Golden Age of GA

Have you seen anything from the FAA on this? The only thing I've seen is through the EAA. In principle, the ACO takes the risk which is different than with owner parts or using other guidance like AC 23-27.

No, but the A&Ps I’ve discussed this with are unequivocal in their position that it’s their signature in the logbook, therefore their certificate is at risk.

Granted, it’s a small sample size, but since it’s been around for while now and ‘PMA parts readily available or obtainable” is subjective, none have found a reason to go down the path yet for something like our 172.
 
General Aviation is not dead. General Aviation that burns 100LL outside of flight schools is dead.
My GA airport is busier than ever with Jet A burning aircraft. I guess it depends on what you call General Aviation?
 
but since it’s been around for while now and ‘PMA parts readily available or obtainable” is subjective, none have found a reason to go down the path yet for something like our 172.
Except I don't see where "its been around for a while" since there is zero FAA guidance on VARMA. But the minute they do issue that guidance I have about a dozen items I will send to them for FAA approval. The way VARMA is supposedly written, the ACO will approve the item for installation which is no different than a PMA part. But without formal guidance its no more than a wish list from the EAA. Can't see where any A&P would not install it with an FAA approval on the part?
 
While I agree with most of the points posted, I feel like not enough emphasis or blame has been placed on the FAA in regulating innovation out of existence, either by slow-playing approvals, driving up costs, layering on new "safety" requirements, or increasing operating costs (e.g. allowing landing fees, not supporting the development of hangars, supporting quasi-monopoly FBOs, targeting individual owners and maintenance shops, not supporting reform in medicals and owner maintenance, etc). The FAA sets the field upon which all of us play, and they have done an absolute @#$% job of it.
Not arguing. Can you clarify which regs have come into play since the 1970’s to make this a factor? That is, what specifically has changed in the regs since then to make this a significant factor in aviation participation?
 
Except I don't see where "its been around for a while" since there is zero FAA guidance on VARMA. But the minute they do issue that guidance I have about a dozen items I will send to them for FAA approval. The way VARMA is supposedly written, the ACO will approve the item for installation which is no different than a PMA part. But without formal guidance its no more than a wish list from the EAA. Can't see where any A&P would not install it with an FAA approval on the part?

Have you seen the Work Instruction?


EAA reports they’ve gained acceptance for a starter solenoid, alternators, and voltage regulators.


Maybe I’m misunderstanding your wuestion.
 
I did not read the whole thread so this is maybe a repeat, or now off-topic.
I think if GA is dying it must be geographic, because wherever I fly it seems like the skies are crazy busy.
I look at the adsb traffic on the displays when around all these airports and it's a beehive of activity.
I was at a class D airport in Texas today and it was 8 in line to get out, and a string-of-pearls landing lights trying to get in.
 
General Aviation is not dead. General Aviation that burns 100LL outside of flight schools is dead.
My GA airport is busier than ever with Jet A burning aircraft. I guess it depends on what you call General Aviation?
There is a very healthy avgas-burning GA community in Florida. I’m in a group that has a weekly flyout with almost always more than 50 planes showing up, and several fly-ins with well in excess of 100 aircraft. The airport restaurants seem plenty busy. The A&Ps are busy and keeping their schedules full. I see a steady flow of small planes going over in all directions every day.
 
These days a new 172 runs about 450k and, at least among folks I work with, median income runs close to 200 k so not too far off …
Having trouble aligning that one. The quote was regarding overall median income and aircraft costs between two different time periods. “Amongst who you know” is not a relevant comparative measure. The median US income is around $48,000 for all workers, $60,000 for full-time workers, and around $80,000 for households.

Affordability is pretty germane to this thread and your claim that new aircraft are only 2x the cost of the annual income of the top 12% of wage earners is not nearly the same as 2x the income of the 50th percentile. Maybe I missed some sarcasm.
 
Not arguing. Can you clarify which regs have come into play since the 1970’s to make this a factor? That is, what specifically has changed in the regs since then to make this a significant factor in aviation participation?
The problem is they don’t have to even change the regs for it to be an issue. This is the fundamental problem with the “agencies” of the federal government, they are truly judge, jury, and executioner on all their own regulations. They don’t want to keep writing field approvals for some random thing? They just won’t, even if there is no supporting legislation or regulation. They don’t reeeeally want to certify that new aircraft or engine design? Well… they just won’t. They don’t really feel like approving that new unleaded gas or expediting its review or even working together to get something done quickly even though the alternative is just to let the eco-lobby litigate GA out of existence? Well, no bother. It goes on and on and on and on and on, and yes, I am steamed about it because I have experienced their malfeasance personally. You said 70s, but all of Part 23, as an example - the entire corpus of design standards - was implemented in the late 60s, I believe, so there’s a giant rewrite of regulation if I must point to something but there’s plenty more, and in reality, it doesn’t matter because it doesn’t even have to be about actual regulations. With Chevron overturned, there is new hope for at least the judge, jury, and executioner problem, but plenty of issues still remain and it’s not like the average civilian GA pilot has the pocketbook to take on the government anyway.
 
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