Flying Mag $5 year

Was a subscriber for years,don't own a jet or million dollar airplane,not much use for the mag lately.
 
Why don't people like this magazine? I really enjoy reading it. Honesty it's way better than anything AOPA puts out-- those magazines have the same 10 articles that just are reprinted with the same message each time.
 
jspilot said:
Why don't people like this magazine? I really enjoy reading it. Honesty it's way better than anything AOPA puts out-- those magazines have the same 10 articles that just are reprinted with the same message each time.
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I canceled my subscription after one of their jet-flying columnists wrote in his column negative comments about "global warming deniers". If I want politics I will turn on the news. I wrote their editor and told them I won't be renewing.

Obviously I was not the only one. :mad2:
 
It's sad. I read the mag for years, but let my subscription lapse because I never, ever, EVER saw an article about homebuilt planes of any kind, let alone RVs.

I've still not found a magazine that compares experimental avionics. Where are the reviews of the Dynons, GRT Avionics, and MGLs? Anyone know?

Calling themselves "Flying", you would think they would cover all aspects of flying. Instead, they focused their efforts on the 2% of pilots who could afford TBMs, King Airs, and Pilatuses (Pilati?), and lost their core market.
 
Jay Honeck said:
Calling themselves "Flying", you would think they would cover all aspects of flying. Instead, they focused their efforts on the 2% of pilots who could afford TBMs, King Airs, and Pilatuses (Pilati?), and lost their core market.
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It's called airplane porn for a reason.
 
I dropped it like 5 years ago. I still get notices "...your subscription is about to expire..." hoping I get scared and send them a check. It's an okay mag, just don;t have time really to read it.
 
Jay Honeck said:
It's sad. I read the mag for years, but let my subscription lapse because I never, ever, EVER saw an article about homebuilt planes of any kind, let alone RVs.

I've still not found a magazine that compares experimental avionics. Where are the reviews of the Dynons, GRT Avionics, and MGLs? Anyone know?

Calling themselves "Flying", you would think they would cover all aspects of flying. Instead, they focused their efforts on the 2% of pilots who could afford TBMs, King Airs, and Pilatuses (Pilati?), and lost their core market.
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I would expect that from EAA's magazine.
 
Datadriver said:
I canceled my subscription after one of their jet-flying columnists wrote in his column negative comments about "global warming deniers". If I want politics I will turn on the news. I wrote their editor and told them I won't be renewing.

Obviously I was not the only one. :mad2:
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Not an isolated occurrence. Car and Driver had some great writers who were all replaced a few years ago with politically correct people who were boring as hell so I never picked up another issue.
 
Speaking of print magazines, I saw a print copy of Time the other day, it was as thick as a pamphlet and had IIRC 7 advertisements, all full page, including the back cover.
Print is dead.
 
Why I would need any other magazine besides this one is beyond me.
I saw this in an FBO and couldn't believe there was a magazine dedicated to parking.

visit: http://www.parkingtoday.com/ for more details.

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Flying is the same as Playboy, pictures of things you will never get your hands on. The format seems to work.
 
Gary F said:
Not an isolated occurrence. Car and Driver had some great writers who were all replaced a few years ago with politically correct people who were boring as hell so I never picked up another issue.
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I loved Top Gear. The dumbed down U.S. version, not worth the time.
 
I went ahead and signed up, I mean five bucks?

I got a similar offer a couple of weeks ago for two years of Road & Track. I've noticed that every issue has a 7 full page advertisement for floor mats. very similar to print newspapers where you have to hold up this enormous page of ads to read the two paragraph section of a story shoe horned into the upper right corner.
 
SixPapaCharlie said:
Why I would need any other magazine besides this one is beyond me.
I saw this in an FBO and couldn't believe there was a magazine dedicated to parking...
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Wow, that is bizarre but looking over the magazine I get the feeling that there might be some wild times to be had at a Parking Industry Convention :D
 
jspilot said:
Why don't people like this magazine? I really enjoy reading it. Honesty it's way better than anything AOPA puts out-- those magazines have the same 10 articles that just are reprinted with the same message each time.
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Agreed 100%.
In my opinion just the 'Afermath' or 'Technicalities' articles by Peter Garrison are worth the price. There is no other magazine that educates me about flying to the same extent. And by the way, I love to read about Pilatuses, TBMs, King Airs or Citations though I won't be flying them.
 
Silvaire said:
Wow, that is bizarre but looking over the magazine I get the feeling that there might be some wild times to be had at a Parking Industry Convention :D
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and hopefully you get there in time to get a good parking space.
 
