me some local, good Colorado grass-fed beef and I'll ship it back to you as BBQ!

I'm not sure if I've asked this before... but what is a good place to get GOOD food in Philly? Not highbrow, but just local chow that moves best with a Yuengling?

Cheers,

-Andrew

 

[woodstock]

Most always, yes. I did up a couple of butts a few weeks ago, for a 3PM dinner, which went on the smoker about 1AM. Around 6, when the bourbon wore off and the sun was in my eyes, I got REALLY hungry. Threw some breakfast sausages (raw) on the smoker, let 'em cook, fried a couple eggs and woke Jessie up. Later, had some of the bark (essentially, cooked and reduced fat) and was in heaven.

One item of note, I only eat like this when the smoker is going. For whatever reason, the smoker brings out the worst in my dietary control...

Here are some grill shots (yes, grill) from a month or so ago. Pork chops with a mild rub and a cherry-vinegar glaze, just amazing. Served with Mothers Lager, from Magic Hat (a growler, no less) and some of my 4 year old Mead, which I put to bed (in the bottles) in late 2001. Spent a year fermenting, made with Clarksburg Farm Honey (most amazing honey you will ever eat, trust me)


Cheers,

-Andrew

I think I want you to cook for me. did you ever want to be a chef?

 

[Skip Miller]

Adam... total thread hijack here... but it's a grill. Barbecue is a verb or an adjective, even an adverb, but never EVER A noun.

-Andrew
member, Society for the Preservation of True Southern Barbecue

From dictionary.com:

barbeque

n 1: meat that has been barbecued or grilled in a highly seasoned sauce [syn: barbecue] 2: a cookout in which food is cooked over an open fire; especially a whole animal carcass roasted on a spit [syn: barbecue] 3: a rack to hold meat for cooking over hot charcoal usually out of doors [syn: barbecue]

IOW, It is a noun, never a verb or an adjective, or an adverb.

This clearly shows the difference between the damn Yankee elite inside the beltway food snobs including those imposter Yankees to the north and east of there.

I have lived most of my life up here and good barbeque has not been available. I became a believer when I was in South Carolina and several surrounding states courtesy of Uncle Sam. I am intrigued, but not yet ready to venture forth to sample, by tales of true barbeque now available in New York City. Can't be... not yet!

Let's send Eamon out to try it. Like Mikey, he'll eat anything!

-Skip

 

[astanley]

I think I want you to cook for me. did you ever want to be a chef?

My father is a chef, I grew up in his kitchen. Worked there for years to make extra money, from when I was 9 (scooping butter, peanut butter, filling up 200 pans with popover batter) through college ("special events" sous chef a few times, my brother hasn't even hit that level yet ). I have some great stories about 50 gallons of gumbo destroyed when a fire alarm went off accidentally and making 200 gallons of hollendaise for a special event. Or, even better, baking 1200 pies for my dad's yearly Thanksgiving pie drive. Holy **** I can bake pies in my sleep, ask me how I know...

I'd gladly cook for for you Elizabeth, it's 100x more fun than work!

Cheers,

-Andrew