Driving a Semi Tractor for Fun

What is it again that you are trying to tow that you can't to with a F250 ?

Nothing. But that's not as fun.

:yeahthat:

The other issue with the F-250 is that it isn't what I want. I took it as a trade for a Jeep Wrangler (which I took as a trade for my wife's BMW). The F-250 is 4x2, automatic, extended cab/short bed. Also, I want a "proper" (inline 6) diesel, not a V8. Basically, it misses all the marks. If I have a pickup I want a quad cab long bed (I do haul sheets of plywood/drywall for which the long bed is beneficial, and I've never liked extended cabs). Also want 4x4 and a manual as 4x2 pickups get stuck too easily.

The F-250 also is running on 7 cylinders and that appears to be related to either bad rings or a hole in the piston. That requires significant work that, while I can fix it cheaply enough (parts are cheap for these) will require some significant downtime.

Really, the semi aspect is just a bucket list item.
 
Might have found a semi...
 
or an old track loader and a pile of dirt to play in.....:D

We already have a dirt pile that the kids love. I'm slowly moving the dirt out back to make a shooting range backstop.
 
The plan is to fly up on Friday to check out this Peterbilt that I'm looking to buy. It looks like it's basically exactly what I'm looking for, so I'm pretty hopeful it will work out. If it all goes well, I'll hand over the cash and drive home with the title in hand. It's about 500 miles home, so it'll be a good run.

I'll stop at weigh stations, or at least pull into them if they're open. Not sure if they'll want to talk to me or not (or if I even technically need to when empty), but having checked the laws in the states I'm driving through I'm completely legal driving it without a CDL since it's for personal use and under 26k. I would like to get a weight on the truck just to get an idea of its empty weight. In Kansas, I can register it based off of the GCVWR I plan on doing with it, and the plates get more expensive as the weight goes up (as you'd expect), so I don't want to go for heavier plates than I'm realistically going to use and spend extra money I don't have to.

Plan will be to top off the tanks when I pick it up and not shut it off for the drive home, just in case it decides it doesn't want to start. I'll dump some PowerService DieselKleen in the tanks when I fill up for good measure and to get some cleaner through the injectors on the drive home.

Any other thoughts from the veteran truckers appreciated.
 
What engine does the one you're eyeing have? And do you need someone to fly the 414 back for you if you buy the truck? ;) I assume you're flying *gasp* commercial.
 
Knowing what I know about border crossings I'll say one thing: back roads. I've had loads hung up for days because the guys running the station understood the routine, not the law. Once you are told to park it there isn't a damn thing you can do until they say you can go...
 
Be careful if it's raining. I don't know a lot about semi tractors, but I would think the rears would be really prone to locking up in the wet without any weight on them. Kind of like old heavy duty pickups in the days before ABS.
 
Even if a weigh station is closed, you can still roll across the scales and get a weight. If you find one early on your trip, with full fuel, that will be a good starting point.

Not sure the purpose, but I have seen a lot of "personal" trucks with a "NOT FOR HIRE" sticker on both doors, for the scale masters. I am guessing it might alert the troopers at the weigh station that you are just personal, not much to look for.

Check to see if you need an "Annual" inspection before you ferry it. If you do, mechanics can usually sign it for $50.

If you were to get to a scale, and get inspected, and they don't like what you have seen, or something is amiss, they can just impound the truck until everything is in compliance.
 
Well, nevermind that. Guy just texted me and said he sold the truck to someone else yesterday. Annoying since I said I would give him a deposit to hold it for me, but at least I hadn't bought a commercial ticket so I'm not out anything.

Disappointing since the truck really was exactly what I was looking for, but I'll find something else.
 
