luvflyin
Touchdown! Greaser!
So how did you do it? You dont have flaps, right? Is it an RG? Straight ahead or bank? How much?
Emergency Descents
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luvflyin
Touchdown! Greaser!
Yeah. They aren't trying to squeeze every last FPM they can out of the manuever. Probably best that way for PPL.
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Straight ahead. No flaps. Can't maintain that angle for long though. Maxed out at 160 in the pullout. A more shallow pitch angle with a bank would probably be the best approach.
danhagan
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Emergency Venting procedure is a little further back in the POH
That or "Insurance just purchased your aircraft - only concern now is no injuries"
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True. We didn't want to go overboard on the first try so we'll need to revisit with a steeper bank.
Neither do they teach stalls. Cuz spins and stalls are the most frequent killers. So we eliminate them. What becomes the #1 killer now? Landings. So we should logically eliminate practicing those too, right?
denverpilot
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Just adding a minor note about retracts... know your gear system... and why Vle is at that speed.
In a lot of aircraft, Vle is set at a speed that either the hydraulics can’t overcome to get the gear down and locked, or a speed that’ll rip things like doors off, but the gear is just fine.
In a real emergency descent, if the system you have and have studied is limited because say, the nose gear can’t come down against the force of the air above Vle, and you’ve got the gear down and solidly locked... exceed Vle! As long as you know it’s not a locking pin or mechanism limit.
Or if it’s just going to rip the doors off, get on with it. Get down.
Reasons to study your systems for $500, Bob...
Obviously in the training world, don’t be ripping doors off. People won’t like that.
But THINK about what the actual aircraft can accomplish ahead of time if you need it to, to survive.
If you’re not bore sighting an airport and you’re landing out in the weeds anyway, no point in saving the gear doors to make it all look pretty when it’s towed out of the field.
In a lot of aircraft, Vle is set at a speed that either the hydraulics can’t overcome to get the gear down and locked, or a speed that’ll rip things like doors off, but the gear is just fine.
In a real emergency descent, if the system you have and have studied is limited because say, the nose gear can’t come down against the force of the air above Vle, and you’ve got the gear down and solidly locked... exceed Vle! As long as you know it’s not a locking pin or mechanism limit.
Or if it’s just going to rip the doors off, get on with it. Get down.
Reasons to study your systems for $500, Bob...
Obviously in the training world, don’t be ripping doors off. People won’t like that.
But THINK about what the actual aircraft can accomplish ahead of time if you need it to, to survive.
If you’re not bore sighting an airport and you’re landing out in the weeds anyway, no point in saving the gear doors to make it all look pretty when it’s towed out of the field.
Kritchlow
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This is true, and why many larger airplanes have a separate Vle vs Vlo.Just adding a minor note about retracts... know your gear system... and why Vle is at that speed.
In a lot of aircraft, Vle is set at a speed that either the hydraulics can’t overcome to get the gear down and locked, or a speed that’ll rip things like doors off, but the gear is just fine.
In a real emergency descent, if the system you have and have studied is limited because say, the nose gear can’t come down against the force of the air above Vle, and you’ve got the gear down and solidly locked... exceed Vle! As long as you know it’s not a locking pin or mechanism limit.
Or if it’s just going to rip the doors off, get on with it. Get down.
Reasons to study your systems for $500, Bob...
Obviously in the training world, don’t be ripping doors off. People won’t like that.
But THINK about what the actual aircraft can accomplish ahead of time if you need it to, to survive.
If you’re not bore sighting an airport and you’re landing out in the weeds anyway, no point in saving the gear doors to make it all look pretty when it’s towed out of the field.