Gas can truth

If you can figure out how to hot start an IO-360, you can figure out a modern gas can.

Jeez, that article is full of stupidity.
 
MAKG1 said:
If you can figure out how to hot start an IO-360, you can figure out a modern gas can.

Jeez, that article is full of stupidity.
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Oh, I know how to work them, but they are very, very slow. The old cans were definitely faster.
 
Anyone with a modicum of common sense and a couple of hand tools can modify those handles in a few minutes. I do the modifications within minutes after getting the cans home.
 
I spill far more with the new cans that I ever did with the old ones. And I still have a couple of the old ones around.

Counterproductive.
 
I'm honestly surprised nobody has had one of these cans burst. I've seem them frightening swollen on a number of occasions. They swell up on the ride from the gas station to the house in my truck bed.
 
Subsea said:
Ive been rocking the 5 gallon "utility" cans with reasonable success. They just moved the "fuel" descriptor into the product name.

http://www.amazon.com/VP-Racing-Fue...&qid=1432605927&sr=8-4&keywords=Race+fuel+can
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I bought 2 sets of 4 on eBay:http://www.ebay.com/itm/VP-Racing-4...-Jug-Gas-Can-Jerry-Can-Off-Road-/390951045143

Along with a fuel hose and a shut off valve: http://www.ebay.com/itm/VP-Racing-F...Shut-Off-Valve-Fuel-Jug-Cap-Kit-/381041921363

I initially wanted to build a gasoline trailer to fuel our plane, our airport is however supposed to get mogas later this year. For the meantime the gas cans should do just fine.

With the valve, I can insert the hose into the tank, lay the can on the wing and simply open the valve. Absolutely no mess. I did not take the time, but would guess that it takes between one and two minutes to empty 5 gals. Very fast.

I have attached a picture of this setup.

Just make sure to touch the gas can and the plane at the same time, before your put the hose into the tank, so that possibly existing static electric charges can dissipate. Also put them, for the same reason, at the filling station on the ground and don't leave them in the bed of your truck.
 

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I bought an old military one at a flea market for $5.00 Saturday. Nice, all-metal, no EPA nonsense.

Rich
 
MAKG1 said:
If you can figure out how to hot start an IO-360, you can figure out a modern gas can.

Jeez, that article is full of stupidity.
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Says the Californian.

Shepherd said:
Anyone with a modicum of common sense and a couple of hand tools can modify those handles in a few minutes. I do the modifications within minutes after getting the cans home.
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Yeah, you didn't miss the point.
 
N3368K said:
I add my own vents to new cans. I have 10 or 12. You can buy vents and replacement spouts affordable on eBay.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=gas+can+vent&_sacat=0
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I was so happy to see this that I bought a 10 pack without looking around first. I just found where someone has a 10 pack of the vents PLUS caps for the nozzle side of the can for $10.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-Y-Lids-1...208?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a9760fdc8

I guess I will buy the caps separately.

Jim
 
MAKG1 said:
If you can figure out how to hot start an IO-360, you can figure out a modern gas can.

Jeez, that article is full of stupidity.
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Figuring them out isn't the issue. The valves are cheap and poorly built. They leak and break easily, then leak more, spilling more gas. The lack of vent means they are always swelling up or contracting with temperature changes, they look like they're going to burst.

Oh and now I have to hold up 40lbs of gas in one hand while keeping the nozzle in the tank and work the valve with the other. This leads to spills.

I rarely spilled gas with the old design. The whole point of the change was to reduce gas fumes from getting into the environment. I'm pretty sure all the spills and leaks are putting more fumes in the air.

The governments mandate resulted in designs that not only are irritating to use but actually make the problem they wanted to solve worse. That's the problem.
 
Bah, use a few 15.5 gal beer kegs and a hand pump.
 
I still have two old-school gas cans. One for lawn mower gas, one for weedeater gas/oil. Maybe I should ebay them?
 