Ted. Not exactly sure about not needing a cdl to get it home. I was in trucking for 30 years but not much for last 8 years. You will be fine in Minnesota as I don't think you will probably go thru a scale. Iowa is whole different game. I would recommend you actually call a scale first and ask them their interpretation of the law as far as what you want to do. If you are buying from dealer and can get temp tags or if it is still legally plated would be much easier. You also should ask about fuel permits and such. What you plate it for doesn't really exempt you from cdl. It's the Gvw on door they go off. However if you register as rv will do what you want. If you could have truck delivered would be much better. Don't drive by the scales thinking you don't have to stop as that is automatic fine. If they have to chase you down isn't going to end well. I had 5 trucks running between ohare and eppley every day hauling mail so very familiar with Iowa. More headaches with dot than all the rest of states combined.
 
Thanks, Joe, good info. The fact that each state is different on laws does make it more challenging. From what I've read up on Iowa, the law says that I'm fine since it's personal only (non-commercial), but of course you can always get someone who decides they don't like it and cause trouble. Ultimately if I get one of these, I think a CDL is in my future just to make sure there's no gray area regardless of where I drive it. My understanding is that to register it as an RV it needs to have an installed toilet somewhere.

I found another couple ones of interest... we'll see...
 
I can't wait until Ted gets one, I'll be first in line for instruction!
 
Not sure the purpose, but I have seen a lot of "personal" trucks with a "NOT FOR HIRE" sticker on both doors, for the scale masters. I am guessing it might alert the troopers at the weigh station that you are just personal, not much to look for.

The "NOT FOR HIRE" is a requirement if it's a private truck per my understanding of the regs.

And in my case, it will be personal. If nothing else, the insurance for a for-hire truck gets to be insane, and there's no way I'd drive enough to make that worth doing.

man....this dog gig must be really lucrative. :D

Yeah, Cloud Nine's Form 990 shows that I sure get quite a salary. In fact, all of our highest-paid employees get the same salary of $0/year!

We're actually looking at buying trucks that are worth the same or less as my wife's Avalanche that we just sold. If you combine the value of all of our 4 wheeled vehicles you could buy one really crappy new car. Right now we have 3 cars/trucks - Excursion, Mercedes, and F-250. Planning to sell the F-250 and replace it with a semi. Combined value of all of them is <$20k, probably <$15k realistically.

We drive cheap, older cars and I do all the work on them.

I can't wait until Ted gets one, I'll be first in line for instruction!

Come on out! I'll post in here once I find what I'm looking for...
 
Whatever you get, you absolutely must have the big chrome air horns on the roof. The long ones, not the little bitty short ones......:cool:
 
Whatever you get, you absolutely must have the big chrome air horns on the roof. The long ones, not the little bitty short ones......:cool:

I also want this steering wheel:

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New plan - picking up an 88 K100 with 94k mikes on it since new tomorrow.

Cummins L10 and a 13 speed, single bunk. Odd combination but the story behind it makes sense.
 
I was going to make a post asking if there was a good semi truck forum that I should look for, but I realized that this forum is more helpful. :)
 
Is that a Spicer 13 speed?

It's an Eaton.

I've left this thread silent for the past month or so, so I'll give an update.

On December 30th, I went and picked up my 1988 Kenworth K100. I noticed a few issues with it, but nothing significant. 94k miles since new! Really, it drove pretty well and most things worked on it. Ran great, albeit pretty anemic. So, on the road I went.

About 100 miles later, the right side of the 3rd axle locked up going down the highway. So I pulled over and it was locked up pretty well. Called the guy I dealt with for buying the truck and he suggested I rock it back and forth and it would break loose. It did after a few tries, and then down the road I went.

I got off the highway about 10 miles later and, coming around a corner, I then found the truck wasn't accelerating when I hit the gas, the engine just revved up. Look in my rear view mirror and that same right 3rd axle side was rolling down the road behind me. I stopped the truck in a position where the wheels would hit the back of the truck, which they did. This could have been really, really bad, going through someone's house, hitting a person, or going through an intersection and causing a big wreck.

At this point, obviously I wasn't going much further. Called a semi truck repair facility who sent their wrecker (a Freightliner) and towed me to their shop, not far away. Really nice guys. Here's where the story gets interesting.

