First AF Enlisted UAV Pilots

It isn't for simple disagreement, it is for the ignorance, arrogance and rudeness. The bully part was incidental, it was the insecure adolescent part you should pay attention to. BTW, you didn't actually voice a valid disagreement.
It was simple disagreement. All the personal stuff you claim is simple conjecture on your part. You have a really bad idea and don't like someone pointing it out. Tough.
 
It was simple disagreement. All the personal stuff you claim is simple conjecture on your part. You have a really bad idea and don't like someone pointing it out. Tough.
You've demonstrated nothing but ignorance and the inability to have a conversation. The next time you criticize try accompanying it with substance. Like I've said before, disagreement is welcome but rudeness isn't. Feel free to try again.
 
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I agree with Cooter. No issue with the idea of Enlisted folks flying planes, unmanned or otherwise. But I have also seen how their evals (the only thing that can be used to rack and stack a group of applicants) and career milestones go. Not their fault in any way, but it is a complete joke. Things like "well this guy/gal has been here for a year, it is probably time for a NAM" have been uttered in Enlisted ranking and awards boards I have been part of. If you can fog a mirror, and most importantly, have participated in a bunch of "extracurricular" activities at the detriment of your actual job, you will likely make CPO. Those who don't have the time to do such activities because they are in a mission critical job such as maintenance are not competitive. If I had a dollar for every time a fantastic maintenance shop Sailor of mine was overlooked in favor of some YN/IT/IS assclown who can't be bothered to even shave or adhere to military customs and courtesies, much less actually do their job, I'd have a mansion in Tahoe. Across the board, Enlisted or Officer alike, this system rewards a bunch of no talent assclowns who want to be called "warfighter", yet do nothing of the sort, and are too lazy to actually support those who do. That is why we are all leaving. That and the E9's who enable this to continue. All the bonus money in the world wouldn't convince me to stay. If we started literally keel hauling ****ty leadership, O and E alike, I'd consider it. Instead, we have a small group of people who would have no other option outside the military, who get promoted because they are the only ones left. There are good ones left, don't get me wrong, but they are evenly mixed with the worst. My old man retired as a post squadron command O-5, my grandpa as a post wing command O-6. G-pa is long dead, but my dad completely "gets it" when he hears the kind of BS that is going on these days. And I am not talking the commonly reported cries of "political correctness", or "social agendas"……those things are minor annoyances. The real issue is when you realize how horribly we are managing personnel, and how out of touch the O-6+ crowd generally is. Quite literally, it is more worth it to me to inconvenience the bureau of personnel, than it is to collect the ~$2 million (bonuses and tax-free money included) that I would make over the course of the next 10 years before full retirement, let alone the post active-duty retirement pay I'd collect for the rest of my life. I can make many more times that in another job, where I don't have to deal with such a reactive group of leaders, nor do I have to placate no-load subordinates for the sake of not hurting feelings and building "retention".

Hit the nail on the head with the maintenance personel issue. I was trying to find a Marine Corps Times article on the subject that I read a couple weeks ago but I can't find it. Basically the mechs were complaining that they're not getting promoted because of high MOS cutting scores and no opportunity to attend PME because of the high maint optempo. These guys work their fingers to the bone and not get promoted, while other MOSs are promoting people for doing half the work. Same thing I experienced in ATC. Didn't matter that I excelled at my MOS, had high PFT scores, expert rifle range and flawless record. The human resource people decided to put my cutting score out of reach, while some dude sitting in admin shop gets promoted at almost half my score. I should've left after 4 yrs and sought FAA money but I loved doing the job in the Marines so I reenlisted. At some point you have to do what's best for yourself and family and seek work elsewhere.

Getting out after 10 yrs though. That's gotta be a tough decision. I work with a guy that did it at 14. Just wanted a better life for he and his family.
 
Getting out after 10 yrs though. That's gotta be a tough decision.

Luckily they have made the decision much easier. And I get to watch my kid grow up. Don't get me wrong, the guys (and gals) I've flown with and been in squadrons with are the best folks I've ever known……I'll miss that a ton. Someone who passed a few years ago once said something to the effect of "I was an only child, until I got to my JO squadron. It was there that I realized I had 15 brothers". That statement couldn't be more true. Unfortunately, that doesn't make it worth staying………and 80% of those buds, who are all in various walks of life in Naval Air at this point, are doing the same thing too. Whether the Admirals want to admit it, there is a mass exodus in progress.
 
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