COVID testing X3

[denverpilot]

FWIW I think you can pay about $120 thru LabCorp @MuseChaser.

In theory that would be protected under HIPAA unless your local bureaucrats have managed to exempt themselves and also care about private testing enough to remember to ask them for it.

Still, they wouldn’t release about half of that stuff. No medical necessity.

 

[wsuffa]

FWIW I think you can pay about $120 thru LabCorp @MuseChaser.

In theory that would be protected under HIPAA unless your local bureaucrats have managed to exempt themselves and also care about private testing enough to remember to ask them for it.

Still, they wouldn’t release about half of that stuff. No medical necessity.

HIPAA exempts the government if it had need. There are all kinds is state mandated reporting requirements for medical conditions.

 

[jordane93]

My brother in law just tested positive last week with 2 separate tests. My sister just tested negative with 2 separate tests.

 

[denverpilot]

HIPAA exempts the government if it had need. There are all kinds is state mandated reporting requirements for medical conditions.

I was being careful to say “if” because I couldn’t remember if they had a blanket exemption.

Still, having seen exactly what LabCorp sends and how difficult it is to get that data from their IT dept in the first place, at least half that stuff he mentioned as objectionable to give to government, wouldn’t be in the stock data feed and it would take over a month to get them to add it. LOL.

The feed will also randomly stop arriving for days at a time. At least monthly. Can’t say here exactly how I know that. LOL.

Whatever data tools they use must be god awful. See below.

Slow response to change requests could be noted as the understatement of the year. Haha. Heck... slow response to “hey it’s not sending anything again” is the norm.

I also can’t think of any government agency smaller than State level that has the IT brain cells to even parse the mess that LabCorp sends.

The best State level group we worked with on a different project would take three months to build that file xfer system needed and feed parser.

It’s ummmm... fairly “raw” shall we say? Not exactly a nice clean API call.

Put the two together and I doubt they’re very far along on data sharing. Even for something as “important” as Covid. Ha.

(As I recall the data processing engine on the LC side is similar to old mainframe “batch” systems re-written in old outdated Java. We learned this years ago when their side blew up because ancient Java couldn’t handle modern SSL certificates in its config storage. Heh. They initially blamed us until we showed them a newer version of Java handled it just fine... LOL... and it took until this year to even get a “continuous” feed out of them instead of a huge nightly “dump”.)

And if it sounds like I’m picking on LC, I’m not. Their competitors are worse. Hahaha. Like, “OMG you can’t make a batch file even and you’re manually sending us faxes?!” levels of “worse”.

 

[MrAnderson]

That is a very scary thought actually. I’ve read some people who had the virus back in March and April and still don’t have their sense of taste or smell back.

the majority are men that are just now finding out their wives can’t cook.

 

[MuseChaser]

I was being careful to say “if” because I couldn’t remember if they had a blanket exemption.

Still, having seen exactly what LabCorp sends and how difficult it is to get that data from their IT dept in the first place, at least half that stuff he mentioned as objectionable to give to government, wouldn’t be in the stock data feed and it would take over a month to get them to add it. LOL.

The feed will also randomly stop arriving for days at a time. At least monthly. Can’t say here exactly how I know that. LOL.

Whatever data tools they use must be god awful. See below.

Slow response to change requests could be noted as the understatement of the year. Haha. Heck... slow response to “hey it’s not sending anything again” is the norm.

I also can’t think of any government agency smaller than State level that has the IT brain cells to even parse the mess that LabCorp sends.

The best State level group we worked with on a different project would take three months to build that file xfer system needed and feed parser.

It’s ummmm... fairly “raw” shall we say? Not exactly a nice clean API call.

Put the two together and I doubt they’re very far along on data sharing. Even for something as “important” as Covid. Ha.

(As I recall the data processing engine on the LC side is similar to old mainframe “batch” systems re-written in old outdated Java. We learned this years ago when their side blew up because ancient Java couldn’t handle modern SSL certificates in its config storage. Heh. They initially blamed us until we showed them a newer version of Java handled it just fine... LOL... and it took until this year to even get a “continuous” feed out of them instead of a huge nightly “dump”.)

And if it sounds like I’m picking on LC, I’m not. Their competitors are worse. Hahaha. Like, “OMG you can’t make a batch file even and you’re manually sending us faxes?!” levels of “worse”.

Nate, I appreciate the suggestion and the elucidations. Unfortunately, well... while reading your post above, I kind of felt like the dog below... sure wish i knew more about that stuff!

 

[denverpilot]

Nate, I appreciate the suggestion and the elucidations. Unfortunately, well... while reading your post above, I kind of felt like the dog below... sure wish i knew more about that stuff!

Hmm. The simple version...

LanCorp may be required to give anything asked to government, but their IT systems are kinda old and busted for such feeds. You stand a pretty good chance your local government isn’t receiving anything from them. When they do, it’ll be incomplete data for quite a while.

 

[murphey]

FWIW I think you can pay about $120 thru LabCorp @MuseChaser.

In theory that would be protected under HIPAA unless your local bureaucrats have managed to exempt themselves and also care about private testing enough to remember to ask them for it.