I got rid of Flying magazine about 10 years ago. I had too many magazines to read coming in every month. A few magazines had to go, and Flying was one of them. Besides, almost the same articles were alternating between AOPA and Flying covering the same Mooney pilot report or something.
I know I'll never fly any newer planes like Mooney's, Bonanzas, Barons and such, so why bother reading about them. The same go's with avionics articles, I never read about any of that stuff either. I fly for work, and when my Champ restoration is done, I'll fly that, those are two extreme ends of the spectrum in flying. I don't get the chance to fly anything in-between anymore, so I don't keep up with it.
I get Sport Aviation, Vintage Aircraft and AOPA and a couple of others, that's enough for me.
 
Dropped Flying a long time ago, really turned off by the multi-million dollar emphasis. Don't want it even free.

The two worst offending writers were Richard Collins and Mac McClellan. Funnily enough, they now write for Air Facts and EAA's Sport Aviation, respectively, and I enjoy them a lot. Shows how a bad environment can corrupt people.

AOPA's mag, yeah, the same articles recycled every year describes it well, and they're not well-written articles either. I switched to a digital subscription so I don't waste the paper it would otherwise be printed on.


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Jay Honeck said:
I've still not found a magazine that compares experimental avionics. Where are the reviews of the Dynons, GRT Avionics, and MGLs? Anyone know?
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I'd love to see this. I once wrote Aviation Consumer asking this and they responded to the effect they don't do experimental stuff.

Everybody ignores experimentals including EAA. Most of their articles involve certificated aircraft or a multimillion dollar warbird.

I listen to a number of aviation podcasts, many visit Oshkosh but ignore the experimental, homebuilt industry entirely. Weird.

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Huh. You'd think the Aircraft *Owners* and Pilot's Association might review stuff. Guess not.
 
I get the turbine edition of the AOPA magazine and I enjoy that because it seems to cover the piston side of GA but also give me a glimpse at the jet A side as well.

I got put off the Richard Collins when he wrote about scrapping his P210. Seems like an unforgivable sin.
 
SixPapaCharlie said:
I buy it for the articles
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I definitely buy it for the writers and their writing.
olasek said:
In my opinion just the 'Afermath' or 'Technicalities' articles by Peter Garrison are worth the price. There is no other magazine that educates me about flying to the same extent. And by the way, I love to read about Pilatuses, TBMs, King Airs or Citations though I won't be flying them.
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I preferred the previous Aftermath writer or writers whoever they were. It's taken me awhile to warm up to Peter's once occasional Aftermaths but I'm with him now.

OTOH, Peter 'Technicalities' Garrison was the original homebuilder to me before I even knew it was something that someone could do. Peter's scratch building of his Melmoth and Melmoth 2 were chronicled in Flying starting in the long ago 70s or so. I'm still reading and he's still writing.
Jay Honeck said:
It's sad. I read the mag for years, but let my subscription lapse because I never, ever, EVER saw an article about homebuilt planes of any kind, let alone RVs.

I've still not found a magazine that compares experimental avionics. Where are the reviews of the Dynons, GRT Avionics, and MGLs? Anyone know?

Calling themselves "Flying", you would think they would cover all aspects of flying. Instead, they focused their efforts on the 2% of pilots who could afford TBMs, King Airs, and Pilatuses (Pilati?), and lost their core market.
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Some may just be too young to remember Garrison's scratch building journeys but it's worth noting that I think all of his personal flying is in his second scratch built globe trotting retract gear airplane. That's the rarefied air of experimental building and flying.

These days Kitplanes is the place for experimental aircraft, engines and avionics. Good mag and getting better despite the antiquated media.
Buggsy2 said:
Dropped Flying a long time ago, really turned off by the multi-million dollar emphasis. Don't want it even free.

The two worst offending writers were Richard Collins and Mac McClellan. Funnily enough, they now write for Air Facts and EAA's Sport Aviation, respectively, and I enjoy them a lot. Shows how a bad environment can corrupt people.

AOPA's mag, yeah, the same articles recycled every year describes it well, and they're not well-written articles either. I switched to a digital subscription so I don't waste the paper it would otherwise be printed on.
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I've been reading Flying so long that I couldn't see it outliving Collins - he was Flying Magazine for this reader. I subscribe to Air Facts but don't read it regularly. Not sure why.

Mac seems a bit out of his element at Sport Aviation but he's a good writer and aviator so I think it will work out.

I'm glad to see that Flying seems energized by the fresh blood - still enjoying it here.
 
Bill Watson said:
I preferred the previous Aftermath writer or writers whoever they were. It's taken me awhile to warm up to Peter's once occasional Aftermaths but I'm with him now.
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Must have been very, very long time ago since I have been reading Aftermath for close to 15 years (if not more) and I don't remember anybody else writing this section.
 