First off, there were no remnants of the outer wheel bearing found. The inner bearing after a good amount of checking was found to be the WRONG BEARING. There was about 1/4" between the spindle and the inner race. So, what happened as far as we could tell was that they put the wrong inner bearing on the truck and then that twisting load caused the outer bearing to explode. When that happened, the wheel shifted outwards and locked up. We saw evidence of this where the brake drum had cut into the brake shoes on that wheel (which were otherwise almost new). That wheel was also having a sticking brake issue, which was almost ceratinly related to that.

Even more interesting, you'd think this sort of misalignment would have been noticed by all sorts of differential fluid everywhere. Not so! Because... the differential was empty. Yep. Empty. Bone dry. The truck had recently been serviced by the school, and they screwed it up big time.

The shop went to a lot of effort to find the RIGHT bearings, and put it back together. While doing so I asked "Did you get the inner bearing? I didn't see it go in." "Yep, it's in already." "Ok." Filled it up, and off I went.

About 70 miles later, I ended up going into a weigh station (Missouri). When the officer stood up and looked out the window in shock, I figured that was a bad sign. So I get pulled over to the inspection area. Differential fluid all over that same wheel. Great. The officer I dealt with was actually very nice and helpful. By this point it was about 10 PM, so I was done for the day. I got the number of another truck repair guy, and a state trooper gave me a ride to a motel in the next town.

Next morning, the repair guy picked me up and we went back to the truck. Got it all apart and... no inner wheel bearing. Sigh...

After all that work to find the right bearing, clean it up, etc... they didn't put it in. But the shop owned up to the mistake and didn't argue about towing the truck back to their shop, while I got a ride home.

The truck is still at that shop, but we decided to resolve the situation by me getting a severely discounted back-half job, which will add an air ride suspension and get aluminum wheels on the back axles. At least, that's the plan. They haven't yet gotten a back half candidate. They've been good on communication and I haven't pushed them since it's not something I need, and I know their job is to keep truckers truckin', as it should be. But if it goes on too much longer, I'll just have them put it back together as-is and bring it home.

Quite an adventure, but it's a fun thing to drive. Needs more boost and more fuel...
 
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Quite an adventure, but it's a fun thing to drive. Needs more boost and more fuel...

Why do I feel like you'd say that about anything you drove (or flew)? :)
 
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I love NA threads like this, keeps POA interesting. Just about every guy I know at one time or another has wondered what it would be like to drive a semi truck.

Ted, keep us up to date on this one!
 
Ok, first off, that's funny as hell. I've never told you about my tenure as a truck mechanic at the local truck stop my junior and senior years in High School. Quite an experience and many funny stories about working the night shift there that i will not recount on POA. Am I correct that this is a cab over design or is it a conventional? At either rate I am sure the wheel lock up was quite an adventure in itself.

Can't wait to see pictures of Robert and the gals riding high and chatting on the CB. Breaker Breaker Good Buddy
 
Wow.... just wow.....

As a former truck mechanic I just can't believe someone could just forget to put bearings in, or fail to make sure it is full of lube.

I used to work in those dirty, nasty truck stops that didn't have heat and the parking lot was not paved. I did more rear end bearings and brakes in those couple of years to last a lifetime, not to mention repairing flats on those killer split rim..... I still have nightmares on those. All for 3 bucks an hour. (ahhhh... to be young and stupid)

My procedure to fill rear ends was to fill it to the inspection hole, re-insert the plug, then jack one side of the truck up about 6 to 8 inches for 30 minutes, then do the other side the same way, then down level and let it sit for 30 minutes. Check level and add lubricant as needed. By jacking up one side, letting it down, jacking up the other side, then letting it down ensured that the lubricant had reached the bearings. Just filling to the hole and putting the plug back in will ensure that the fluid will be low and maybe not reaching the bearings.


Yep good buddy, I was also a suicide jockey...bring that chartreuse micro bus up here, I need all the help I can get...
 