Still, they wouldn’t release about half of that stuff. No medical necessity.

Quest Diagnostics is better about managing everything including the results. I've used both, prefer Quest. I don't let anyone at my doctor's office do a blood draw on me - too difficult.

 

[wsuffa]

I was being careful to say “if” because I couldn’t remember if they had a blanket exemption.

Still, having seen exactly what LabCorp sends and how difficult it is to get that data from their IT dept in the first place, at least half that stuff he mentioned as objectionable to give to government, wouldn’t be in the stock data feed and it would take over a month to get them to add it. LOL.

The feed will also randomly stop arriving for days at a time. At least monthly. Can’t say here exactly how I know that. LOL.

Whatever data tools they use must be god awful. See below.

Slow response to change requests could be noted as the understatement of the year. Haha. Heck... slow response to “hey it’s not sending anything again” is the norm.

I also can’t think of any government agency smaller than State level that has the IT brain cells to even parse the mess that LabCorp sends.

The best State level group we worked with on a different project would take three months to build that file xfer system needed and feed parser.

It’s ummmm... fairly “raw” shall we say? Not exactly a nice clean API call.

Put the two together and I doubt they’re very far along on data sharing. Even for something as “important” as Covid. Ha.

(As I recall the data processing engine on the LC side is similar to old mainframe “batch” systems re-written in old outdated Java. We learned this years ago when their side blew up because ancient Java couldn’t handle modern SSL certificates in its config storage. Heh. They initially blamed us until we showed them a newer version of Java handled it just fine... LOL... and it took until this year to even get a “continuous” feed out of them instead of a huge nightly “dump”.)

And if it sounds like I’m picking on LC, I’m not. Their competitors are worse. Hahaha. Like, “OMG you can’t make a batch file even and you’re manually sending us faxes?!” levels of “worse”.

By the way, this is not mandatory. Yet.

Most health care providers submit data to the system. I could forsee something like this being mandatory for Covid.

https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/immunization/viis/

 

[bbchien]

I get labcorp results usually in 48 hours secure on line, as the "ordering doc".

 

[denverpilot]

I get labcorp results usually in 48 hours secure on line, as the "ordering doc".

I assume you log into their website. That’s correct.

Website works fine in that case. So does the mobile app.

Anything needing a “feed” as in “the system searches nationwide for items that match a particular county of residence, or county of test facility, and then they send all of those to that county government” is a different “back end” system.

Basically anything that requires a search and gets batched. It can’t do them in real time at entry, it isn’t smart enough.

(They’re searching different fields other than location for our stuff but it’s the same underlying engine and principle.)

And it‘a a hideously nasty outdated Java server running it.

They let us know today that they’re taking an entire day of downtime next week for system upgrades. Doing it on a weekday, too. Surprising. Usually you do that on the weekend.

 

[luvflyin]

It's not binary. My sister is an RN working in a hospital in Florida. She got infected by a coworker who came in while sick, and the hospital was providing substandard PPE. She's recovering, has no sense of smell or taste, and is now having cardiac issues, can't work and really shouldn't drive. She's likely to need surgery.

Her employer put her on a leave of absence, so she has no income and has to pay COBRA for her insurance. She's also dealing with a secondary lung issue that will take 18 months to go away if it does go away, it may not.

IMO I'd rather take precautions for the next six months and not chance what the virus might do, but you go ahead and take your chances.

It’s a moot point for me now. I got it, been sick since Mon the 9th. I didn’t get lax, it just happened. My sister, her husband, my wife and my 91 year old mother all have it. It sucks. What do you mean by “it’s not binary”?

 

[FormerHangie]

It’s a moot point for me now. I got it, been sick since Mon the 9th. I didn’t get lax, it just happened. My sister, her husband, my wife and my 91 year old mother all have it. It sucks. What do you mean by “it’s not binary”?

I was responding to your statement, "Yeah. I’m starting to think that way. Get it and be done. Reinfections seem to be rare. Not so sure about the dying thang tho." It gave me the impression you were thinking that when you develop a Covid-19 infection, you either get over it completely or it kills you. As we've seen, there are lots of people, like my sister, who have other issues that are most likely related to their Covid illness. My sister turned around to get her cell phone, and had an arrythmia so bad it dropped her to the ground and she was unconscious for a period of time. She had no cardiac issues prior to getting Covid, and Covid does have a history of causing heart issues, particularly arrhytmias.

 

[Matthew Rogers]

If everyone will take off the damn face diapers we can speed this up...


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You sir, give terrible advice.

 

[danhagan]

My sister is an RN working in a hospital in Florida. She got infected by a coworker who came in while sick, and the hospital was providing substandard PPE. She's recovering, has no sense of smell or taste, and is now having cardiac issues, can't work and really shouldn't drive. She's likely to need surgery.

I see a LOT of this in our imaging environment and we're not sure what the long term damage will be (both cardiac and lung).

Hope she recovers. Would be nice if there were another way for her to retain insurance coverage ... Cobra is usually twice as expensive. Worker's Compensation coverage for on the job infection is not yet available from what I hear ... hang in there