Arrow115 said:
I get the turbine edition of the AOPA magazine and I enjoy that because it seems to cover the piston side of GA but also give me a glimpse at the jet A side as well.

I got put off the Richard Collins when he wrote about scrapping his P210. Seems like an unforgivable sin.
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I think Richard knew the condition of the airframe and scrapped it rather than having it kill someone, or even leaving them finding themselves with a worthless aircraft. I think he did the completely correct thing. These are all life limited machines, especially when you start pressurizing them. Even if it's only 3.5psi or whatever, when you measure the square inches involved, you end up with thousands of pounds of total force. I have seen the results of a failed tank test at just 1.1psi, the result is explosive and shocking.
 
I liked flying when Bax and Len Morgan wrote for it.

Mac is not a good fit for Sport Aviation. I'd like to see it be exclusively on homebuilts.
 
I just took them up on the $5 offer, and they even mail it across the pond to my UK residence included in the deal... :thumbsup:
 
I dared to click on the link to see if it is even legit and all I get is a message that the promotion has expired and a popup demanding my email address. :)
 
Gary F said:
Not an isolated occurrence. Car and Driver had some great writers who were all replaced a few years ago with politically correct people who were boring as hell so I never picked up another issue.
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Ditto Road & Track
 
Alexb2000 said:
I loved Top Gear. The dumbed down U.S. version, not worth the time.
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They do the stupidest stuff on there. Why can't they review cars, talk about new technology etc. Something meaningful and worth watching.
 
jspilot said:
Why don't people like this magazine? I really enjoy reading it. Honesty it's way better than anything AOPA puts out-- those magazines have the same 10 articles that just are reprinted with the same message each time.
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I totally agree -- much better than AOPA mag. More in line with pilots like me (Joe six-pack). I know I'll never even smell a turbo twin except for the stinky kerosene. :(
 
I get both flying and AOPA Pilot, but rarely read them. I find that I get more interesting and relevant information on this board.

As someone else mentioned here, print media is dead. I am glad I do not work in that industry.
 
Aviation and automobile magazines are in an odd situation between readers and advertisers. Aviation and auto manufacturers are usually the big money advertisers in both, so ACTUAL reviews are not good for revenue. Imagine if you will, Flying or AOPA doing a review on current certified avionics. Let's say they found the Avidyne superior in every way to the Garmin, not saying it is, but for the argument let's say that's what they publish. What happens to the 8 pages of advertising that Garmin buys every month?? :dunno: I'll tell you what happens they shift most or all their budget to the other magazine. ;)
What if they call the latest B/K vapor ware, vapor ware?? Does B/K dump them too?
Same with airplane manufacturers, who's paying for ad space? Aeronca or Cessna?
While the subscriptions are important, a magazine needs readers to justify ad revenue, it's the ad revenue is what makes money and ultimately supports the bottom line. :D
I like all aviation magazines, I keep them in the smallest room in my house and read them while I am seated. :D
 
N747JB said:
Aviation and automobile magazines are in an odd situation between readers and advertisers. Aviation and auto manufacturers are usually the big money advertisers in both, so ACTUAL reviews are not good for revenue. Imagine if you will, Flying or AOPA doing a review on current certified avionics. Let's say they found the Avidyne superior in every way to the Garmin, not saying it is, but for the argument let's say that's what they publish. What happens to the 8 pages of advertising that Garmin buys every month?? :dunno: I'll tell you what happens they shift most or all their budget to the other magazine. ;)
What if they call the latest B/K vapor ware, vapor ware?? Does B/K dump them too?
Same with airplane manufacturers, who's paying for ad space? Aeronca or Cessna?
While the subscriptions are important, a magazine needs readers to justify ad revenue, it's the ad revenue is what makes money and ultimately supports the bottom line. :D
I like all aviation magazines, I keep them in the smallest room in my house and read them while I am seated. :D
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An acquaintance writes for a popular aviation magazine. During a chat at Oshkosh, he was telling the story behind the story of a forthcoming review. Several manufacturers provided hardware for a side by side evaluation and all agreed that they would participate in the testing and would be happy with the resulting article, regardless of how their product performed. Once the testing had identified the winners and losers, at least one of the losers wanted to retroactively choose to not participate in the test/article.

Um, no can do, Kemosabe...

His other (obvious) revelation was that glowing reviews are intended that way, but it isn't good business to trash a product. So, if a product doesn't live up to expectations, "The facts are all in there", you've just got to pay attention when you read the article.
 
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