The new cans work just fine for me. I still have older ones, too. For the most part I prefer to nozzle and a Mr Funnel but I can get fuel from can into whatever needs dual with new or old cans. It ain't brain surgery.
 
In my recent score, I got about 8 old school gas cans.
 
wsuffa said:
I spill far more with the new cans that I ever did with the old ones. And I still have a couple of the old ones around.

Counterproductive.
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yup...same here. I end up removing the cap and pouring straight out. :rolleyes:
 
CT4ME said:
'Been using Tuff Jugs for a while, they're great.
http://www.tuffjug.com/
5 gallons in 45 seconds
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Those look pretty cool. Does the auto shut off really work, or is there still spilling? I've been using the JP style cans for years, but it's easy to make a mess with those. I've never used any sort of gas can with my plane though, just Jet Skis, motorcycles and portable generators.
 
I've never tried one of the new cans, but I've read a number of threads on lawnsite about them. I still have maybe 6-7 of the old-style and they're good for a few more years.

I've read a lot of complains, but one thing I've never picked up on is the root of the problem. Is it just that there are no vents? Makes me wonder why. Even on my vented cans I always drill bigger vent holes in the top so I can fuel faster.
 
I like the new cans. they don't leak and are easy to fill the mower without spilling. No complaints.
 
When I had the Stearman I used high test car gas, no ethanol, Two WW2 jerry cans , the ones with steel type hoses, well constructed and easy to use. Stand in the front seat and pour it in. I don't know what I'd use today. Even the one I use for my mower is a piece of s$&@t.
 
Jimmy cooper said:
When I had the Stearman I used high test car gas, no ethanol, Two WW2 jerry cans , the ones with steel type hoses, well constructed and easy to use. Stand in the front seat and pour it in. I don't know what I'd use today. Even the one I use for my mower is a piece of s$&@t.
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Thanks to liberals gas cans suck.
 
No, your wrong again. Gas cans suck because that's what congress deals with instead of important issues like infastructure, Medicare fraud, etc. ( or shooting their mouth off over Benghazi after ten " investigations" that turned up nada, zero, nothing. Etc. Etc.
 
Jimmy cooper said:
No, your wrong again. Gas cans suck because that's what congress deals with instead of important issues like infastructure, Medicare fraud, etc. ( or shooting their mouth off over Benghazi after ten " investigations" that turned up nada, zero, nothing. Etc. Etc.
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Who knew the EPA was part of congress? As usual, you're spot on Jimmy.
 
RJM62 said:
This one doesn't look bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UHHuVGtFGI

Rich
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I actually ordered one of these just yesterday from Amazon, after the mechanism in the nozzle of our beautiful Briggs & Stratton Obama-Can broke. We weren't even through the first load of gas.

Two other gas cans from Midwest Plastics leak, but at least still function.

When I told a lefty co-worker that I would vote Republican, just to get rid of these stupid gas can, once I become an US-citizen, he became pretty angry. He asked me whether I want his kids to drink fuel out of these old style cans and insisted that they are so great for the environment. Of course, he has never used one. :rolleyes2:

Even if somebody seriously believes that these cans make his children saver - is this reason enough to force this 'progression' upon all of us? :mad:

With all the spilled fuel, caused by leaking spouts, I find it also hard to see the advantage for the environment. :no:
 
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I'm trying to figure out how any but the youngest in the group don't have their old cans anyway. What do you people do to the poor things? I have eight.
 
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Jimmy cooper said:
No, your wrong again. Gas cans suck because that's what congress deals with instead of important issues like infastructure, Medicare fraud, etc. ( or shooting their mouth off over Benghazi after ten " investigations" that turned up nada, zero, nothing. Etc. Etc.
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You should contribute to the Clinton foundation, then try to get Hilary emails
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Best jugs I have found are the G-man 3 gallon go kart racing jugs. I put a 2 foot clear hose on the end and they are great. Fill motorcycles, airplanes, lawnmower and everything else easy. Why would anyone buy that safety crap???
 