Ok, first off, that's funny as hell. I've never told you about my tenure as a truck mechanic at the local truck stop my junior and senior years in High School. Quite an experience and many funny stories about working the night shift there that i will not recount on POA. Am I correct that this is a cab over design or is it a conventional? At either rate I am sure the wheel lock up was quite an adventure in itself.

Can't wait to see pictures of Robert and the gals riding high and chatting on the CB. Breaker Breaker Good Buddy

K100 was a cabover.
 
Why do I feel like you'd say that about anything you drove (or flew)? :)

You make a valid point. My Mercedes E55 AMG is the first car I've owned that I say "It's got enough power." Of course, it's got 469 HP with a twin-screw supercharger. It ain't slow, that's for sure.

That said, this is an 18k lb truck with only about 300 HP and the aerodynamics of a brick wall. It does need some help.

Ok, first off, that's funny as hell. I've never told you about my tenure as a truck mechanic at the local truck stop my junior and senior years in High School. Quite an experience and many funny stories about working the night shift there that i will not recount on POA. Am I correct that this is a cab over design or is it a conventional? At either rate I am sure the wheel lock up was quite an adventure in itself.

Can't wait to see pictures of Robert and the gals riding high and chatting on the CB. Breaker Breaker Good Buddy

Yep, this is a cabover with a single bunk sleeper. I will say that I think if I eventually sell it and still try to get another semi, I will go for a conventional. But that's based on my current thoughts with the ride of this truck (really bad) vs. the wrecker which was a Freightliner FLD conventional with an air ride (really good). But, I also have overall length concerns which were part of why I wanted the cabover. When I get the thing back assuming it has an air ride, that may leave me on wanting to keep it.

This truck does have an air ride cab, which I don't much care for. Doesn't seem to do much besides make the cab swing all over the place.

Yep, the kids are going to love it. And I think Laurie will too once it's back.

The locked up tire was honestly not a big deal. The other 3 sets of rear wheels were still spinning just fine. Little bit of correction required in the steering but nothing bad. If it were a single axle truck, this would've been bad all around. The flat spot would've been harder control (although I'm betting still just fine), but of course when the wheel fell off that would've also made that side of the truck fall down.

Wow.... just wow.....

As a former truck mechanic I just can't believe someone could just forget to put bearings in, or fail to make sure it is full of lube.

I used to work in those dirty, nasty truck stops that didn't have heat and the parking lot was not paved. I did more rear end bearings and brakes in those couple of years to last a lifetime, not to mention repairing flats on those killer split rim..... I still have nightmares on those. All for 3 bucks an hour. (ahhhh... to be young and stupid)

My procedure to fill rear ends was to fill it to the inspection hole, re-insert the plug, then jack one side of the truck up about 6 to 8 inches for 30 minutes, then do the other side the same way, then down level and let it sit for 30 minutes. Check level and add lubricant as needed. By jacking up one side, letting it down, jacking up the other side, then letting it down ensured that the lubricant had reached the bearings. Just filling to the hole and putting the plug back in will ensure that the fluid will be low and maybe not reaching the bearings.

I agree with you fully. The fact that the same bearing got screwed up twice in one way or another is amazing. That said, the 2nd time was a human factors error and I consider it forgivable. He probably spent close to an hour getting the right bearing, it just never got put in the truck. It was late on a Friday, he was tired. I should've pushed harder when I didn't think it was in there, so that's the lesson learned for me. Like I said, they owned up to it and it's back there for the other work I want to do.
 
Most important question for the kids: does the horn work?

It does, but it's very quiet. Partly broken. I will be fixing that.
 
Like I said, they owned up to it and it's back there for the other work I want to do.

Hehehe, I knew the story before it was here, from the photos elsewhere, and have been wondering how they're coming along...

And how much you'll lose it on them, when they screw it all up a third time! ;)
 
Hehehe, I knew the story before it was here, from the photos elsewhere, and have been wondering how they're coming along...

And how much you'll lose it on them, when they screw it all up a third time! ;)

Well, I think it would go without saying that if there's another significant screw-up, there won't be another chance to fix it.
 
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