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first time this Sat (excepting a few rounds fired as a teen) to the gun range.
Will be attending with an experienced cautious firearms user.
Any advance tips or links so I can be prepared, and know some basics do or don'ts?

I can imagine a few good basics, but my practical knowledge is nil.
thks
I have eye and ear protection.
 
Well Dave "KEEP THE MUZZLE POINTED DOWN RANGE', And Be Safe we dont want to hear you shoot your self in the foot(lol)
Dave G.
 
Well there are a lot of tips, but I guess the ones that come to me as most important are: treat all firearms as if they are loaded, never point the muzzle at anything you aren't prepared to put a hole through (treat the muzzle like a laser beam - try not to "cut" a body part off yourself or someone else), always know the status of your firearm (magazine loaded or unloaded? Round chambered or not?) which at the target range is just another layer of safety considering we always treat it as loaded anyway...

And always focus on the front sight, not the target. The harder you concentrate on the front sight - indeed, obsess on the front sight - the more accurate you will be. Goes for handgun or shotgun. Put the front sight on the target and concentrate on the sight so hard that the discharge when it comes is a surprise.
 
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IMHO based on 40 years of shooting:

Hearing protection is essential. BANG-Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee sux.
The gun is always loaded. If I clear the gun and declare it safe then immediately hand it to you, I expect you to clear it also and verify to yourself and to me that it is in fact clear and safe...then treat it like it's loaded and cocked. IOW, your gun, your responsibility.
Never ever lay a loaded gun down. Bullets out before laying it on the table. Cylinder open and no bullets for a revolver. Clip out and slide locked open for semi-automatic. That shows everyone it's safe.
Be aware of your environment. Make sure nothing stupid is going on behind you before going into shooting mode. (Imagine kids running around or someone not watching where they're going and bumping into you)
As shippoke said, muzzle downrange.
Relax.
Have fun.


When I'm teaching anyone to shoot a gun that hasn't fired one before:

Handle the gun safely and learn it before loading up. It's about respect, not fear. A gun cleaning session before going to the range is useful to some people.

Put an oil funnel in the barrel, or imagine one in the barrel. Anything that is allowed within that expanding cone is to be considered ok to shoot. If it's not, then barrel control is seriously lacking.

Click a few empty chambers off to get the feel of the gun and where the trigger actually fires at.

Pistol? Revolver or semi-auto? Revolver is a lot slower, safer and easier for a beginner. If it's semi-auto with someone who hasn't fired one before, I put one round in the clip and fire single shot a couple times before loading the clip with more bullets. Then I do two rounds a few times to get the point across that the gun is immediately ready to fire again THEN if everything is going good, I'll load the clip further. Before they get the 2 rounds, I will demonstrate the BANG "this thing is ready to fire immediately again right now" BANG "see what I mean" lesson. That usually gets their attention. That process keeps new shooters from getting excited and swinging a loaded cocked ready to fire gun around in unsafe directions with their finger still on the trigger.


Just behave like you do with an airplane and you'll do ok.
 
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Good point Frank..."dry firing" is great practice particularly with a handgun. Spend a couple minutes aiming and pulling the trigger on an empty weapon before you load up (and concentrate on the front sight while you are doing it :D )
 
What Frank said, plus everyone else.

But I'll add a few, most of which pertain to handguns:

If you have the opportunity, shoot a .22 caliber revolver, pistol, or rifle. You can shoot hundreds of rounds for pennies, and you learn how a firearm feels in your hands and what a trigger pull feels like without the big "bang" of a large caliber round.

Unless you are a thrill seeker, avoid .357 magnums, .44 magnums, 10 mm, or other "hot" rounds. I've seen people start out with those, and then learn the very bad habit of anticipating recoil.

The shorter the barrel, the greater the recoil.

If you go past .22 caliber rounds, then .38 specials and 9mm rounds are nice to shoot without any unreasonable recoil.

Always use the first pad on your trigger finger on the trigger, not the 2nd pad.

