Did FLYING Magazine give away the airplanes or what?

[John Spartan]

Still no answer to the mystery.

 

[John Spartan]

I’ll take this one.

2017 Tecnam Astore for sale

2017 Tecnam Astore airplane for sale located in Stuart, Florida. This listing was posted on May 11, 2024. Search more Tecnam airplanes on Hangar67.

www.hangar67.com

 

[Half Fast]

Still no answer to the mystery.

They still can't deliver my magazines, so what do you expect?

The company seems to be far more interested in acquisition and promotion than actually delivering products to customers.

 

[wellknow]

the guy took the cash prize

 

[John Spartan]

the guy took the cash prize

Really? Must have a bird he already loves. Did they announce it somewhere then?

 

[Half Fast]

the guy took the cash prize

I hope he bought a plane with it.

 

[GaryM]

the guy took the cash prize

I hope he didn’t accept a check

 

[Freightalley]

Craig Fuller here, CEO of FLYING. The grand prize has been awarded, but after deliberating, the recipient chose the $100k cash prize instead of the ICON.

The aircraft in question was owned by FLYING, so the ICON bankruptcy had zero bearing on the award.

It took us a bit of time to get the award winner to respond to our outreach and to accept the prize.

We will have an announcement this coming week with the award recipient details.

 

[WDD]

Turned out instead of delivering a check, they gave him $100,000 worth of magazine subscriptions to Flying

 

[John Spartan]

Craig Fuller here, CEO of FLYING. The grand prize has been awarded, but after deliberating, the recipient chose the $100k cash prize instead of the ICON.

The aircraft in question was owned by FLYING, so the ICON bankruptcy had zero bearing on the award.

It took us a bit of time to get the award winner to respond to our outreach and to accept the prize.

We will have an announcement this coming week with the award recipient details.

So why such poor interaction with the public after the drawing? Would it have been that hard to post “The drawing has been completed and we are waiting for the winner to reply. Thanks for your participation” or similar on the Flying website rather than radio silence?

 

[Half Fast]

Craig Fuller here, CEO of FLYING. The grand prize has been awarded, but after deliberating, the recipient chose the $100k cash prize instead of the ICON.

The aircraft in question was owned by FLYING, so the ICON bankruptcy had zero bearing on the award.

It took us a bit of time to get the award winner to respond to our outreach and to accept the prize.

We will have an announcement this coming week with the award recipient details.

Great. Now why can’t you deliver my magazines?

 

[Half Fast]

@Freightalley

Hey, Craig. I have missed several issues of both FLYING and Plane & Pilot. I made a few phone calls to your subscription number which got me promises but no magazines, and I emailed customer service and I even spoke with two of your people at SNF, all to no avail. Your reps at your SNF booth took down all my contact info and promised someone would reach out to me within a few days, but that never happened.

Meanwhile, I did receive an email from FLYING asking why I had not renewed, so I know you folks know how to reach me. You're choosing to ignore a problem rather than fixing it. And why should I renew when you can't even deliver all the mags from my last subscription?

This seems like a pretty shoddy way to treat customers, doesn't it?

 

[Bob Noel]

Turned out instead of delivering a check, they gave him $100,000 worth of magazine subscriptions to Flying

that's cold

 

[Half Fast]

that's cold

Well, it's a savings for the magazine, since they'll never deliver any copies anyway.

 

[WDD]

that's cold

Nah, that just funny.

Well, it's a savings for the magazine, since they'll never deliver any copies anyway.

Now there is an upset customer if I ever saw one.

 

[Bob Noel]

Turned out instead of delivering a check, they gave him $100,000 worth of magazine subscriptions to Flying

How many subscriptions would be worth $100,000?

 

[John Spartan]

How many subscriptions would be worth $100,000?

Well, let’s see… with recent magazine acquisitions and costs per sub…. Should be able to get them all for…. 3 years.

 

[Half Fast]

As anticipated, still no reply from @Freightalley .

 

[WDD]

Craig Fuller here, CEO of FLYING. The grand prize has been awarded, but after deliberating, the recipient chose the $100k cash prize instead of the ICON.

Taxes are probably why the winner picked the money over the plane. Had the plane been picked, the winner would have had to come up with the money on his/her own to pay taxes, plus registration, etc.

 

[Half Fast]

Taxes are probably why the winner picked the money over the plane. Had the plane been picked, the winner would have had to come up with the money on his/her own to pay taxes, plus registration, etc.

There's a good likelihood the winner already owned a plane anyway. I wouldn't have taken the Icon, given the state of the company and the potential difficulty with support. So the choice would be the Astore LSA, a beautiful plane no doubt, but if the winner already had a faster, more capable airplane, why add an LSA to the fleet?

 

[Half Fast]

Well, it’s May 29. Almost June. My May issue of P&P finally showed up today. I wonder whether I’ll see the June issue by Independence Day.....

 

[Sierra_Hotel]

Is this going to be your daily update thread for your gripes with Flying mag?

 

[Half Fast]

Is this going to be your daily update thread for your gripes with Flying mag?

Yes

 

[WDD]

As such, it deserves to be made a sticky.

 

[John Spartan]

Better late than never. Not well managed regardless of the article tone.

FLYING Announces Winner of Ultimate Giveaway

FLYING Magazine is thrilled to announce the winner of our highly anticipated Ultimate Giveaway.

www.flyingmag.com

 

[Half Fast]

No mention that he took the cash instead of the plane.

 

[gearFX]

No mention that he took the cash instead of the plane.

That might discourage future prize sponsors?

 

[Salty]

That might discourage future prize sponsors?

Why? It’s what happens more often than not.

 

[Half Fast]

That might discourage future prize sponsors?

Doubtful, especially since the Icon wasn't a sponsored prize; it was owned by the magazine (see Craig Fuller's post above).

 

[John Spartan]

Doubtful, especially since the Icon wasn't a sponsored prize; it was owned by the magazine (see Craig Fuller's post above).

As I recall, Craig Fuller owns an Astore so that might be the source of that one. After the articles of his about loving the Astore, it will be interesting to see what bird he moves to when the mLSA planes arrive.