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Geico266 said:
Thanks to liberals gas cans suck.
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Be honest. Gas cans have always sucked. If you're filling a small tank like a lawnmower, or motorcycle, it's always been tricky to not spill all over the place. In the government's attempts to reduce these spills, they have leaned on the gas can manufacturers to come up with "spill proof" designs.

I honestly think most of these designs would work pretty damn good if they were made out of proper materials and precision made, but alas, the can makers know they are selling to the cheapest bastards of the 1st world and they know that they would never spend more than $10-20 on a gas can. So their designs are made super chintzy and don't work well, or last long.

End result is, broken spouts, modified spouts, use of old gas cans, or some sort of improvisation and all the usual resulting spills. This is a classic example of how lofty environment ideals don't mesh well with practicality and the American market. It is an example of government over reach.

I personally would love to have a can that I could fill a small tank with and get no spills. I would be willing to pay a fair amount of money to get it. If it exists, I'm just not aware. Anybody know of a can that actually fills with no spills?
 
I bought a 5 gallon gas can last month from Lowes. It absolutely sucked hind teat at dispensing fuel.

So, I drilled out the stupid spout thing that had to be pushed down before it would pour, and a punched a hole in the back so it wouldn't "glug" when you poured. A little stainless steel screw goes in the hole when not in use.

Eff the 'crats.
 
denverpilot said:
$109. Have fun.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009HIMVLW
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I'm not sure how I'm supposed to have fun with that. That thing will spill gas all over the place. I didn't say I just wanted an expensive gas can. I said I wanted a gas can that I could refuel small tanks and not spill and I'm willing to pay for it. Sorry, this is not the solution I'm looking for. :no:
 
Dav8or said:
I'm not sure how I'm supposed to have fun with that. That thing will spill gas all over the place. I didn't say I just wanted an expensive gas can. I said I wanted a gas can that I could refuel small tanks and not spill and I'm willing to pay for it. Sorry, this is not the solution I'm looking for. :no:
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Haha. I don't think we can help it if you can't aim and pour stuff. :)

I can show ya how to make a funnel out of a milk jug if you like. ;)

Seriously though, a quick google search of "best gas cans" inspired by this thread turned up a number of decent alternatives to the silly CARB compliant garbage. A few were even sissy State compliant. One brand in particular came up a lot with a push button thingy on it. Apparently racing fuel containers are still not brain dead and readily available too.

Never had a problem spilling fuel in any cans, old or new, when paying attention and not in a rush.

Nothing I've ever spilled from a gas can even comes close to what the airplane did in the hangar when the bladder let loose and no one was around to see it. Pretty sure I've used up all my fuel spilling karma for a lifetime with that single event. The tank wasn't empty and there wasn't any fuel around when we found it.

Just the standard blue goo all over the side of the pilot's side door. It went somewhere. I'm sure the low-lead fuel is out there killing someone right now and every airport in the country is a potential superfund site. Oh well. Call the EPA. I'm sure they'll have some paperwork to fill out that'll kill at least an entire old growth forest to make the paper. Haha.

Meanwhile I have big funnels and old gas cans with real vents. They haven't spilled any significant quantities of fuel anywhere in the decade or two that I've had them.

That was my point in posting a NATO style can. Buy something that'll last a couple of lifetimes and just stop spilling. The use of plastic is a bigger problem than the spillage if you pay attention to what you're doing.

Every garage should have a set of various sizes of funnels.

Do people really not know how to make one out of various plastic crap that's all headed for the landfill anyway, like the milk jugs? Heck in a pinch even a cardboard box works. There will be trace amounts of fuel on them but it's better than splashing it all over the place.

There's even little "fuel stations" with hoses and nozzles like a gas station would have that have wheels and you can roll them around. Or the old standby, used on every farm... A real tank and a hose on a stand, or in an old pickup truck bed.

There's so many good options other than the little red plastic things. Plenty of workarounds that won't spill if you don't, right? :)
 
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