I've had an FBI firearm instructor help me with anticipating recoil. We used a large frame revolver, loaded with .38 special "wadcutters" - a target round with very little recoil. He had me dry-fire the revolver with a quarter resting on the top of the frame. Then we shot wadcutters with the quarter in the same spot. That exercise helped tame a tendency to anticipate recoil.

As for safety, it's pretty well covered above. However, before going down range to change targets, ensure - visually - that all firearms are laying on the table or bench, breech open, with no one handling them whatsoever. If you haven't done that, don't go downrange. If you are uncomfortable saying anything, have your host say something. Likewise, when someone else is down range, ensure your firearm is set down, breech open, and do not touch it or go near it. Safety is everyone's responsibility, even if you are new.

Have fun!
 
All others have posted outstanding info.

One of the best pieces of info I received many many years ago was to "squeeze" the trigger as opposed to "pull" the trigger. When my shots start getting off center, it is invariably because I started to "pull" the trigger.

And most importantly, have fun!
 
"You'll shoot your eye out kid!" Oh, that's for BB guns.

Lots of good advice here. I assume you're shooting pistols. If you are going to dry fire, use a snap cap which can be bought in the appropriate caliber at most gun shops. If you can start with a .22 pistol that would be great, then work up to heavier calibers. 9MM in a semiauto and .38 Spl in a revolver are good second steps. They are good defense calibers without being heavy in felt recoil.

Have fun!
 
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Yes, the list of potential firearm rules can get long, but to borrow from aviation, it's all about situational awareness and keeping you and your fellow shooters as far away from harm as possible.

If it's a shared outdoor range, make 110% sure that EVERYONE is aware that you're going down range, and that ALL weapons are out of hands.

Communication is key. A friend of mine thought it was okay to travel down range, but took a step and a half before realizing the guy was nodding for some other reason. Be clear.

Also, please police your brass (i.e. pick up your spent casings). It doesn't take long and it keeps the range looking nice.
 
To add to all the other good advice, your finger doesn't go inside the trigger guard until the weapon is pointed down range and you are ready to shoot. I have a Sphinx .40 Automatic, and when it's cocked, it doesn't require much to fire.

Oh yeah, I whole heartedly agree with a "starter" weapon. A .44 magnum is not a weapon to learn on as evidenced by a gal who asked me to teach her how to shoot one (she inherited from her grandfather) and the bleeding mark it left in the middle of her forehead where the hammer tang got her.
 
in addition to what everyone else has said also treat everyone else on the range as a dangerous idiot who is about to have an accident in your direction.

Don't be rude to them, but expect them to make a mistake, keep your head on a swivel and do not assume the other guys are safe and you will be ok. If you are unsure a person has safed their weapon...ask them.

As for shooting concentrate on your breathing, make it constant and not huffy puffy, squeeze the trigger: do not pull it
 
Finger outside of the trigger guard and pointed in the direction of the barrel until ready to discharge the firearm.
 
Always ensure the chamber is empty when doing anything other than shooting.

When I first started dating my eventual wife we went to her dad's house. He was showing me his gun and knife collection, everytime he handed a gun I visually checked the chamber and ensured the gun was safe. later that evening he told his daughter that I was a good one the would keep her safe as I knew how to handles guns safely.

Funny how you are measured as worthy sometimes.
 
Always ensure the chamber is empty when doing anything other than shooting.

When I first started dating my eventual wife we went to her dad's house. He was showing me his gun and knife collection, everytime he handed a gun I visually checked the chamber and ensured the gun was safe. later that evening he told his daughter that I was a good one the would keep her safe as I knew how to handles guns safely.

Funny how you are measured as worthy sometimes.

Maybe he just figured that you might actually be able to shoot back at him. ;)
 
Hey wait a minute ... aren't Canadians forbidden from shooting weapons? :) Sorry Dave, couldn't resist...

Great advice above already and nothing more to add ... well, yeah wait a minute - in addition to the above on communications, ask for a run through on the range commands, what they are and what they mean, as well as the firing line rules, either from your friend or the range safety officer (assuming it's an organized range and not a "show up and shoot on your own" range)
 
in addition to what everyone else has said also treat everyone else on the range as a dangerous idiot who is about to have an accident in your direction.

That goes for driving too. Works for me.
 
thanks all;
its a "show up and shoot", informal place I believe.
if anyone there is anything but deadly serious about it I am outta dere
I don't know all the terminology above but I get the general drift and it concurs with my uninformed thoughts about it.
thanks for the tips, will report back
 
Airplanes and firearms...the two most awesome technologies devised by the mind of man. :D
 
range occupied with a poorly advertised 'Turkey shoot' so we are going in the am. Kevlar vest, check.
 
Oops I am traveling with one of the members in my car and want to be in compliance with the law...
they have to have it locked up?
out of sight?
with some type of permit?
if we get stopped, I have to mention the gun right away to the police?
leave in 45 mins
 
Oops I am traveling with one of the members in my car and want to be in compliance with the law...
they have to have it locked up?
out of sight?
with some type of permit?
if we get stopped, I have to mention the gun right away to the police?
leave in 45 mins

It varies from state to state, but in Iowa-
without a permit to carry it has to be in a locked case, not accessable from the passenger compartment, separate from the ammunition. There is no permit required, so long as it's not concealed on your person. You only have to tell the cop if they ask. I'd imagine Texas has similar laws.

http://www.texas-on-line.com/gun.html
 
thanks.
from the website we are ok if it is inaccessible to us. (this avoids proving we are headed to the gun range)

naturally I will insist it is unloaded regardless of any regs.
 
-it was a success! As measured by, all the holes ended up in things other than my body. Had a load of fun, too.

-before getting near the live rounds and the range, my instructor spent some time educating me on how to, what not to, how it works, some firearm differences, handling, range safety. He was thorough and persistent. Surprisingly, I found it not difficult to avoid shooting anyone. A lot of aviation similarities in the safety aspect. Trust but verify, always follow the same procedure with no variance.

-then I was able to load and fire at the range. I was pleased that the others present were not only following all the rules I was taught, but they were keeping a sharp eye on the newb (me).

-I shot at the target many times with a Smith and Wesson revolver. At the end I used a new target for two series of 6@ - 12 holes in that pic, countem. I won't say how far away it was, sorry!

-The last was shooting at a tiny metal plate probably 100' away. I hit it 5/6. That was a thrill as well, I dig the instant audio feedback on success.

-I also shot a glock, and a 22 rifle.

-I could get into this!
 

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-I shot at the target many times with a Smith and Wesson revolver. At the end I used a new target for two series of 6@ - 12 holes in that pic, countem. I won't say how far away it was, sorry!

Sounds like you had a great time!

How'd you shoot those holes without breaking the glass? You're GOOD! :D
 
Personally, I'm not a hunter or shooter. I do have to qualify every year with a .38 S&W, AR-15, and Remington 870P. It's just a day out of work for me.

But, I highly recommend the Gun Shop on Tropicana Blvd. in Las Vegas. They had every type of weapon, including machine guns, available to rent and shoot in their indoor range. IIRC, the Thompson Sub-Machine gun was $65 for a hundred rounds. An absolute blast.


Mike
 
Dave,

Somehow, I could really see you as the sheriff of some small Texas town back in the 1800s :yes:

Glad you had fun!
 
Personally, I'm not a hunter or shooter. I do have to qualify every year with a .38 S&W, AR-15, and Remington 870P. It's just a day out of work for me.


Are you in law enforcement Mike?
 
Are you in law enforcement Mike?

Kind of. Sergeant with the NYS Dept. of Corrections. Funny thing is, though even though I have to qualify every year, Being a Sgt., I don't ever work an armed post. Other than training, I haven't touched an AR-15 or Shotgun in 17 years. Occasionally, I will take a "high risk" transport that requires a Supervisor. For those, I have to take a .38.

My father used to tell me "Take the Prison Guard job, you're too lazy to work, too scared to steal, and too ugly to marry rich." Made a lotta sense, so here I am.


Mike
 
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